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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: VioletAquarius on February 07, 2024, 11:15:15 PM

Title: UTI prevention and local/vaginal estrogen
Post by: VioletAquarius on February 07, 2024, 11:15:15 PM

Just thought I'd post this link in case it helps anyone.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/dec/17/millions-of-women-are-suffering-who-dont-have-to-why-its-time-to-end-the-misery-of-utis?fbclid=IwAR3i77_8AxbjB-PR2dSOtznVKdirE0bpuTeYMBSWL9utbUmZ5a5HV1_Miek

Title: Re: UTI prevention and local/vaginal estrogen
Post by: sfreesto on February 08, 2024, 05:44:48 AM

Thank you, nice article. I followed the link to look up the urological society guidelines and found the part on probiotics. It looks like there is some positive evidence for some lactobacillus probiotics with L. rhamnosus GR-1, L. reuteri B-54, L. reuteri RC-14, L. casei shirota, and L. crispatus CTV-05 strains, so I’m going to see if I can find them to try out. X

Title: Re: UTI prevention and local/vaginal estrogen
Post by: Minusminnie on February 08, 2024, 08:44:03 AM

Optibac for women contain two of those strains.

Title: Re: UTI prevention and local/vaginal estrogen
Post by: Minusminnie on February 08, 2024, 09:03:03 AM

Quote from: VioletAquarius on February 07, 2024, 11:15:15 PM

Just thought I'd post this link in case it helps anyone.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/dec/17/millions-of-women-are-suffering-who-dont-have-to-why-its-time-to-end-the-misery-of-utis?fbclid=IwAR3i77_8AxbjB-PR2dSOtznVKdirE0bpuTeYMBSWL9utbUmZ5a5HV1_Miek

Thanks for the link.  I watched this podcast ? between Louise Newson and Ashley Winter a while back. If i remember rightly Ashley Winter changed career from engineering.

https://www.drlouisenewson.co.uk/233-gaslighting-of-genitourinary-symptoms-of-the-menopause/

Title: Re: UTI prevention and local/vaginal estrogen
Post by: VioletAquarius on February 08, 2024, 10:31:48 PM

Quote from: sfreesto on February 08, 2024, 05:44:48 AM

Thank you, nice article. I followed the link to look up the urological society guidelines and found the part on probiotics. It looks like there is some positive evidence for some lactobacillus probiotics with L. rhamnosus GR-1, L. reuteri B-54, L. reuteri RC-14, L. casei shirota, and L. crispatus CTV-05 strains, so I’m going to see if I can find them to try out. X

All that confuses me, I don't understand it :-\ , if you find anything that will help prevent utis please can you post back?

Title: Re: UTI prevention and local/vaginal estrogen
Post by: VioletAquarius on February 08, 2024, 10:34:02 PM

Quote from: Minusminnie on February 08, 2024, 08:44:03 AM

Optibac for women contain two of those strains.

Do you use this?  Has it helped stop utis?

Title: Re: UTI prevention and local/vaginal estrogen
Post by: VioletAquarius on February 08, 2024, 10:35:49 PM

Quote from: Minusminnie

https://www.drlouisenewson.co.uk/233-gaslighting-of-genitourinary-symptoms-of-the-menopause/
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I'll listen to that, thanks

Title: Re: UTI prevention and local/vaginal estrogen
Post by: Minusminnie on February 09, 2024, 08:06:27 AM

Quote from: VioletAquarius on February 08, 2024, 10:34:02 PM

Quote from: Minusminnie on February 08, 2024, 08:44:03 AM

Optibac for women contain two of those strains.

Do you use this?  Has it helped stop utis?

I have been taking the optibac for women for several months now. I can’t say whether it has stopped utis as I haven’t had a uti before to test if it is stopping them.

I am just taking them for vaginal
health really as I am using localised hrt.

Hope someone else will answer too.

Title: Re: UTI prevention and local/vaginal estrogen
Post by: VioletAquarius on February 09, 2024, 11:40:15 PM

Okay, no worries, thank you.

What does it do in regards to vaginal health?as I take localised hrt too (vagifem).

Title: Re: UTI prevention and local/vaginal estrogen
Post by: Minusminnie on February 10, 2024, 02:35:40 AM

If you look up the lactobacillus strains that sfreesto has posted further up it will give you some information on benefits of good gut bacteria.

Only got my phone at moment so can’t post any link.

Title: Re: UTI prevention and local/vaginal estrogen
Post by: VioletAquarius on February 10, 2024, 11:00:19 PM

Thank you, I'll see what I can find.