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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Katherine on December 18, 2023, 09:50:05 PM
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Hi ladies,
I’ve started on testosterone (testogel) about a week ago, a baked bean sized amount once a day on my inner wrist as advised by my gp. So far so good except I’ve noticed my deodorant doesn’t appear to be working any more, I’ve noticed body odour in my armpits halfway through the day despite not changing deodorant or doing anything else differently. Has anyone else experienced this? I use deodorant which usually works for me, not antiperspirant. I really could do without another thing to worry about so if anyone can help I would be most grateful.
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Many years ago I began a thread 'Oh errrrr ' because. my body odour had altered though no one in the shop queue backed away and DH said that he didn't notice. I do though.
I find that keeping under arm hair to a minimum helps .........
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I can’t understand why it should give one a more masculine smell if it’s within the female range and supposed to restore one to pre meno levels of T. I don’t have armpit hair. I can see myself stopping the T because of this tbh. Maybe it’s because I’m in peri with regular periods, maybe I don’t really need it. It’s so confusing. Maybe I could try half a bean instead.
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Often the change in body odour happens when oestrogen levels drop and testosterone is more dominant I seem to remember. Is your HRT dose correct do you think?
Taz x
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Hi Taz
I upped my oestrogel to 3 pumps about 3.5 months ago and the difference has been amazing, I feel much better but felt something was still missing. I would love to go to the gym and go running but if I do I am exhausted and I don't get that after workout lift. Im 47 but can only really manage walks and a bit of swimming comfortably. I wonder how much testosterone levels drop by my age. I have stopped taking testosterone today as I just don't think it's for me at this time. I can always change back later. Even my cat noticed, she was writhing about in my armpit and attacking my feet in a frenzy last night. I would still welcome any thoughts or suggestions in case I change my mind later. Thanks ladies x
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You're only a week into using it, to put it bluntly. These are hormones. You don't know what the end result is going to be until several months have passed. Immediate side effects typically subside. Even if this IS caused by testosterone. Give your body a chance to figure out what to do with a suddenly new input of something before thinking about chopping and changing it... sheesh....
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Joziel are you aware of how rude you are coming across. Please don't respond to any of my posts again. People on here are here because they are struggling, they are posting about very sensitive issues and you should be responding with some sort of sensitivity. It's really sad that you need telling that as a grown adult.
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I felt that joziel's response was a bit harsh.
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Katherine, I think it will settle down. I seem to remember similar!
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Recently I started to realise my deodorant wasn’t working as well as it normally did. I’d always used the same one. I’ve changed brands which seems to have made a difference. Im not on testosterone. I started hrt about 3 months ago. Could it be a menopause issue not a testosterone treatment issue?
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Have a lookC at my thread 'Ohhhhh Errrr ' and I'm not on HRT.
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Hi ladies, thanks for your replies. I’m really in touch with my body and I just know it’s the testosterone. I think the thing that frightens me is that with T you can get side effects that are irreversible even if you stop taking it. So for my scent to change so drastically in just a few days was alarming. I was worried about what else might happen and whether that would be reversible. So with that level of anxiety about it, it wasn’t doable for me. I may try again in future when I am in a better place emotionally. I switched to an antiperspirant today which has helped s as little.
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Have a lookC at my thread 'Ohhhhh Errrr ' and I'm not on HRT.
Hi CLKD, I will, thanks.x
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Sorry, I did say 'to put it bluntly' and not going to blow smoke up ya bum. You can't tell anything about a hormone and how it will settle after one week. Presumably you have good reasons for wanting to try it in the first place because it's not exactly easy for most people to get, so to stop it after a week because you're worried you will somehow be irreversibly changed and because you have more BO is... well, I frankly struggle with the logic of that. (That's me being restrained, there.)
I wouldn't mind stinking to high heaven for the libido and ability to think straight and gain muscles and maintain a good body weight and so much else that testosterone gives me, but I wouldnt' assume any side effects I had after a week would still be there 3 months later either. That's not how hormones work.
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Hi Katherine,
I have been on testosterone for just over a year. I love it, but not going to lie, I did quickly notice I had BO. Not pleasant, but I do think a lot of it was down to me having virtually no BO since my 40s. I think it returned me to my prime! I now have to use a strong deodorant like 'Mitchum' to prevent any risk of embarrassment. (I'm pretty self conscious). The only other negative was greasier skin occasional spots. But again, a change to skin care dealt with this.
