Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => Postmenopause => Topic started by: Brownie on May 10, 2024, 09:22:14 AM
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Hi ladies
Hope this isn't a stupid question but does anyone find that if they have inserted their vaginal estrogen before bed + they don't get a good sleep the estrogen doesn't seem to dissolve/act as well ?
I have been taking amitriptyline for interstitial cystitis which also helps me sleep but find it I don't get a good sleep I feel sore/dry/irritated the next day.
Any comments would be appreciated Xx
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No questions are silly here!
How often are you inserting the Estriol?
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I also meant to add that it also seems to make me want to pee more the next day.
I also usually needing the cream nighty at the moment. Additionally I used vagifem in the past but irritated me.
I use the 0.01 estriol (old gynest )
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I was prescribed GYNEST pessaries initially, now I have 'ovestin' which is via an applicator. Occasionally the next morning I felt the need2P which eased during the day. Such a nuisance!
How high are you able to insert the product? Nightly may be necessary for several months until symptoms ease. R U up and down in the night when U can't sleep?
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Generally the amitriptyline keeps me asleep so I'm not up however I was up once at the loo last night but again I find the cream seems to work better if I've not used the toilet during the night if that makes sense ?
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Sorry, also wanted to add (sorry if TMI) that the next morning I can see all the cream just sitting there if you know what I mean !!!!
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What about using it in the morning instead of night. No harm in trying but would suggest a panty liner would be needed. It really is all about experimenting until you find the solution to this pain in the bum condition!!
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Have never tried it in the morning before.
It's the large applicator so not sure would it work/absorb as well ?
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It shouldn't make any difference to how effective it is using morning or night, as I said its all about experimenting with what we are given.
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It mayB the residue of the product rather than the active ingredient. With 'ovestin' I have no problems, although I've been using VA treatment for over 5 years so my vaginal walls are well plumped up = good absorption.
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Thanks for the advice/comments ladies. Things seem to go well then one bad night seems to make everything worse again. I will keep with the every night meantime + 🙏 I can get a better sleep tonight +things improve tomorrow.
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Would it be worth asking to try Estriol 0.1% cream rather than the 0.01% that you are using.
After the 2 week initial load you may find that twice a week which is the initial recommended follow up is enough for you.
I think when you have not had a lot of sleep it just heightens things that are happening & you are trying to cope with in your body.
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I have been using the 0.01 for some time now + most of the time 🤞 not had any probs + I like it. Just seems less effective when I've not slept well or had to get up to the loo through the night.
Dont feel great now but 🙏 get a better sleep tonight +feel somewhat better tomorrow 🙏🤞
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Sorry, also wanted to add (sorry if TMI) that the next morning I can see all the cream just sitting there if you know what I mean !!!!
Yes I am the same .. in the morning once I have did a pee pee the residue is in the pan too but eh what goes up... some can come down. Cream still seems to work - so don't worry about it x
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I'm not really worried, just been sore/uncomfortable today as I said never slept last night + feel cream not worked as it should.
🤞 feel better tomorrow 🙏