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General Discussion => This 'n' That => Topic started by: CLKD on December 18, 2023, 02:09:57 PM

Title: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: CLKD on December 18, 2023, 02:09:57 PM
We have decided to visit a few Museums/Zoos between now and New Year.

However: looking at their web-sites it appears that most Zoos now require visitors to pre-book a time slot!  Which makes this rather restrictive, what happens if some1 is driving by and decides to support the Zoo? 

Surely these types of venues cannot afford to turn away monies in the form of ad-hoc visitors?
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: jaypo on December 18, 2023, 02:24:29 PM
No nice safari parks? Longleat is fab,maybe a bit far from yours though
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: Minusminnie on December 18, 2023, 03:03:39 PM
Museums and Zoos may be busy with school holidays.  The prebooking is mainly to get a cheaper ticket and it does mean you are then committed. We've scrabbled with grandchildren to reach a time slot but wonder post covid if it is really all necessary.  Or maybe it is to do with entry flow now who knows ?

You may enjoy llama/alpaca trekking.  Some places are open all year round.  Lovely experience when we went.
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: Songbird on December 18, 2023, 03:42:41 PM
Yep, Jaypo, I love Longleat. 
The best museum I’ve been to is, without doubt, the National Archaeological Museum in Athens……..faaabulous darling! Maybe a bit far to go CLKD  :o
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: CLKD on December 18, 2023, 03:48:33 PM
It takes the spontaneity away  :'(

Whipsnade prefers people to pre-book ..... of course one you have handed over a booking fee that's it.  The money is in their coffers.

I won't be be pre-booking.  Too much likely to up my anxiety levels. 

I can't see the point in llama trekking and with animal movements having to be applied for and licensed, I don't understand how they R able to do that.  Also, llamas spit  :o :-X
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: Minusminnie on December 18, 2023, 06:03:42 PM

I can't see the point in llama trekking and with animal movements having to be applied for and licensed, I don't understand how they R able to do that. 

Diversification.

Our trek was lead by a llama with a handler we followed with alpacas. I found it just a pleasant experience if you ignore all the tourist trappings attached to it …gift shop etc.
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: Taz2 on December 18, 2023, 06:19:02 PM
We have an alpaca walking centre in the next village. They also take them round to all the local care homes. Looks good fun.

Taz x
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: sheila99 on December 18, 2023, 06:53:02 PM
I can provide you with a 'walk with animals' experience and I won't even charge you for it   :). TB test tomorrow, cows came home today. Three quarters of an hour getting them out of 50 acre bog (wellie only came off once) followed by a lovely scenic 2ish mile walk along the boundary of the Peak District - well, it would have been scenic if it wasn't raining. Cows are nice and friendly when you have a bucket of corn (I can even provide a stick for when they get a bit too friendly 🐂). Any takers for next year?? I'll play with a hamster instead.
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: jaypo on December 18, 2023, 06:55:23 PM
👋👋👋👋me me meeeeee,my best memories are when we lived on my grandpas farm,used to love it when all the cows came in for the winter 🥰
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: sheila99 on December 18, 2023, 09:03:06 PM
And all I see are piles and piles of 💩💩💩💩💩🤐
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: CLKD on December 18, 2023, 09:06:03 PM
This could be another thread Sheila - I'm game; Good with a shovel.  Love making compost and manure piles.  Did I ever tell U about when I was found, sitting in the stall with the Hereford bull, reading to him  ;D.  The 1 time that I ever heard my Uncle swear and 'don't tell her mother'!  I was 4 ...........

How 'good' is the TB testing likely to B?  R U in a particularly vulnerable area  :-\ ?

As for llamas - did any1 watch Jules trying to dose a flock of the critters on 'the winter farm' last week  :o oh and it don't have stink!  Worse than a Billy goat. Did I ever tell you about Whipsnade Zoo .......... Dad and a llama?

Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: sheila99 on December 18, 2023, 09:24:18 PM
This is an extra test because our neighbour had one that tested positive. Most people round here have gone down with it at one time or another so I think it's only a matter of time before we do. Even more 💩💩💩 if we go down as we won't be able to sell anything.
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: CLKD on December 18, 2023, 10:56:03 PM
Why do farmers continue with cattle if they are in a 'risk' area for TB?  Is there nothing else that can substitute ....... I know that many lines have been developed over the years but sometimes it seems like banging head against a wall.