The positives are great (tbh not that much affect on libido) but I am mentally sharper, more resilient and can lift like a beast in the gym!
I would suggest trying for a bit longer, maybe on a smaller dose?
Good luck xx
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Hi Katherine,
I have been on testosterone for just over a year. I love it, but not going to lie, I did quickly notice I had BO. Not pleasant, but I do think a lot of it was down to me having virtually no BO since my 40s. I think it returned me to my prime! I now have to use a strong deodorant like 'Mitchum' to prevent any risk of embarrassment. (I'm pretty self conscious). The only other negative was greasier skin occasional spots. But again, a change to skin care dealt with this.
The positives are great (tbh not that much affect on libido) but I am mentally sharper, more resilient and can lift like a beast in the gym!
I would suggest trying for a bit longer, maybe on a smaller dose?
Good luck xx
Thank you so much for sharing. That is really useful. I think I got a bit of a shock as the changes resulting from oestrogen and progesterone were so gradual. The fact that a change in deodorant and skin care helped and that you have these positive effects is reassuring. I think I will just leave it a bit and maybe try again in future on a lower dose. X
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Sorry, I did say 'to put it bluntly' and not going to blow smoke up ya bum. You can't tell anything about a hormone and how it will settle after one week. Presumably you have good reasons for wanting to try it in the first place because it's not exactly easy for most people to get, so to stop it after a week because you're worried you will somehow be irreversibly changed and because you have more BO is... well, I frankly struggle with the logic of that. (That's me being restrained, there.)
I wouldn't mind stinking to high heaven for the libido and ability to think straight and gain muscles and maintain a good body weight and so much else that testosterone gives me, but I wouldnt' assume any side effects I had after a week would still be there 3 months later either. That's not how hormones work.
Writing ‘to put it bluntly’ at the start of a message somehow justifies being rude? I am astounded by your lack of empathy and the fact you believe if you don’t understand someone else’s fears then the fears are not valid. I asked you to not reply to any of my posts but still you carry on the same way. You must be a very unhappy person and I feel sorry for you. I will now be ignoring any post you make and really hope you one day either gain some insight or find some happiness so you don’t feel the need to be so mean.
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If you're this threatened by the kind of 'rudeness' you see in what I write, then it's probably just as well for you to ignore it. Gawd knows I don't want people to be reading 'rudeness' into what I write and projecting their issues all over me. People who disagree with your reasoning are not being 'rude', they are disagreeing with your reasoning - and pointing out why. In a world where women are suffering the extreme side effects and life affecting symptoms they are experiencing, it still seems [insert many different words here] to be deciding to stop testosterone based on one week of body odour... I mean, I just don't really have words... Sorry, but I don't know how to express that without seeming rude. I still feel the same.
I'm not here to be 'empathic'. I missed where we have to sign up to that, to participate in this forum. I'm here to share my experiences and to give advice based on that experience and knowledge - whilst asking for the same from others. I hope that someone else searching and finding this thread learns that side effects typically resolve if they persist beyond one week.
I don't remember when you asked me not to reply to any of your posts, but you don't get to request that either. If you write something on a public forum, others on that public forum have the right to reply to your posts.
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Katherine may be ignoring your posts but what an unpleasant person you appear to be, Joziel. You are behaving more like a troll here with your nasty comments and attitude.
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I hope some people can see the useful points behind what I'm saying - and get over the excitement of making this into some kind of a fight. I'm not really interested in that.
If y'all think it's perfectly reasonable to stop taking a hormone after just one week because you have noticed an increase in body odour, then that's great. That's not my opinion.
Sometimes people don't like to hear things which go against what they've pretty much made their mind up to do anyway - when they were just seeking support for what they'd already decided to do...
I'm not very interested in whether I'm considered a troll, nasty, rude... Whatever. Take what I have to say, if you find it useful. Don't take it if you don't find it useful. No need to over-sensationalise it for the sake of drama.
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Girls, girls, girls. Be kind when you post, think B4 pressing that 'go' button? The written word is static. Members can be blocked if necessary.
On the subject: I've noticed in the last 4-5 days that I whiff from my upper body. DH shaved under my arms last night. I haven't altered my diet. I do remember MinL whiffing in similar fashion when she was in her 60s. [I'm 70 today :whist:]. I don't use anti-persperant generally but may add it to my morning routine. Part of my problem is what to wear: I have 'zerofit' clothing next to my skin: as well as layers to keep warm and a coat when we are out and about.
