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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Losingtheplot on May 22, 2023, 12:30:58 PM
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Hi Ladies
Has anyone suffered the awful internal jittery sensations that have eventually passed? I think i am peri and on month 2 of HRT gel and Utrogestan and it seems to be helping I think. But I still suffer palpatations mainly on a morning and this awful internal jittery feeling throughout the day I have it now! My anxiety is slowly getting better but the jittery feeling has gone on for months and months now its not down to hunger as I can feel like this after food. Just looking for hope....
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Hi Ladies
Has anyone suffered the awful internal jittery sensations that have eventually passed? I think i am peri and on month 2 of HRT gel and Utrogestan and it seems to be helping I think. But I still suffer palpatations mainly on a morning and this awful internal jittery feeling throughout the day I have it now! My anxiety is slowly getting better but the jittery feeling has gone on for months and months now its not down to hunger as I can feel like this after food. Just looking for hope....
Yep can relate to that! I always thought it was hypos in the night and could literally shake from head to foot with heart galloping it’s awful,better now on hrt/ or less stress
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Hello Losingtheplot
I have had this sensation and it is horrible. For me this arrived during post meno and my trusty Meno book reassured me that it was due to falling hormones. For me the jittery feelings are closely linked to anxiety and it is interesting that you have noticed a distinction between these sensations.
I understand that this does resolve naturally at some point and hopefully ladies with more experience will be along soon.
Wishing you well and take care.
K.
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I had this yesterday and do not know why. Do not worry, this is common and it does pass. :)
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Hi,
Yes I assumed the jittery feeling was part of the anxiety. I do get this feeling also when I up my patch dose, and a bit breathless, but this tends to ease after a few days since my body gets used to the new higher dose. As my anxiety seems to be lessening, or I am maybe better able to cope with it,the jitters don't seem as frequent now.
Hope then it passes for you as others suggest. X
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I think I get this too. In my hands, elbows, knees, tummy. Feels like shaky inside but when i look nothing is shaking. Is that what you mean or is yours all over? I have always wondered what it is, and it's come on again today when I am due my withdrawal bleed.
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I think I get this too. In my hands, elbows, knees, tummy. Feels like shaky inside but when i look nothing is shaking. Is that what you mean or is yours all over? I have always wondered what it is, and it's come on again today when I am due my withdrawal bleed.
Hi Penguin
Yes its very much as you describe! Its so strange does seem less frequent but still having episodes just never experienced this before these past few months. I do suffer anxiety but this can come on when I don't feel particular stressed or anxious. Will stay positive it passes x
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Hi Ladies
Has anyone suffered the awful internal jittery sensations that have eventually passed? I think i am peri and on month 2 of HRT gel and Utrogestan and it seems to be helping I think. But I still suffer palpatations mainly on a morning and this awful internal jittery feeling throughout the day I have it now! My anxiety is slowly getting better but the jittery feeling has gone on for months and months now its not down to hunger as I can feel like this after food. Just looking for hope....
Yep can relate to that! I always thought it was hypos in the night and could literally shake from head to foot with heart galloping it’s awful,better now on hrt/ or less stress
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Hi Booroo,
I tend to suffer mornings with this awful sensation but can filter on throughout the day! The tummy flutters mega early at 3am have calmed down with the awful anxiety and hopefully my body is responding to HRT as things appear to be improving gradually x
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Hello Losingtheplot
I have had this sensation and it is horrible. For me this arrived during post meno and my trusty Meno book reassured me that it was due to falling hormones. For me the jittery feelings are closely linked to anxiety and it is interesting that you have noticed a distinction between these sensations.
I understand that this does resolve naturally at some point and hopefully ladies with more experience will be along soon.
Wishing you well and take care.
K.
Thank you so much Kathleen I will look.forward to when this does eventually run its course.
You take care too my lovely xxx
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I had this yesterday and do not know why. Do not worry, this is common and it does pass. :)
Big hugs Flossie xxx thank u
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Hi,
Yes I assumed the jittery feeling was part of the anxiety. I do get this feeling also when I up my patch dose, and a bit breathless, but this tends to ease after a few days since my body gets used to the new higher dose. As my anxiety seems to be lessening, or I am maybe better able to cope with it,the jitters don't seem as frequent now.
Hope then it passes for you as others suggest. X
Hey hunni
Thank you. I just don't always feel its anxiety related for me when it comes on. Sorry you also suffer these. I hope your doing ok been thinking of you xxx
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Hello again ladies.
Penguin - The shaking that I have is in my abdomen area. According to my book it is due to lower hormones affecting the brain but the sensation is experienced in the body.
I have often mentioned that the best description I ever heard was from a member of this forum who said that she felt as if she had swallowed a large mobile phone that was stuck on vibrate.
I hope your shaking resolves soon.
Wishing you well and take care.
K.
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I never had anxiety symptoms before perimenopause and now I have built up a menu of them, and not by choice ::). They have come and gone and keep coming back over the past few years. I have learnt not to panic so much when they occur but they are still very unpleasant.
