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Menopause Discussion => Postmenopause => Topic started by: HebridesForever on April 24, 2023, 12:42:22 PM
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Hi
For the past 5 months I have been waking up nauseous. At times it can last all day. By the time I go to bed I feel okay and then the next morning it’s like Groundhog Day and I am back to feeling nauseous again.
I am 55 years old and post menopausal nearly 10 years. Out of the blue last September I started suffering from Anxiety and the occasional Panic Attack. It has become extremely debilitating and in between the nausea and anxiety I have had to take time off work, cancel social engagements etc.
I had various bloods and samples taken in December which all came back satisfactory. I was prescribed Mirtazapine 15mg which I took for 2 months. It certainly helped me sleep but there was no notable improvement with nausea or anxiety. I was then prescribed Evorel Conti which I have been using for just over 2 months. Besides the bloating over the first few weeks I still feel nauseous every morning.
I’m just not sure where to go from here and any advice would be appreciated if you are in the same boat as me.
Thanks.
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Hi and welcome. Sounds like acid reflux particularly when you wake up. Google and see if your symptoms match. Acid reflux is extremely common in people over 50. Good luck and let us know how you get on.
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Hi and welcome. Sounds like acid reflux particularly when you wake up. Google and see if your symptoms match. Acid reflux is extremely common in people over 50. Good luck and let us know how you get on.
Thanks for your message.
The main symptom of Acid Reflux appears to be Heartburn which I don’t get.
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Heartburn, indigestion and acid reflux can all give different symptoms. I have them all at times!
How is your diet overall? I find that eating little and often stops those early morning anxiety/nausea surges. It may take 3-4 weeks B4 U notice any difference, same with HRT. The body needs to build up over a few months.
MayB try having a light supper 30 mins B4 bed? Dry/ginger biscuits.
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Heartburn, indigestion and acid reflux can all give different symptoms. I have them all at times!
How is your diet overall? I find that eating little and often stops those early morning anxiety/nausea surges. It may take 3-4 weeks B4 U notice any difference, same with HRT. The body needs to build up over a few months.
MayB try having a light supper 30 mins B4 bed? Dry/ginger biscuits.
Hi
My diet is good overall. I do struggle in the morning but I force myself to have a bowl of cereal or slice of toast before I go to work. I have stashes of ginger biscuits everywhere and also drink ginger tea.
I’m not giving up on the HRT yet. If it can help with the anxiety that would be BRILLIANT.
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Heartburn, indigestion and acid reflux can all give different symptoms. I have them all at times!
How is your diet overall? I find that eating little and often stops those early morning anxiety/nausea surges. It may take 3-4 weeks B4 U notice any difference, same with HRT. The body needs to build up over a few months.
MayB try having a light supper 30 mins B4 bed? Dry/ginger biscuits.
I perhaps gave up too soon with the Mirtazapine and should have persevered another couple of months.
I’m going to give the Evorel Conti a longer trial and if no improvement I will give the Mirtazapine another go but as you say, give it a longer trial.
Many thanks for the advice.
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I hate that early morning nausea :-\ :'(. What time to you wake?
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I don't know whether this is a side effect of aging but I suffered the same for years from about the age of 55. Awful morning sickness and struggling to eat breakfast, always ending with eating a boiled sweet to relieve the nausea. It went by the afternoon which I put down to moving around and I was able to eat a good lunch and dinner.
The only thing I can possibly relate it to was the start of muscle aches that got worse over the years but since doing exercises I am no longer waking up with severe nausea but still eat the boiled sweets. Also at the same time digestive issues started to be a problem, it's all a minefield I'm afraid this aging milarky!
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I hate that early morning nausea :-\ :'(. What time to you wake?
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I work Monday to Friday and I’m awake about 7am. I’m not a morning person anyway so this nausea just makes it worse. I’m exhausted by it. I dread opening my eyes in the morning..