Many years ago I had pets and recognise the 'scared to death' smell on the way to/from the Vet. My odour is totally different ::)
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Hi ladies
I spoke to a gp today who was very understanding and it looks like I may have been taking too high a dose so he has suggested having a break and then maybe trying again at a lower dose. My own gp did warn me that there can be irreversible side effects with T such as a deeper voice and hair growth but the gp I spoke to today thinks that the body odour issue is reversible. That does make sense, but I guess it’s better to be cautious with hormones than ignore your instincts. Thank you to all you ladies who have been supportive and understanding, it means a lot xxx
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Hi Katherine,
The 'irreversible' effects are from taking T in high doses (such as when transitioning or body builders who abuse drugs)
These side effects ate terrifying, especially when you're feeling vulnerable.
My first experience of taking Testosterone (Tostran) was 1 pump on alternate nights. So I excitedly took my dose before bed. I was totally wired all night... I knew never to take it at night again and was better off taking a small amount every day. I definitely take less than half a pump a day, but adjust it according to how I feel.
What I'm trying to say is that we are all individuals and react differently to the meds given. The BO and greasy skin for me is a sign of youth! And just like in my youth I have to be more vigilant with deodorant, have good skin care and wash my hair more often. Upside is I look less wrinkly have thicker hair and way better eyelashes
... but absolutely zero increase in facial hair.
I know you didn't ask for advice but I really would suggest you try it at a very small dose and see how you go... one of the greatest effect T has had on me is that I'm so much more resilient. I used to get upset by little things and play them over and over. I seem to be able to let things go and move on.
T has been a game changer for me, just like oestrogen.. if only I could find a progesterone that didn't make me feel like s**t.
Good luck and keep us posted
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Thanks for this Banjo, and everyone else who speaks so upfront about testosterone.
I have finally been given a prescription of testosterone gel, on border so not sure what format, and am a bit mixed of nerves and excitement. Looking at your own post, and that of Hurditys original list of some years back I am going to start on a low dose first to see how things go - and in the morning too as an aware of can give a rush to the body, not best when sleep is much needed...
fingers crossed, despite possible side effects ( as with most types of medications) am hoping the benefits outweigh the possible side effects.
Thanks
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Hi Katherine,
The 'irreversible' effects are from taking T in high doses (such as when transitioning or body builders who abuse drugs)
These side effects ate terrifying, especially when you're feeling vulnerable.
My first experience of taking Testosterone (Tostran) was 1 pump on alternate nights. So I excitedly took my dose before bed. I was totally wired all night... I knew never to take it at night again and was better off taking a small amount every day. I definitely take less than half a pump a day, but adjust it according to how I feel.
What I'm trying to say is that we are all individuals and react differently to the meds given. The BO and greasy skin for me is a sign of youth! And just like in my youth I have to be more vigilant with deodorant, have good skin care and wash my hair more often. Upside is I look less wrinkly have thicker hair and way better eyelashes
... but absolutely zero increase in facial hair.
I know you didn't ask for advice but I really would suggest you try it at a very small dose and see how you go... one of the greatest effect T has had on me is that I'm so much more resilient. I used to get upset by little things and play them over and over. I seem to be able to let things go and move on.
T has been a game changer for me, just like oestrogen.. if only I could find a progesterone that didn't make me feel like s**t.
Good luck and keep us posted
Hi banjo,
Thanks for the additional info, it is very useful and I am definitely considering trying T again in future and will let you know how I go.
In terms of resilience, I don’t think that’s an issue for me. I think I have a normal reaction to nastiness and insensitivity. If something offends me I say how I feel and once I’ve done that I feel better and move on which is a healthy response. I do think I would benefit from the physical benefits though such as an increase in energy and I would love to lift weights in the gym like you!
I hope you can find a progesterone that suits you. I had a love hate relationship with utrogestan for a while but I seem to have either adjusted to it or my own progesterone levels have dropped so it worked out in the end. Good luck xxx
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Hi Katherine,
I was not making a dig at you re. Resilience.
It was an unexpected and incredibly welcome bonus from testosterone.
Peri + lockdown had left me a nervous wreck who was very easily overwhelmed. Although standard HRT gave me my life back, I still had a tendency towards procrastination, self doubt and rumination. Testosterone gave me the oomph to give things a go without fear of failure as well as dealing with adversity in a healthy way
It was a me issue, not a you issue.
