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Title: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 21, 2012, 01:32:00 PM
Hi Ladies
Just want to see if anyone has experience of Zopiclone and in particular withdrawal symptoms.
I was prescribed this several months ago but resisted taking it because I'm a big scardey cat when it comes to medications as I seem to be quite sensitive to drugs in general.
I eventually had to give in as prolonged lack of sleep was finally getting to me. Took 7.5mg for 3 weeks and cut down to half of that dose for a further 2 weeks. Decided to stop 3 nights ago and have been experiencing some symptoms - dizzy and feeling faint, pins and needles in hands,feet,face and scalp and a 'heavy head' with extreme fatigue.
I am hoping this is withdrawal of the sleeping tab because if not then what the heck is going on.
According to the literature it is only recommended for short term use (7 to 10) days but have only just found this out and can't really understand why my GP prescribed for a longer period of time as they are thought to be addictive. He gave me a refill of the prescription last week which I have not used.
Would appreciate anyone with experience of this drug sharing their experience.
Many thanks
Xxx
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: Dyan on September 21, 2012, 01:41:09 PM
Hi Anne B,
I was prescribed zopiclone 8 yrs ago when I had my breakdown.
I was taking 2 of whatever mg they were,cant remember now.
When I had to come off them it had to be gradual.
2 then 1 & half for a week,1 for another week and then half for the last week.
I don't think I experienced any side effects doing it this way.
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 21, 2012, 01:45:24 PM
Thanks Dyan
As I said its maybe just that I've stopped quite suddenly and I do seem to be a wee sensitive soul as far as medications go !
Xx
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: purplenanny on September 21, 2012, 02:15:15 PM
Hi Anne
I was prescribed these when hubby went into hospital. I was told several times they are addictive and only ever given a 2 week prescription. Getting a repeat proved very difficult and I was heavily questioned each time

I took 1 x 7.5mg each night and found them to be great. I never used them for more than 6 days, with a few days break in between. I  found it difficult to sleep without them and really just wanted to keep taking them. But, I also felt very low and tearful when I stopped and a bit muzzy headed. But, I put this down to my situation rather than the pills - who knows

I did feel I had become addicted and not able to manage without them, so have resisted taking them again.

I saw my gp about another matter recently and he asked if I had stopped taking them. He scared me actually and said they were not good to take longterm and I must manage without .

I am currently taking VitD3 high dose and I think this has helped my mood and sleeping.

Very surprising you were not warned of the addiction side.

Hope this helps

PN x x
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 21, 2012, 02:28:30 PM
Thanks Purplenanny,
I was a bit annoyed that I wasn't warned of their addictive nature and I was just handed the repeat prescription along with my HRT one last week without question.
Still trying to figure out if my symptoms are withdrawal or hormone related but it does seem a bit of a coincidence that they appeared quite soon after stopping the sleepy tabs.
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: Joyce on September 21, 2012, 04:24:36 PM
I was warned and GP was only prepared to give me a 2 week supply due to their addictive nature.  After the first week, I used one of those pill cutters to cut in half and weaned myself off that way.  Mind you still have sleep problems.
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 21, 2012, 04:32:41 PM
I'm just so surprised at my GP because usually fantastic and on the ball.
Well I know now and won't be taking those again.
Have managed to get to sleep without them. Takes a while and do wake up a few times but at least I haven't actually become totally dependent on them.
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: purplenanny on September 21, 2012, 04:50:48 PM
Same here Anne, unfortunately they gave me such a great night sleep it was difficult to stop.

I also had other 'issues' going on so like you feel it is difficult to know what feeling relates to what