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The awful part of it is going away somewhere and unable to eat the amazing breakfasts, I felt a complete fool sitting there with my slice of toast when everyone else was tucking in to a wonderful big breakfast and me feeling I just wanted to throw up.
Self catering was the only way to go from then on.
I wish I had a better answer for you, hopefully someone will!
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I don't know whether this is a side effect of aging but I suffered the same for years from about the age of 55. Awful morning sickness and struggling to eat breakfast, always ending with eating a boiled sweet to relieve the nausea. It went by the afternoon which I put down to moving around and I was able to eat a good lunch and dinner.
The only thing I can possibly relate it to was the start of muscle aches that got worse over the years but since doing exercises I am no longer waking up with severe nausea but still eat the boiled sweets. Also at the same time digestive issues started to be a problem, it's all a minefield I'm afraid this aging milarky!
Thanks for your message.
The GP has just phoned me and prescribed Omeprazole for 4-6 weeks to see if that helps. She suggested taking it at bedtime and see how I feel in the morning.
It’s certainly a minefield😂
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Do let us know if it helps, I didn't start Omeprazole until the last couple of years. I would be very interested to know if it solves the nausea feelings.
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Do let us know if it helps, I didn't start Omeprazole until the last couple of years. I would be very interested to know if it solves the nausea feelings.
Hi Ayesha
I will definitely keep you posted.
Thanks
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Oh those small breakfast rooms in Hotels :( where the smell of cooked breakfast made it impossible to contemplate going although in recent years I haven't struggled as much. Which is why we went self catering - no cooking smells, could eat when/what I wanted, the dog enjoyed her holidays.
Thinking of someone cutting in2 a fried egg :-X even when DH cooks some for his lunch :beaurk: ;D
There must be a reason for early morning 'sickness' feelings. Must be hormonal? Would it be connected to the rise and fall? Could you try an anti-travel sickness drug at night ?
I take my omeprazolol in the morning to counter act any daily heartburn. Let us know how you get on.
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Oh those small breakfast rooms in Hotels :( where the smell of cooked breakfast made it impossible to contemplate going although in recent years I haven't struggled as much. Which is why we went self catering - no cooking smells, could eat when/what I wanted, the dog enjoyed her holidays.
Thinking of someone cutting in2 a fried egg :-X even when DH cooks some for his lunch :beaurk: ;D
There must be a reason for early morning 'sickness' feelings. Must be hormonal? Would it be connected to the rise and fall? Could you try an anti-travel sickness drug at night ?
I take my omeprazolol in the morning to counter act any daily heartburn. Let us know how you get on.
GP has suggested taking the Omeprazole at bedtime and see if it helps in the morning.
Unfortunately, I don’t know if this anxiety and nausea is hormonal, hence the reason I’m trying different things. It’s so difficult at times :'(
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Hi HebridesForever
I too have/do suffer from nausea all day. I sailed through the menopause (12 yrs post) but just after covid hit us all around lockdown I started suffering from dreadful digestive symptoms including nausea as well as terrible VA. The nausea would strike and this would go on for months, feeling sick all day (not actually being sick though) but like you I also felt better in the evening, when stomach was full. I eventually got VA under control with Vagifem but the digestive problems have stayed with me. I have been on and off lanzoprazole since then (currently off it for three months) nothing really worked. Under gastro doc and again nothing came up there after colonoscopy, endoscopy, scans and bloods. So as it all came at the same time as VA it’s either hormonal for me alternatively could be stress related as I was under awful pressure during lockdown as own my own business employing several people. Although appreciate everyone was under pressure at that time. I am not in hrt apart from Vagifem.
I haven’t had this now since 31st March, so I am hoping it won’t come back, but I know from past experiences it possibly will.