I was trying to suggest that giving T a go might make you more likely to try things, like T!!!
Chicken and Egg!
Good luck x
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Many years ago I asked for T to help lack of sex drive. My GP told me that I would grow facial hair and my voice would deepen. End of discussion.
However, T is a part of our overall hormonal activity. If U think how teen lads are prone to outbursts in puberty, it stands to reason that women may get a heightened reaction initially. I don't think that there is enough research on replacing T levels in women.
Anti-perspirants stop sweating
Deodeorants cover up one smell with another
Let us know how you get on
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Hi Katherine,
I was not making a dig at you re. Resilience.
It was an unexpected and incredibly welcome bonus from testosterone.
Peri + lockdown had left me a nervous wreck who was very easily overwhelmed. Although standard HRT gave me my life back, I still had a tendency towards procrastination, self doubt and rumination. Testosterone gave me the oomph to give things a go without fear of failure as well as dealing with adversity in a healthy way
It was a me issue, not a you issue.
I was trying to suggest that giving T a go might make you more likely to try things, like T!!!
Chicken and Egg!
Good luck x
Hi banjo,
I know you weren’t having a dig, honestly, I was just explaining that that’s not an issue but that there are other areas where I could benefit. You were just giving me all the info which I really appreciate! I may be back to pick your brain again about it later too!x
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Many years ago I asked for T to help lack of sex drive. My GP told me that I would grow facial hair and my voice would deepen. End of discussion.
However, T is a part of our overall hormonal activity. If U think how teen lads are prone to outbursts in puberty, it stands to reason that women may get a heightened reaction initially. I don't think that there is enough research on replacing T levels in women.
Anti-perspirants stop sweating
Deodeorants cover up one smell with another
Let us know how you get on
Hi CLKD,
I agree about the research issue; as you say T is just another normal hormone that women have. I think we are given minimal info and kind of have to figure it out through trial
and error. It took me ages to find the right regime and dose of oestrogen and progesterone.
I use the natural deodorants that let you sweat but the sweat doesn’t smell as it inhibits the bacteria. I find sweat still breaks through anti perspirants and I usually find them to be less effective.
It’s a shame we are given such minimal info about HRT. I expect a lot of women give up before they have chance to get the full benefits of it.
It makes sense what you say about an initial heightened reaction. The same happened to me with oestrogen in terms of side effects which then subsided. I have a feeling I will try T again in future and will report back.
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MayB wait until the New Year B4 adjusting anything?
I like the idea of natural deodorants. I don't sweat on the right side having had lymph glands removed ......... not as much hair grows either ;)
And of course, more and more dogs are being used to diagnose potential diseases through sweat.
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Salt of the earth deodorants are good.
I won’t be adjusting anything until at least the new year. I still have this odour so it might take a while to go and I need to prove to myself that it does go!
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OHH. Postmeno3! Was the Postman aware :lol:
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Oh we loves a meander we does ;D
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Hi.
I just want to jump in here with a thought. Are you able to turn this into a positive in that the reaction is a sign that something, which may just need tweaking, is actually working? What do you think? When I first started T, no-one was safe from my relentless, lustful thoughts! Several times a day, including the postman, but at least it was a reaction which soon subsided with tweaking. it was exhausting! I hope this makes you smile. 😊
Hi postmeno, This is just hilarious and did make me smile! I do see what you mean. I feel alright now, I think I just got a bit of a shock! I do think I will be trying the T again next year sometime at a lower dose but for now I just want to have a relaxing holiday. Thanks for posting! :)
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Hi ladies
I’ve come to the conclusion that natural deodorant does not work on me anymore and am testing some antiperspirants so if anyone can recommend a good one I’d be most grateful! I’ve got sure and Mitchum roll on at the moment.
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I've only ever used an antiperspirant, a normal deodorant would never be strong enough for me. This thread has been of interest to me as I do remember in my 50's having to try a stronger deodorant like Mitchum because nothing else was working.
Now older I am doing ok on Dove antiperspirant and can get away with every other day, perhaps hormonal change can have quite an effect on our sweat glands.
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I use 'dove' anti-perspirant when ever I am going to be in a closed environment or anywhere where my anxiety levels = more sweating.