Probably best we don't take any more

Purplenanny x x
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 21, 2012, 06:21:58 PM
Definitely Purplenanny. No more of these wee tabs for me. Am going to destroy what's left before I'm tempted because like you say they do give you a good sleep but at what cost long term?
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: Smokey on September 22, 2012, 11:24:33 AM
Anne B you poor thing, they soun awful side effects I hope they stop soon.
I'm currently reducing my medication for tension heads and silent migraine, I'm taking Nortriptyline at night was on 75mg and reduced to 65mg and reducing 5mg every two weeks not sure if this is the correct way or not, I wanted to come off them as someone else mentioned they tried them and they made them fall over more than usual and it made me think perhaps they could be the cause of my unsteady feeling I get sometimes and the only way I'll know is if I stop taking them.
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: CLKD on September 22, 2012, 04:16:15 PM
Sounds typical of stopping a drug which has given some relief.  I get those feelings when I miss a Beta-blocka  ::) .... any improvement today?
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 22, 2012, 07:15:54 PM
No difference today CLKD.
Really dizzy and sore head.
Trying to think if it is the withdrawal or my HRT but I have been on my HRT gel for 6 weeks now and haven't felt this bad.
If it is the withdrawal of sleeping tabs then I would hope the effects would disappear soon. Suppose time will tell.
Went out for a walk and thought I was going to keel over. Now that would have been embarrassing!
Xx
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: purplenanny on September 22, 2012, 08:04:19 PM
I hope you feel better tomorrow Anne. If it is the pills, they will be out of your system soon I am sure

Purplenanny x x
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 22, 2012, 08:15:43 PM
Thanks Purplenanny
Have done the wrong thing and Googled withdrawal of Zopiclone and frightened the life out of myself. Should know better than to Google!
Xx
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: purplenanny on September 22, 2012, 08:19:49 PM
Oh crikey Anne, not a good idea! Not that I can talk - I am always doing that! You will be okay, it will just need time. Try not to worry too much as that won't help the way you are feeling (easy to say, I know!)
PN x x
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 22, 2012, 09:41:47 PM
Thanks Purplenanny.
Googling is definitely bad for your health!
X
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: CLKD on September 23, 2012, 10:54:31 AM
So share what you read perhaps?

My head is woozy still.  Hung-over feelings  >:( - slightly queasy  :-\
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 23, 2012, 11:21:12 AM
CLKD
Googled withdrawal symptoms of Zopiclone and some articles said could experience withdrawal after just a week to 10 days use. Max you should be on it is 4 weeks. Symptoms such as sweating, dizziness, anxiety,headaches,palpitations, chills, drunk feeling,irritability,rebound insomnia,visual distortion - all of which I have. Many more symptoms reported which thankfully I don't have.
I had been on them for around 6 weeks.

Sounds as if you've been on them as well with your symptoms!!
Hope you feel better soon.

From another woozy headed person.  Xxxx
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: CLKD on September 23, 2012, 02:06:37 PM
Not that particular medication and comparing mine with yours, well the 'possibilities' are the same  ::)

Still woozy .......... maybe it's the nerve in the back of my neck which is a little trapped  :-\ so must do some gentle stretching
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 23, 2012, 02:15:03 PM
I'm away to do my back and leg stretches. Have to do 15mins 3 x per day.
Agony but necessary.
Happy stretching CLKD.
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: CLKD on September 23, 2012, 09:08:37 PM
Little steps  ;)
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 23, 2012, 09:47:56 PM
Literally little steps CLKD!
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: CLKD on September 24, 2012, 04:03:36 PM
Slept better and not as woozy today.  Had a deep bubble bath last evening which I am sure helped relax me.
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 24, 2012, 04:24:28 PM
That's great CLKD. Another bubble bath tonight?
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: CLKD on September 24, 2012, 06:48:54 PM
Yep, with cuppa and Very Good Book .....

How areyou today?
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 24, 2012, 08:51:44 PM
Hi CLKD
Feeling weird today but what's new?
Enjoy your bath, book and cuppa.
X
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: CLKD on September 25, 2012, 08:29:28 AM
Queasy again this morning  >:( waiting for my toast to filter through ..........
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 25, 2012, 09:16:05 AM
Same here but cornflakes should kick in soon.
At least managing to get some sleep without Zopiclone. Not great but better than none.
X
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: CLKD on September 25, 2012, 09:18:24 AM
Try not to think as you wake in the night that you've had all the sleep you are going to get.  Choose a nice thing you did/saw/said in the day and mull.  Let your thoughts drift ........ easier said than done I know  ::) .......... when I can't sleep I turn on the radio to soft music and pretend I'm skating  ::) ....... gently, softly across the ice .......
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 25, 2012, 09:42:16 AM
Trouble is I have a snoring partner beside me. Think I'll build him a kennel outside. Would probably still hear him!
X
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: Ziggy on September 25, 2012, 10:02:04 AM
I was prescribed Zoplicone for 10 days. It had no effect on me what so ever, made no difference to my sleeping and  I had no side effects when I stopped taking it.
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: CLKD on September 25, 2012, 10:19:35 AM
It took 3 months for me to withdraw from one medication, can't remember which, by gradually tapering.  I was quite ill then though so probably noticed the side effects more.
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: purplenanny on September 25, 2012, 12:43:26 PM
I am sad to say I took a Zopiclone tablet last night. I have tried for several nights now not to go back to it, but I am miserable and tired. Last night I felt I wanted to take half a dozen the way I was feeling. It is a shame as I have managed for several weeks without it

I will try not to take one this night, but my mood is so very low.