They range from:-
- jittery "exam type" feelings in my stomach like something bad is about to happen
- jittery/shivery/fizzing feelings like whole body is shaking uncontrollably inside (like low blood sugar)
- buzzing sensation like internal bodily tinnitus that flicks on and off usually during the night (this for me is the worst)
- fluttering palpitations in chest/throat
- pounding loud heart but not fast
- ectopic beats (I hate these)
I have had various tests and nothing sinister has shown up so when they occur I just try and live through them. Its worst during the night.
When I wrote them down they sound mad. Having this forum to refer to has been a godsend as I realise that I am not alone and that helps greatly.
It will pass.
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Hi Kathleen
Oh that is a good description thank you and exactly how it feels. My brain feels off too today, couldn't solve a simple maths problem, just couldn't think straight, had to phone my friend and ask her to explain verbally how she'd calculated it. Glad to hear it is hormones!
Losingtheplot, no I don't think mine is anxiety either. I know when I'm anxious and what my body feels like. This is very much physical, but is most unpleasant and can result in me feeling anxious as it just makes me so unsettled. Hope you feel better soon, no fun is it.
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Just to add to the above, I also dont think I feel "anxious" to cause them when I experience them, but just having them makes me feel anxious. If that makes sense? Particularly when I wake in the middle of the night with them.
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I never had anxiety symptoms before perimenopause and now I have built up a menu of them, and not by choice ::). They have come and gone and keep coming back over the past few years. I have learnt not to panic so much when they occur but they are still very unpleasant.
They range from:-
- jittery "exam type" feelings in my stomach like something bad is about to happen
- jittery/shivery/fizzing feelings like whole body is shaking uncontrollably inside (like low blood sugar)
- buzzing sensation like internal bodily tinnitus that flicks on and off usually during the night (this for me is the worst)
- fluttering palpitations in chest/throat
- pounding loud heart but not fast
- ectopic beats (I hate these)
I have had various tests and nothing sinister has shown up so when they occur I just try and live through them. Its worst during the night.
When I wrote them down they sound mad. Having this forum to refer to has been a godsend as I realise that I am not alone and that helps greatly.
It will pass.
Hey Dotty
Wow now I can see your list I have been suffering a few things you have listed over past few years and not once did I think it was connected to peri meno/meno.
I get internal buzzing noises but from my pelvic and vagina area on and off not constantly which I find very strange and stabbing pains very infrequently over past couple of years in vagina. Must just be depletion of hormones causing diff things ! I get we are at an age where nature feels we don't need to reproduce anymore but we need these hormones to lead a quality of life its just so backward how our bodies deplete vital hormones we need!
You do so well to deal with so many symptons hunni bless you xx
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Just to add to the above, I also dont think I feel "anxious" to cause them when I experience them, but just having them makes me feel anxious. If that makes sense? Particularly when I wake in the middle of the night with them.
Ahh yes I totally relate to this! I could be fast asleep and be woken up from a deep.sleep due to the jittery feeling. Every morning I suffer loud heart beats like my heart is ready to burst out my chest and this can go on for up to an hour at various times but can filter into the day as palpatations. Oh the bloody joys! Not. Thank you Dotty for sharing as like you I find the anxiety coming on as a result of the above x
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Hello again ladies.
I just wanted to add another twist to the internal shaking scenario. I always feel much better when they stop so I believe that they create a lot of my anxiety. I have also noticed that if I have a sleepless night or just wake in the night I am always calm and the jitters never bother me. They usually start mid morning and last until the early evening.
My trusty Meno book describes these sensations as a subtle fluttering but I don't think they are subtle, I also think that I have become very sensitive to them, a bit like a pain that I expect to begin so I am waiting for it. The book also mentions a sense of unease that comes along at the same time and I can definitely agree with that!
Wishing you well ladies and take care.
K.
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Hey Kathleen
Thank you for this info yes I get the unease too! And your right as we experience these internal shakes frequently I totally relate to the waiting for these to happen! Lets just hope they do get less frequent like your book suggests I do feel mine aren't as frequent as was happening every morning for past couple of months whether they are now just calming down or whether HRT/Ads I am on are helping control who knows. Still early days for Ads so maybe the HRT. I so dislike the side effects of Ads looking at alternatives as they upset my stomach so much
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Just to say that l, too, suffer with the jitters. My worst meno symptom by far. Started 11 years ago when l hit meno and have been on and off ever since. However, l can go for months without any and then they come back. I think l just accept them now and don’t worry; just distract myself and they disappear. I’m not, and never have, been on HRT, so l put it down to drops or fluctuating oestrogen levels. Touch wood, not had a bad day with them for several weeks now. Perhaps they’re gone for good 🤞
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I wonder if these settle in post meno?
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Kathleen, can I just ask, what is the memo book you mention? I have yet to find one that lists my weirdest symptoms but would dearly love to!
