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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Vicky81 on May 11, 2024, 07:02:53 AM

Title: Any idea what's best time to apply gel for morning anxiety?
Post by: Vicky81 on May 11, 2024, 07:02:53 AM
Hi so I'm thinking of going to the gel because I've got bad anxiety....particularly upon waking.

Anyone know the best time to apply the gel for this symptom? Xx
Title: Re: Any idea what's best time to apply gel for morning anxiety?
Post by: joziel on May 11, 2024, 04:29:19 PM
It's best to apply gel AM and PM to keep levels as even as possible. So split your dose between AM and PM.

(I do 5 pumps AM and another 5 PM.)
Title: Re: Any idea what's best time to apply gel for morning anxiety?
Post by: Dotty on May 12, 2024, 06:28:39 AM
I use 4 pumps every morning. Once the gel has reached a level that stops your symptoms then you just keep topping it up every morning. Try and do it it at roughly the same time.
Title: Re: Any idea what's best time to apply gel for morning anxiety?
Post by: Penguin on May 12, 2024, 06:58:57 AM
I used to do it as soon as I woke up in the morning as I wake really early, then go back to bed while it dries!
Although I was only on one pump, of you're on loads you may have to stagger the dose as you'll run out of limbs!
Title: Re: Any idea what's best time to apply gel for morning anxiety?
Post by: Nas on May 12, 2024, 07:36:40 AM
I used to apply in the morning after my shower. But sometimes I’d give myself a mid afternoon “ top up”.
Title: Re: Any idea what's best time to apply gel for morning anxiety?
Post by: Hurdity on May 12, 2024, 09:42:40 AM
It's best to apply gel AM and PM to keep levels as even as possible. So split your dose between AM and PM.

(I do 5 pumps AM and another 5 PM.)

I thought this is no longer advised (due to equilibrium reached between skin reservoir and concentration in blood)? I did read somewhere though can't remember where?

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Any idea what's best time to apply gel for morning anxiety?
Post by: Gnatty on May 12, 2024, 01:58:11 PM
Yes I think we are supposed to take dose all in one go.... Nevertheless I feel better doing a little top up at night time. Having tried it both ways this seems to suit me best. I guess we are all different and have to find our own path that works for us x
Title: Re: Any idea what's best time to apply gel for morning anxiety?
Post by: Vicky81 on May 12, 2024, 04:23:24 PM
Awww thanks all you're,all so kind xxxx
Title: Re: Any idea what's best time to apply gel for morning anxiety?
Post by: Vicky81 on May 14, 2024, 10:26:07 AM
It's best to apply gel AM and PM to keep levels as even as possible. So split your dose between AM and PM.

(I do 5 pumps AM and another 5 PM.)

So you're on 10 pumps?
Title: Re: Any idea what's best time to apply gel for morning anxiety?
Post by: joziel on May 14, 2024, 11:17:23 AM
Correct. Which gets my serum estradiol to around 430pmol.

The problem is I need to trial getting it higher, to around 600pmol, to see if that helps my night time symptoms more. And I can't use more gel, that would be ridiculous. So at some point I'm going to need to switch products. I think I can do 11 pumps of gel, but any more is going to be v hard...
Title: Re: Any idea what's best time to apply gel for morning anxiety?
Post by: Vicky81 on May 15, 2024, 07:24:46 AM
Ahh ok joziel was just interested hun....I hope it helps you xxx
Title: Re: Any idea what's best time to apply gel for morning anxiety?
Post by: Turkish delight on May 15, 2024, 01:11:36 PM
It's best to apply gel AM and PM to keep levels as even as possible. So split your dose between AM and PM.

(I do 5 pumps AM and another 5 PM.)

I thought this is no longer advised (due to equilibrium reached between skin reservoir and concentration in blood)? I did read somewhere though can't remember where?

Hurdity x

I do AM and PM. Have I missed something in the guidelines?
What is the issue with splitting the dose, can someone please elaborate?

TD
Title: Re: Any idea what's best time to apply gel for morning anxiety?
Post by: joziel on May 19, 2024, 10:01:08 AM
My Newson drs tell me to split the dose, I wouldn't worry.
Title: Re: Any idea what's best time to apply gel for morning anxiety?
Post by: Kathleen on May 19, 2024, 01:29:01 PM
Hello ladies

joziel. -  A few years ago my Newson Health doctor suggested that I use six pumps of gel  and a follow up blood test showed that my Oestradiol levels were 600. At that time I was splitting the dose between morning and bedtime.

 I am quite a small person and the amount of gel felt too much so I was switched to three Sandrena gel 1 mg sachets. The gel in the sachets is much less runny and dries well. 

You may find that Sandrena sachets are a suitable alternative to Oestrogel pumps.

I hope this helps and take care.

K.
Title: Re: Any idea what's best time to apply gel for morning anxiety?
Post by: joziel on May 19, 2024, 07:25:16 PM
Yes, it's on the list for the next thing to try.

600 is quite a good dose for many women, could be too high for some. But many need to be 450-600pmol and feel best there.

It's a lot of gel. Is Sandrena sticky when dry? I mean, if you put trousers on after it's dried, do they kind of cling to where it is....?