Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: Dierdre on February 03, 2024, 10:08:20 AM
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Woke up this morning, turned over and opened my eyes to the room going round. It only lasted a few seconds and no other symptoms other than a cold might be coming on. Is this anything to worry about? Was scary when it happened.
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It's awful. When I used to suffer I would know B4 I opened my eyes in the morning that the condition was present >:(. I dared not move until the risk of nausea went. It was always after a cold ........... there is medication to stop any nausea, Stugeron I think was prescribed 4 me.
Take it steady!! It should ease once you are upright, if you dare to get out of bed. Usually it's an inner ear problem, does your nose feel blocked or your ears?
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I get this a lot too,it IS scary,sometimes I don't even need to turn my head,it just happens,it runs in my family though but I doubt it's much to worry about but do speak to your Dr,like clkd I take stugeron which you can buy over the counter but do check first :)
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I have earache this morning so it could be inner ear. Also my jaw hurt and noticed my tinnitus today so could have been grinding my teeth during the night which inflames that area. I didn't feel nauseous and was ok when I got up. Never happened before so I'll see if it happens again. It was so weird, I thought I was dreaming at first then realised I was awake and the room was rotating. Felt anxious today now in case it happened when I was driving or out walking. Does it just happen in the morning on waking?
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It can be crystals in the ear canal and they can force the fluid to go the wrong way BUT it could be plain old vertigo,I have meniers,that's the reason for mine
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Mine usually attacked me as I opened my eyes in the morning.
1 New Year's Eve however, after a 10 day of very heavy cold/cough, I got up to change the TV channel. WHOOSH - the on-call GP wouldn't believe that I hadn't been drinking, >:( DH had to drive 7 miles to get medication. I spent the night laying on a thick sleeping bag on the bathroom floor with a cat curled in the small of my back, purring gently. I hardly dared to move :-\
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Just woke up at 3.30am and turned my head to the right and it's spinning again, turn to the left and it stops. It's effecting my vision too, had to put on glasses to type, I need reading glasses but can still see without but now it's blurry without them. Also had an headache over my right eye brow last night. Think it's a trip to the doctors on Monday morning.
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Do you suffer from migraine? You can have vertigo related to migraine. It could be BPPV which can also cause blurred vision. Let us know how you get on. If it's anything like where I live then the first hurdle will be actually getting an appointment!
Taz x
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Make an appt anyway. If you can't see your GP then mayB make an appt with an audiologist or optician. Let us know how you get on. Did a cold develop yet?
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Don't suffer from migraines Taz2. I've definately got something going on in my right ear though, tinnitus is noticeable again and can feel fluid in my eardrum, kind of feel it trickle when I move my head.
I did the Epley Manoeuvre this morning that I found on Youtube. So far so good and also massaged the Eustachian tubes. Headache has gone and vision better than in the night.
I'll see how it is tomorrow, like you say it's if you can get an appointment.
Cold not developed CKLD or I've fought it off. Probably viral and attacked my inner ear causing fluid etc.
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That sounds like the fluid needs to go in the right direction,those exercises are apparently great,the Dr told me about them but said they might make it worse before it got better,so I chickened out and didn't do them lol well done for trying them 🥇
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Oh that's no fun. I think the doc definitely needs to see you and actually look in your ear in case it is blocked. I had similar when in Australia and had to put drops in my ears for three days and then have ear syringed. It's all so close to the optic nerve too in terms of getting irritated. Make sure you tell them about your vision.
You mentioned feeling like you had a cold coming on, did it end up developing? For me ear stuff is par for the course with a cold as it all gets inflamed and swollen inside.
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No, cold didn't developed but think it might just be a virus in my inner ear. Vision ok now, was blurry after the vertigo in the night. Will see how it is tomorrow, could take a while for an appointment, then it'll be a phone consultation anyway. If it's viral it should improve in a few days.
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When I need to see a GP I go to the desk and ask. Not a problem here. The question is whether the appt is urgent or am I able to wait 2-3 weeks.
If U can't see an GP/Nurse Practitioner face2face then book with an audiologist.
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That sounds like the fluid needs to go in the right direction,those exercises are apparently great,the Dr told me about them but said they might make it worse before it got better,so I chickened out and didn't do them lol well done for trying them 🥇
Definately need to try this Epley Manoeuvre jaypo, I've not had another attack of vertigo since doing it yesterday morning. Slept ok and no spinning room this morning. My ear is still not 100% and tinnitus still there but better than before so thinking viral. Apparently vertigo is a new covid symptom, didn't realise that but don't have any tests left and feeling a lot better now.
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I think that vertigo 'hits' almost immediately a virus attacks the inner ear. We can't go on blaming everything on Covid other than it is an evolving virus.
My ears ring all the time, I'm surprised sometimes that DH can't hear them :-\ ::)
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Did it make you very dizzy doing it Dierdre?
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No not at all. Just sat up and turned head right, laid down with my head hanging off the back of the pillow a bit for 30 seconds then turned left for 30 sec then completely round into the pillow for 30 secs then sat up. Did it again to make sure I'd done it right.