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They range from:-
- jittery "exam type" feelings in my stomach like something bad is about to happen
- jittery/shivery/fizzing feelings like whole body is shaking uncontrollably inside (like low blood sugar)
- buzzing sensation like internal bodily tinnitus that flicks on and off usually during the night (this for me is the worst)
- fluttering palpitations in chest/throat
- pounding loud heart but not fast
- ectopic beats (I hate these)
This thread has been an absolute revelation to me. I was thinking seriously of giving up on taking statins, eating dark chocolate and beetroot that I have been consuming over the last few weeks, all items I thought were causing the above symptoms. Throw in being totally stressed out with it all made the whole situation worse.
But reading this thread I find that its quite common, again like VA I had never heard of this condition. I've been a lot better because I am more calm and accepting what's happening but I have realised that eating dark chocolate does make me buzz more, and not in a good way ;D
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Hi Ayesha,
Glad this thread has helped. I feel the same. When I try and explain most of the above to some people they look at me like I am mad, so having others who understand or can relate is such a great comfort.
It will pass. X
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I am so pleased so say that yesterday was the 1st day in literally 2 months that I didn't experience the jittery feeling :) So it does pass lets hope it stays gone!
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Hello again ladies.
Jjumper - I bought my meno book from a charity shop twenty years ago. I remember because I was forty eight at the time and my GP had just suggested that I needed to prepare for the menopause. At that age my periods were regular and I didn't have any menopause problems. Oh happy days!
The book is very comprehensive and at that time I hadn't experienced any symptoms and hoped I never would. I remember reading the chapter on emotional problems and not recognising a single one. Oh well, we all know how that has worked out.
Having said all that the book may still be in print or available somewhere so here are the details for you :-
Title. Menopause
Author Dr Miriam Stoppard
Publisher Dorling Kindersley
First Published in Great Britain in 1994, then again in 2001.
ISBN 0 7513 3426 X
I hope this helps you and good luck. If you track it down please let us know.
Losingtheplot - It's good to hear that your jitters have given you a break. Fingers crossed it lasts.
Take care ladies.
K.
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A friend lent me this book years ago, she was five years older than me and at the time I was only suffering from hot flushes and subsequently went on HRT for five years only.
On reflection I wish I had read it more comprehensively because I wasn't at the time looking to the future not realising that symptoms of the menopause can give you severe conditions right up to over 70's.
I remember it being a fabulous book, one of the very best at the time, I hope it's available somewhere for younger women to read and take seriously, education is power!
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This thread has been really helpful to me too 😊
When first reading I thought ‘no I don’t get that’ but now it’s just occurred to me that sometimes and it’s usually afternoon I’ve felt like I’ve had too much caffeine when I haven’t had any for hours. I feel like I’m on edge and not knowing why. So thank you, another thread to assure me I’m not going totally insane ….. yet.
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Bless you Torijj its just awful I get it throughout the day too makes you me think sometimes if its visible I am shaking but its all internal bloody peri meno!
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Kathleen and Ayesha thank you so much. I will track it down!!!!! And will also report back. I’ve already read several books about menopause and i plan to continue reading anything I can - there is so little research done into women’s bodies and I agree, information is indeed power! Thank you again!
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Kathleen, just to say I tracked down a second hand copy of the Miriam Stoppard book you mentioned and have just finished reading it. Although it is available in a newer edition I opted to buy the 2001 version as I was keen to see what she had written about HRT before the whole Women's Health Initiative study debacle. I found it a really comprehensive and useful read which I know I will go back to again and again. I was surprised to see her mention formication as a symptom - I started suffering with this in 2014 age 37 but have only recently learned it was hormone related - I wish one of my doctors had read Stoppard’s book and been able to advise me earlier.
Thanks again for the recommendation!
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Hello again ladies.
I just wanted to add another twist to the internal shaking scenario. I always feel much better when they stop so I believe that they create a lot of my anxiety. I have also noticed that if I have a sleepless night or just wake in the night I am always calm and the jitters never bother me. They usually start mid morning and last until the early evening.
My trusty Meno book describes these sensations as a subtle fluttering but I don't think they are subtle, I also think that I have become very sensitive to them, a bit like a pain that I expect to begin so I am waiting for it. The book also mentions a sense of unease that comes along at the same time and I can definitely agree with that!
Wishing you well ladies and take care.
K.
Hi Kathleen
This all sounds like the vibrating feeling I posted about. Can I ask which meno book you have as I would like to get a copy and read more about it? X
Katherine
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Hi Ladies
Has anyone suffered the awful internal jittery sensations that have eventually passed? I think i am peri and on month 2 of HRT gel and Utrogestan and it seems to be helping I think. But I still suffer palpatations mainly on a morning and this awful internal jittery feeling throughout the day I have it now! My anxiety is slowly getting better but the jittery feeling has gone on for months and months now its not down to hunger as I can feel like this after food. Just looking for hope....
Hi losingtheplot
Sorry to hear about this, does it feel like your body is vibrating? I had this the other night
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Hello ladies.
Katherine - I have posted the details of my trusty Meno book on page one of this thread.
I see that Jjumper has found a copy and it appears that it is still in print.
It is an excellent book and I have always found it very useful.
Take care ladies.
K.
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Ahh fantastic thank you I will see if I can order a copy too just helps reassure me I am not going mad and my body is going thru a process a bloody awful process.
Take care hunni xxx