The stress and worry ........... as well as affection for the beasts.   :-\
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: Minusminnie on December 19, 2023, 08:42:25 AM
I can provide you with a 'walk with animals' experience and I won't even charge you for it   :). TB test tomorrow, cows came home today. Three quarters of an hour getting them out of 50 acre bog (wellie only came off once) followed by a lovely scenic 2ish mile walk along the boundary of the Peak District - well, it would have been scenic if it wasn't raining. Cows are nice and friendly when you have a bucket of corn (I can even provide a stick for when they get a bit too friendly 🐂). Any takers for next year?? I'll play with a hamster instead.

Maybe you should charge for it.  You already have two takers !
You may find this of interest.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/nov/21/cuddling-cow-less-stressed-wellness-experience-dumble-farm-east-yorkshire
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: jaypo on December 19, 2023, 10:40:44 AM
Aww that's brilliant minusminnie 😀
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: CLKD on December 19, 2023, 11:04:01 AM
Ummmm ........... OK until the cow decides to get up - bum first? 

Going no where, it's chucking it down  >:(
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: sheila99 on December 19, 2023, 10:28:17 PM
Why do farmers continue with cattle if they are in a 'risk' area for TB?  Is there nothing else that can substitute ....... I know that many lines have been developed over the years but sometimes it seems like banging head against a wall.

The stress and worry ........... as well as affection for the beasts.   :-\
Not for us. Land isn't good enough for arable and mixed cows and sheep is better for the land. Cows eat the long rough grass sheep won't eat and provide muck. And sheep aren't safe on any land out of earshot with a footpath across it.

Minusminnie it's great old dairy cows have a career path that doesn't include burghers but I hope they have good insurance. However placid the cow they're so much bigger and stronger than us they can harm us without meaning to.
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: Minusminnie on December 20, 2023, 05:26:20 AM

Minusminnie it's great old dairy cows have a career path that doesn't include burghers but I hope they have good insurance. However placid the cow they're so much bigger and stronger than us they can harm us without meaning to.

I read the article & wondered what my dad would have made of it. He was a tenant farmer most of his life took it over with little choice at 17 after my grandad died.  He believed in education to get out of it. As kids we helped at times but never encouraged into farming.
Maybe people paying to hug the cows might have made life easier ?  If it’s alpacas I’m happy to pay to walk one.  :)
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: CLKD on December 20, 2023, 10:27:35 AM
Morning Sheila - I would love to visit ........... llamas and those large white/creamy coloured Eastern European dogs will sort out foxes and intruders ;-). 

Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: sheila99 on December 20, 2023, 11:34:10 AM

Minusminnie it's great old dairy cows have a career path that doesn't include burghers but I hope they have good insurance. However placid the cow they're so much bigger and stronger than us they can harm us without meaning to.

I read the article & wondered what my dad would have made of it. He was a tenant farmer most of his life took it over with little choice at 17 after my grandad died.  He believed in education to get out of it. As kids we helped at times but never encouraged into farming.
Maybe people paying to hug the cows might have made life easier ?  If it’s alpacas I’m happy to pay to walk one.  :)
I tried that but it didn't work! It got to covid and daughter decided she'd had enough of education and daughter decided she's following her father into farming. As soon as he could walk OH followed his own father round the farm, there's no way he'd have done anything else.
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: sheila99 on December 20, 2023, 11:39:22 AM
Morning Sheila - I would love to visit ........... llamas and those large white/creamy coloured Eastern European dogs will sort out foxes and intruders ;-).
Llamas and alpacas are supposed to protect sheep from predators but I think you have to have a single one or they'll protect their own species but not the sheep. Haven't tried it though. It might work for foxes but against dogs I suspect the outcome would be an alpaca torn to shreds as well as the sheep.
Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: CLKD on December 20, 2023, 03:30:33 PM
I don't think so: they are fierce animals when threatened and I believe are kept in groups because like sheep, they need companions.  They have a backward kick that will stun a dog as well as spitting vomit when threatened ........  ;D. Did I ever tell u about my Dad and a female llama at Whipsnade ........

Title: Re: Visiting UK attractions
Post by: CLKD on January 09, 2024, 06:27:33 PM
Cuddling cows on Local News this evening.  However: 'blue tongue' has been diagnosed in the South and what are the chances of visitors carrying disease into farms  :-\  ???


Do llamas protect against wolves?

Llama's can be successful guard animals since they naturally dislike canines.

When the flock is in danger they become aggressive towards coyotes, wolves, dogs and foxes. When protecting the flock, llamas are alert and may alarm call and position themselves between the flock and the trespasser.

Research suggests the use of multiple guard llamas is not as effective as one.  [no idea which research  ::)]

Multiple males tend to bond with one another, rather than with the livestock, and may ignore the flock. A gelded male of two years of age instinctively bonds with its new charges and is very effective in preventing predation.