So just posting to say you are not alone with your nausea but unsure what courses it. think it’s possibly anxiety being caused by hormones, the anxiety then causes the digestive issues. It feels like a viscous circle 🙈
shellyjayne
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Hi HebridesForever
I too have/do suffer from nausea all day. I sailed through the menopause (12 yrs post) but just after covid hit us all around lockdown I started suffering from dreadful digestive symptoms including nausea as well as terrible VA. The nausea would strike and this would go on for months, feeling sick all day (not actually being sick though) but like you I also felt better in the evening, when stomach was full. I eventually got VA under control with Vagifem but the digestive problems have stayed with me. I have been on and off lanzoprazole since then (currently off it for three months) nothing really worked. Under gastro doc and again nothing came up there after colonoscopy, endoscopy, scans and bloods. So as it all came at the same time as VA it’s either hormonal for me alternatively could be stress related as I was under awful pressure during lockdown as own my own business employing several people. Although appreciate everyone was under pressure at that time. I am not in hrt apart from Vagifem.
I haven’t had this now since 31st March, so I am hoping it won’t come back, but I know from past experiences it possibly will.
So just posting to say you are not alone with your nausea but unsure what courses it. think it’s possibly anxiety being caused by hormones, the anxiety then causes the digestive issues. It feels like a viscous circle 🙈
shellyjayne
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Hi shellyjayne
Thanks for your message and I’m pleased you are feeling okay. Like you I sailed through the past 10 years post menopause and it was September last year, out of the blue the anxiety and nausea appeared.
It is definitely a vicious circle at the moment.
Thanks
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Ovaries can pump out occasionally even if they have been removed but the adjoining stem left.
It could be a sudden energy loss. Use the Omerprazol as prescribed as well as having a light supper to build up levels. If this doesn't resolve, maybe ask for full blood count including blood sugar levels. Do U take statins as they can cause blood sugar problems as I discovered recently.
Let us know how you get on.
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Ovaries can pump out occasionally even if they have been removed but the adjoining stem left.
It could be a sudden energy loss. Use the Omerprazol as prescribed as well as having a light supper to build up levels. If this doesn't resolve, maybe ask for full blood count including blood sugar levels. Do U take statins as they can cause blood sugar problems as I discovered recently.
Let us know how you get on.
I had bloods thoroughly checked in December and getting them checked again at the start of May. I don’t take statins.
Will keep you posted.
Thanks.
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Nausea was one of my worst symptoms of oestrogen deficiency. It went once I was on the right dose and type of hrt. xxx
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I'm still in peri but morning nausea was one of my first symptoms that something was unbalanced with my hormones.
What do you do food-wise when you feel like this? If it is acid related, then having a glass of water and a small bland snack when you first get up may help give your stomach juices something to work on. I used to have either oat cakes, ginger biscuits or a banana and it helped things settle. Then food little and often so tummy never got too full or too empty.
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That's how I try to keep nausea away penguin.
Looks like Hebrides has left :-\
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I noticed with mine that by the afternoon the nausea had eased. For those of us with this added nuisance in our lives its important not to panic and think we are going to starve to death.
For me I managed with one slice of toast for breakfast with tea. Mid morning a dry biscuit with tea and sandwiches for lunch. By dinner time the nausea had gone and I was able to eat a good amount.
I know from experience now that mine is caused by a repetitive muscle ache caused by knitting, I have knitted for years and I know when I have done too much, I get a flare up and the first thing I notice is the nausea in the mornings.
Hopefully Hebrides will come back in the future and give an update!
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CLKD I read your replies to people back when I was lurking but not confident enough to join last year and took your advice about eating every few hours even through the night! It defo got me through the worst of it :)
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That's great. Pleased that I could be of assistance ;)
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Hello ladies.
I just wanted to add that I experienced nausea this was similar to morning sickness early in post menopause. I say it was like morning sickness but I didn't actually have this during either of my pregnancies.
I reasoned that this symptom was due to plummeting Oestrogen and my GP friend at the time agreed with me. The horrible feelings went after a while so perhaps another problem that burns itself out over time.
Yes it seems that HebridesForever has left the forum so we will never know how things have turned out which is a shame.
Take care ladies.
K.