Purplenanny x x
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 25, 2012, 12:51:53 PM
Purplenanny
Sorry you are struggling but taking a sleeping tab here and there isn't going to do you any harm. My doc said you can take 3 or 4 nights running then have a break for a few nights in the week and you are less likely to become dependent on them. Needs must for your sanity, I know I've been there and sometimes still am.
I haven't taken any for a week now and manage to get off to sleep but am awake about 3 hours later then toss and turn till about 6 am.
If I felt I had to take occasionally in an emergency then I would.
Take care and don't worry about taking them when you have to.
Xx
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: Rowan on September 25, 2012, 01:25:14 PM
I agree with what Anne B has said, lack of sleep is far worse for your health then the occasional zopiclone.
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: CLKD on September 25, 2012, 02:23:37 PM
Lack of sleep is used as a torture method so grabbing a few consecutive nights is OK!  Give yourself 3-4 nights good quality sleep then take a break from the medication.  If then you are awake you will know that you've had some sleep and that if you have problems in a few nights hence, you can take medication.  The thing is to take it early enough in the evening a) not to fall asleep too soon but b) not to wake hung over  ::)
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: JJ on September 25, 2012, 02:40:57 PM
If you feel you need it Purplenanny - take it, we get no medals for not taking prescribed meds  ;)
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: purplenanny on September 26, 2012, 10:01:52 PM
Thank you ladies, I am just so scared of getting hooked agin but I really need to sleep. I hate my life at the moment and wish I could see a light at the end of this very long tunnel, I have cried all day today for my lost love. I wish he would come back to me. They say it will happen, but I am not convinced
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: Bette on September 27, 2012, 07:04:13 AM
 :hug: PN.
He will be back, try to believe that.  :foryou:
Bette x
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: CLKD on September 27, 2012, 07:56:06 AM
Sorry PN that you have problems ......... crying can ease the turmoil and is Nature's way ........
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: Dyan on September 27, 2012, 08:35:19 AM
Hi Purplenanny,
Please,please stay positive in thinking that one day you WILL get your husband back.
My husband thought I'd gone forever but my psychiatrist told him," I'll get your wife back".
It took longer than we both expected,but I came back!
I know it's hard but try and be positive for your husband but at the same time he has to have a positive attitude too.
Easier said than done when you are where he is.
However bad I felt I kept telling myself,"you'll get there,you'll get there"
At times I did think that it would never end but I quickly turned it around.
Perhaps the CBT came into it then.

It is very hard for the person who is looking on and my husband will admit he went through a difficult time too seeing me each day struggling but with his love,optimism and belief in the help I was getting we made it!

 :hug: for you both at this difficult time.

Love Dyan X
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: Trey on September 27, 2012, 08:43:45 AM
I am re- addicted to Valium and will use the UK Ashton method to withdraw as did before.  But right now sleep and sanity trump addiction.  At least I don't become tolerant and don't need increasing doses so easier to get off. The Ashton method will prevent withdrawal or did for me.  I do notice my short term memory improves when off.  Right now I don't care about that.  In fact would like to let a lot of short term stuff go by the wayside.

PN, I had a mini breakdown years ago and came all the way back, and came back stronger.  I say mini, but it was terrifying.
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: Dyan on September 27, 2012, 08:45:22 AM
Hi Trey :hug:
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: Rowan on September 27, 2012, 10:01:46 AM
Trey I googled UK Ashton Method  http://www.benzosupport.org/index.htm - what an informative site! thank you for posting it.

I noticed that they suggest the Lindon Method which is also excellent.