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That’s interesting Ayesha. I am currently testing a Mitchum roll on so fingers crossed that will work for me. I do like the smell of the Dove more though. I wish we had had a meno module at school so we could have been prepared for all this!
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I use 'dove' anti-perspirant when ever I am going to be in a closed environment or anywhere where my anxiety levels = more sweating.
I like the smell of Dove, the soap is nice too.
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As is the bubble bath ........... ;)
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Ooh not tried the bubble bath, might have to :)
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I find a lot of nice products in Charity Shops after the New Year ;-).
I also note that my clothing doesn't smell even when I'm aware that my underarms are whiffy ::)
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Mitchum’s doing well so far. Lasted all day. I’ve noticed I’m sweating a lot lately, much more than usual. It feels like hot flushes. But still on 3 pumps gel. I think the T has upset things.
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Hi Katherine, I know of several women, me included who've had the same unpleasant reaction to testosterone, please don't worry though it's not irreversible. If you decide to try it again I agree with the suggestion to try a lower dose. I found no more than a petit pois sized blob was ample, but that said I'm a very small woman & it may also depend on how much you are able to produce for yourself - I have no ovaries so inadequate T of my own. Worth experimenting with for the many benefits it brings those of us who need it.
Sx
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Thanks Wrensong, I found your post very informative and reassuring. I do feel like the smell is fading a bit. After reading of all the potential benefits in this thread ( there are far more than I was aware of) and the fact that several people are saying the smell goes, I think I will try T again sometime in the new year. I’m so glad I posted about this. X
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It's good that you posted about it Katherine, not only for your own reassurance but because your thread will be there for others reading & searching in the future. Well done for raising a topic that can be hard to air. :medal: So much associated with menopause & its treatments has been taboo for far too long & that can lead to feelings of isolation & fear, so that we can be up front here, I think is invaluable.
Btw I routinely shower twice a day, have used antiperspirant by default after showering since a teen, lead quite a sedate life(!) i.e. not involved in manual work/heavy lifting etc & don't work out to excess, so had no obvious reason to develop BO & had never experienced it prior to starting testosterone. I can clearly recall 2 other women reporting the same reaction on here & a doing a quick search just now I found 2 more, one of which I've pasted in below. I won't give the link to the other as there is conficting advice on application which could be confusing.
https://www.menopausematters.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,51017.msg786440.html#msg786440
Wx
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It's good that you posted about it Katherine, not only for your own reassurance but because your thread will be there for others reading & searching in the future. Well done for raising a topic that can be hard to air. :medal: So much associated with menopause & its treatments has been taboo for far too long & that can lead to feelings of isolation & fear, so that we can be up front here, I think is invaluable.
Btw I routinely shower twice a day, have used antiperspirant by default after showering since a teen, lead quite a sedate life(!) i.e. not involved in manual work/heavy lifting etc & don't work out to excess, so had no obvious reason to develop BO & had never experienced it prior to starting testosterone. I can clearly recall 2 other women reporting the same reaction on here & a doing a quick search just now I found 2 more, one of which I've pasted in below. I won't give the link to the other as there is conficting advice on application which could be confusing.
https://www.menopausematters.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,51017.msg786440.html#msg786440
Wx
Thanks Wrensong. I’ll have a look at the link. I’m really glad I posted as this has all been invaluable information to me and as you say, other women will find it informative too. X
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Hi Katherine,
The 'irreversible' effects are from taking T in high doses (such as when transitioning or body builders who abuse drugs)
These side effects ate terrifying, especially when you're feeling vulnerable.
My first experience of taking Testosterone (Tostran) was 1 pump on alternate nights. So I excitedly took my dose before bed. I was totally wired all night... I knew never to take it at night again and was better off taking a small amount every day. I definitely take less than half a pump a day, but adjust it according to how I feel.
What I'm trying to say is that we are all individuals and react differently to the meds given. The BO and greasy skin for me is a sign of youth! And just like in my youth I have to be more vigilant with deodorant, have good skin care and wash my hair more often. Upside is I look less wrinkly have thicker hair and way better eyelashes
... but absolutely zero increase in facial hair.
I know you didn't ask for advice but I really would suggest you try it at a very small dose and see how you go... one of the greatest effect T has had on me is that I'm so much more resilient. I used to get upset by little things and play them over and over. I seem to be able to let things go and move on.
T has been a game changer for me, just like oestrogen.. if only I could find a progesterone that didn't make me feel like s**t.