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You see if I did that,the room would spin like crazy but I know it does help,my Dr had only good things to say about it,I'd just end up a crumpled heap on the floor ;D
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It spun when facing right but stopped when facing left, so rights the bad side and the crystals need to move back to the left. Start left side if thats bad. Does it help if you close your eyes while doing it?
You could try doing it when not having an attack, it might still move them back.
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I think that vertigo 'hits' almost immediately a virus attacks the inner ear. We can't go on blaming everything on Covid other than it is an evolving virus.
My ears ring all the time, I'm surprised sometimes that DH can't hear them :-\ ::)
I've had lots of ear infections before in my life including inner ear but never had vertigo with them before. I've got tinitus too, covid left me with that the first time I had it, but it wasn't very noticeable anymore and I'd got used to it. I'm hoping it settles back down again.
I'll need to add vertigo to my list of new ailments in my old age ;D
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If it happens again,do try stugeron (make sure you can have them first) and take 2 tabs 3 times daily,that's the dose for vertigo,they really help,just after a day
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Thanks, I'll remember if it happens again.
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Well it's been a week and no more vertigo but still suffering with worsened tinnitis. Also my right jaw, outer ear and side of face (temple area) feel achy. Inner ear still feels like there's fluid in there but not painful and no temperature. Back of my neck has been really stiff and creaking when I move since we've had all this rain, think that's old age though. Still taking ibuprofen which helps. Wondering if my teeth clencing and grinding at night is to blame. Going to my reflexologist tomorrow as doctors don't deal with earache etc you have to go to the chemist.
We have a surgery website now with Health A-Z, you type in your ailments and it gives intructions who you need to see, if anyone.
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That's quite useful Dierdre, if 1 don't get fobbed off ::)
My Paternal Grandad could 4cast rain 3-4 days B4 it arrived due to pains in his bones.
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I'm getting to know when it's going to rain now with the aching neck.
Went to the chemist with my earache this afternoon as instructed by the surgery website and was told because of my age I'd have to go to the doctor. No mention of age on the website so yes, fobbed off and now instead of me making an appointment today I've got to wait until Monday!
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Hoping for you that someone at the docs doesn’t then say you should be going to the chemists.
I ready myself for anything like that nowadays when it seems little can just be straightforward.
Hope also that you will feel better soon.
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Been to my reflexologist this morning and she did her magic, feeling better already, not so anxious which has helped my tinnitus.
If I have to go to the doctors now will be pointing out age should be a factor on their ear information. Hopefully wont be going now.
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Good news Dierdre,long May it continue :)
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Hi Dierdre!
I know that feeling. I suffer from episodes of benign paroxysmal positional vertigo.
"BPPV occurs when tiny calcium crystals called otoconia come loose from their normal location on the utricle, a sensory organ in the inner ear.
If the crystals become detached, they can flow freely in the fluid-filled spaces of the inner ear, including the semicircular canals (SCC) that sense the rotation of the head. Otoconia will occasionally drift into one of the SCCs, usually the posterior SCC given its orientation relative to gravity at the lowest part of the inner ear.
The otoconia will not cause a problem when located in an SCC until the person’s head changes position, such as when looking up or down, going from lying to seated or lying to seated in bed, or when rolling over in bed. The otoconia move to the lowest part of the canal, which causes the fluid to flow within the SCC, stimulating the balance (eighth cranial) nerve and causing vertigo and jumping eyes (nystagmus)."
If the Epley maneuver relieves your symptoms, this could be the cause of your vertigo.
An alternative to the Epley maneuver is the Foster Half Somersault.
Foster Half Somersault Video
https://youtu.be/mQR6b7CAiqk?si=vvkqlzstjHwU91GW
Foster Half Somersault PDF
https://dizziness-and-balance.com/BPPV/Foster.pdf
Other exercises for vertigo relief:
https://www.healthline.com/health/exercises-for-vertigo
I had my first episode of BPPV in peri. Estrogen deficiency can cause deficits in otoconia maintenance. Every episode has been been triggered by turning my head while getting out of bed. It's a terrible way to start the day. An episode of BPPV was a clue that I wasn't absorbing transdermal estrogen. So far, I've not had an episode while on oral estrogen.
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Thanks for that information, I'm sure it will be interesting to other vertigo sufferers.
Thankfully my vertigo episode was short lived and probably caused by the ear infection, that has now gone but still got some inner ear fluid and tinnitis. I did the Eplley manoeuvre and haven't had vertigo since 🤞
Would a virus in the inner ear cause the calcium crystals to come loose or would the vertigo just be because of the virus and too much inner ear fluid?
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Hi Dierdre,
The purpose of the Epley maneuver is to reposition the crystals in a person's ear that are causing symptoms such as vertigo, dizziness and nausea. If the Epley maneuver resolved your vertigo, it suggests some of your ear crystals had gone astray. The timing may have been coincidental and the dizziness may simply have been due to the ear infection.
You'll know for sure if you have a recurrence. I hope you don't.
Glad you're feeling better.
Edited to add that, yes, BPPV can be triggered by an ear infection, viral infection, head injury, keeping the head in the same position for a long time, such as in the dentist chair, etc.
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Thanks Ana21, 🤞 not had anymore vertigo so must have been the ear problem, think it was viral. Tinitus still there but I had that before, it's just more noticable again but I think all the fluid has not all gone yet.