A must for the "favourites" I think.
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: purplenanny on September 27, 2012, 10:09:36 AM
Thank you for caring so much ladies, your support is incredible. I am normally such a positive person but hubby's illness is draining me.
I took another pill last night so I will now try to have a few nights without
Purplenanny x x
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: CLKD on September 27, 2012, 02:50:39 PM
PN - what support are you getting from the mental health team? 
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: Trey on September 27, 2012, 03:13:02 PM
PN, I'm worried about you.  I see the similar signs of my mental anguish caring for Don.  I think CLKD asked an important question about what help might be available to you.  I knew no one and could not leave my new home so I just somehow got through it, but I hope maybe you have someone to call to visit with your husband if necessary so you ca get to an appt. for yourself.

I hate to hear your feeling of guilt taking the sleeping pill.  Your doctor should have been more specific, but those on this great forum, who have taken it, may be more helpful if your doc can't be more specific for your needs.  I use Valium because instead of a two hour half life, it has up to a 200 hour half life so I don't go up and down as much - MY guess only here.

None of us can prescribe, but I think a mental health person might be more helpful in finding what temporary medication would best suit you.

Your strain is in some ways worse than mine in that mine had a time limit.  Mine was worse in that there was no hope.  You must protect yourself more than you are.  We can only last so long.  Please get some support of a professional type. I think the NHS does so much better than US on this.

My heart is with you.
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: Sleepless D on September 27, 2012, 05:49:31 PM
Hi

So sorry to hear what a difficult time you are having.

I had terrible insomnia after my hyst and still struggle sometimes with sleep. I have used zopliclone and have also worried myself witless about taking it.

My doc told me it is perfectly safe to take 3 x a week at 3.75 mg. On that you will not get any physical dependence.

Now I have taken more than that on occasions over a few weeks when things
got tough and just reduced gradually when I knew I could do without. I cut a 3.75 mg tab in half and then gradually reduced the number of days I took it. I now use it when I really need it.

If you need it for a while you need it. Try to keep your dose low and if you take it continuously for a few weeks taper off slowly.

Take care,

Sleepless D x
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: CLKD on September 27, 2012, 09:20:58 PM
Once we have good quality sleep we can function better and our thought patterns are more logical.  It's better to take 3/4 nights and get sleep rather than laying awake waiting to go to sleep  ::)  .......... and if you tend to wake, have something already to hand, i.e. biscuit and chocolate milk, a light hearted book: are you warm enough/too hot?  I find in the early hours I wake due to being cold so switch on the electric blanket
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: purplenanny on September 27, 2012, 09:41:00 PM
Thank you for your good advice re the pills, I now feel more comfortable taking the tablet, just for a few nights sleep to give me the strength to help hubby. Everything seems so much worse when I am tired and I can't motivate myself, let alone him. I suppose I just have this fear of being addicted again and becoming like a zombie


PN x x



Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 27, 2012, 10:36:15 PM
You won't be addicted again Purplenanny. Just use responsibly and you'll be ok. After me saying I would never take one again well I have just taken a half tonight because after a particularly bad and emotional day I feel a bit of a sleep will be beneficial.
I may even take for the next 2 or 3 nights depending on my physical and mental state but I know now not to take them continuously long term.

Don't worry and have a good sleep
Xx
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: purplenanny on September 27, 2012, 10:47:30 PM
Thanks AnneB, you have a good sleep also and I hope tomorrow is a better day for you
PN x x
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 28, 2012, 08:46:36 AM
Purplenanny how are you today? Hope the sleepy tab gave you a rest.
I slept ok but must admit always have a wee bit of a hangover effect and a dry mouth but can put up with it for the sake of a bit rest. Xxx
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: purplenanny on September 28, 2012, 11:06:53 AM
Hi Anne
I slept very well ( 1 tablet) but found it difficult to wake up thoroughly this morning. Have been a bit slow and yes, dry mouth, hangover type feeling - bit muzzy headed. I woke at 7am but drifted back off and then had a bad dream.

I will try tonight without a tablet.

Hope you have a good day. PN x x
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: EAB on September 28, 2012, 11:33:17 AM
Purplenanny
Take each day as it comes. Don't worry if you have to take another tonight.
From my experience if I haven't fallen asleep within half an hour then better to take the tablet at that point rather than lie awake for hours then it gets too late to take one.
Xxx
Title: Re: Zopiclone
Post by: CLKD on September 28, 2012, 06:38:47 PM
Or take it earlier?