Good luck and keep us posted
Banjo I’ve been reading this thread again to remind myself, as I’m in my pre period slump of being glued to the bed or sofa and am thinking about T again. I was wondering your age? I’m 47 and wondering if my T levels are likely to have dropped a lot since my 30s. Also I’m wondering if women have a monthly T cycle like they do with oestrogen and progesterone. From the reading I have done it looks like T might be highest around ovulation and lowest just before menstruation..
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Hi Katherine,
Hormonal fluctuations are illustrated well on this site
https://womeninbalance.org/about-hormone-imbalance/
Testosterone is pretty constant slightly peaking at ovulation (as you said)
I am 50 and have been on hrt for 2 years and Testosterone for 1.
Even though I had and still have regular periods, I believe my t levels have been declining for many years. For example my arms became hair free at some point in my early 40s also I stopped needing to use a deodorant.
Only you can decide whether to try T again, but in my opinion it's definitely worth a go. The only thing I would suggest is to start low, you can always increase it.
I truly believe the need for a strong deodorant is a small price to pay for all the benefits.
Hopefully it will work for you x
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Hey Banjo thanks for replying so quickly. Thanks for the link. I am definitely thinking about it again. If a strong deodorant definitely fixed the body odour there’s no question I would try it again but I felt as if it was my whole body smelling (well all the bits that sweat more) and that by evening time the smell had broken through my deodorant. But I guess if I applied Mitchum twice a day, foot deodorant and used feminine wipes during the day I could put up a strong fight against it! Ha ha, I will combat it! I don’t want to lose my feminine smell and soft skin I guess that scares me. But the idea of all the benefits is tempting. I will do more research and maybe try a tiny dose each day. X
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Hi ladies
I have restarted on the testogel but about half the dose. Had no side effects so far so fingers crossed. The Mitchum is doing a great job :)wish me luck!
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I do wish you luck Katherine, it takes a steady nerve to to back on something when it gave an I p!peasant reaction, but a lower dose seems a good idea. And you have been given some helpful advice to potential adverse.symptoms as well.
I have just started testosterone about 3 weeks ago, so early days for me. ( also a low dose) and any information posts on here whether giving good or bad reactions on a regime can help others who may be going through something similar.x
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I do wish you luck Katherine, it takes a steady nerve to to back on something when it gave an I p!peasant reaction, but a lower dose seems a good idea. And you have been given some helpful advice to potential adverse.symptoms as well.
I have just started testosterone about 3 weeks ago, so early days for me. ( also a low dose) and any information posts on here whether giving good or bad reactions on a regime can help others who may be going through something similar.x
Thanks so much Sarah. I hope you’re doing ok and good luck to you too. I’ve heard so many good things on here about testosterone I just had to try again! X
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Really glad to hear you're giving it another go Katherine.
Sarah T, The only negatives (for me) can be remedied by switching up your routine... So stronger deodorant, more frequent hair washing, skin care for greasier skin.
I really hope you get all the fab benefits xx
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Thanks Banjo xxx
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Thanks Banjo and Katherine,
I hadn't connected my hair needing washing more, and my winter moisturiser is too rich. Seems obvious but we don't always see the obvious!
Easy enough to adapt a new skincare regime. I am one who has always been prone to sweating so Mitchum is already my go to.
Thanks
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SarahT,
Same re. Mitchum!!!
I was also slow to switch up my skin care, I got a few spots, foundation wouldn't sit well.... then one day started using my teenage daughters facewash and boom, all good.
Take care and keep up posted x
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Hi All,
just thought I would add that T can help with dry eyes also.
useful links below :
https://balance-menopause.com/uploads/2022/01/Testosterone.pdf
https://www.balance-menopause.com/subject/testosterone/
Pepperminty x
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Thanks pepperminty. I have dry eyes and would like to wear my contact lenses more so hopefully the T will help with this. X
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I hope you get on well with it this time Katherine & yes to it being potentially helpful for dry eyes - the main reason I started taking T. There are some interesting articles looking at the association between dry eye (& Sjogren's) & declining testosterone, especially in those women who've had oophorectomies.
Wx
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Thanks Wrensong. I was totally unaware of the testosterone link, it’s very useful to know. I will look into this further.X
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I've posted quite a lot about the possible dry eye-testosterone deficiency association on here with various links if you want to do a search.
Wx
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I will do Wrensong, thank you x