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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Nas on March 12, 2023, 12:00:01 PM
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Urgh here we go again!
I feel so angry and irritable right now. I don’t think I can be absorbing the patches properly any longer. I could literally pick a fight with ANYBODY today 😢
It feels just like pmt!
I honestly don’t know what to do. I have health conditions emerging out my ears and this menopause lark is grinding me down so much now. I’m 51 and have honestly had enough.
What can I do?
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Hello Nas
I wish I had the answer for you but I do understand as I have been there myself.
I went through a phase of terrible anger and hated everybody. I was using HRT at the time and as I recall the horrible mood faded away.
I am struggling with another mood issue at the moment and it is exhausting.
Hopefully some ladies will be along with practical suggestions for you but you are not alone...this too shall pass as they say!
Take care and sending hugs.
K.
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hi nas
i was thinking about you yesterday, i actually nearly messaged you.
im so sorry youre going through such a lot at the minute.
i have no answer but just wanted to send you a hug xxxx
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Thanks both
Feeling wretched doesn’t come close today 😢
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im so sorry.
i know that feeling well.
sometimes as well its good to let our family and friends know we're struggling.
women are great at saying nothing and carrying on. its not good for our mental health.
thats why safe forums like this are good. xxx
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Thanks disco
I have no idea what the issue is.
Just so so irritable and crampy, like a period is on its way or something.
Maybe my oestrogen has dropped and with the mirena releasing continuous progesterone, I am feeling grim?
What to do next, is a dilemma. I don’t tolerate the 100 patch or the gel well at all.
Such a mess 😢
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Sorry Nas,
Glad you are talking to the forum.
As you and I know it's so bloody hard some days. I know the anger only too well.
Don't know if it will help or if you are able to do so, but sometimes I just get out and walk, on my own, hopefully a route where I don't have to see anyone, and it helps sometimes, just a tiny bit. And yes, sometimes I cry when I am stomping along. I can't always find words to voice my anger and the many emotions this hormonal stuff does to me.
Keep talking here, all of the ladies on here help me so much, as you yourself did for me yesterday when I desperately needed someone
Hugs to you Nas
X
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Thanks disco
I have no idea what the issue is.
Just so so irritable and crampy, like a period is on its way or something.
Maybe my oestrogen has dropped and with the mirena releasing continuous progesterone, I am feeling grim?
What to do next, is a dilemma. I don’t tolerate the 100 patch or the gel well at all.
Such a mess 😢
aw nas
i do hope you get something sorted.
maybe its the mirena making you feel this way. im wondering if theres another option for the estrogen and for the progesterone other than the coil.
take care xxx
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Thanks Sarah
Yes all a blooming nightmare.
I just can’t work out what’s going on right now. Could it be the mirena after 10 months?
How are you today? What’s that bleed doing? Is it slowing ?
Hugs to you too x
Disco, I have no clue. The mirena went in last May and no mood issues to report ( until Friday!) Very odd. X
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very strange things these hormones.
maybe the coil just isnt suiting you now?
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Mmm, not sure disco
Trouble is, utrogestan doesn’t control my bleeding, caused by HRT. The mirena does.
Urggh x
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aw really.
are there no other progesterone options xxx
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Nas first of all I'm sending you a massive hug. It really does just feel never ending sometimes doesn't it.
I can't remember whether you're post or still Peri, but I wondered if your Estrogen could have fluctuated recently at all and this could be causing issues. Just wondering if a blood test might be useful? Xx
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Thanks disco
Ideally I’d like to stick with the mirena, mainly because it’s convenient and does sort the bleeding well. I would be reluctant to try any other progesterone to be honest.
I do have an appointment at the end of this month, so will discuss then I guess. Thanks again disco xx
Gilla, oh my lord, it’s hell!
I am post meno, so don’t quite know why I’m feeling close to death 😩 It’s all very odd. My oestrogen should have stabilised surely? Plus I’ve been on this patch for ages now. I will certainly arrange a blood test.
I know you’ve been struggling loads recently, so forgive me for not replying. I just don’t understand hormones at all and have nothing useful to add. However, you have my empathy and are in my virtual thoughts, as one who has also struggled long enough xxxxx💕
Quick question, can you wear a patch on the lower back, does anyone know?
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Thanks for asking Nas,
I get the utter confusion you feel. Hrt seems full of tweaks, especially if our own hormones still raise their heads to fight with the hrt regime at times.
The bleeding has slowed today, still a grumpy stomach pain. I think I was just shocked and at the end of my tether, just when you think you can vaguely cope with all the sodding symptoms you get hit again with something new. I confess I spent most of yesterday crying...
Like you, I am on the Mirena coil to control bleeding, and for me, to settle the huge hormonal crashes , with its controlling mood swings pmt wise, this has always been my biggest difficulty, I am still Peri (age 56) she reiterates in anger and frustration... I know they say it can take 3-6 months for the coil to settle, and bleeding and spotting is very common at that point. After your 11 months could this still be settling down?
Am glad you have an appt due to discuss it all soon. Hope the drs can work something out for you.
Let us know how you are doing?
As always, big hugs
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Thanks Sarah ☺️
It is a total minefield and one I cannot fathom out at all.
Maybe the coil is still settling, who knows. Maybe I need to up the oestrogen? Maybe I’m not absorbing? Maybe I’m terminally ill and haven’t realised.
Yesterday you cried and I thought I was dying ( felt so poorly). I really hope you feel better soon, honestly I do.
Chin up Sarah x
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You too Nas!
I just keep trying to say to myself I have had so many ups and downs on this whole madness of peri. But I have somehow come back up each time and I must do so again. Spent today just trying to accept that thought. As so many of us know from experience some days are just simply too much. Yesterday was my day like that, floods of confused angry tears whilst you were overwhelmed yourself.
I am upping the estradot tomorrow, from 50, to 75, but am going to snip a bit of the patch off so I can increase gradually...last thing I need is freaking my body out even more ::)
Total minefield indeed.
Not sure about placement of patch on back. I try to alternate spots below my waist, but around the (shaven) pubic area or towards my hips. Somehow I want to keep it kind of near my womb area to.absorb where I need it most?! .. Psychological maybe? Whatever, you and I just want to try anything don't we?!
Hope you can smile a bit tomorrow
S x
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Hi Nas
Not sure if this is helpful but it occurred to me only recently that usually seem to get irritable or angry when I’m sleep deprived or stressed above my limit. It sounds obvious but it’s taken me years to notice this pattern. Even when I thought it was pmt, it’s because during pmt I need loads more sleep and it’s not usually possible to get that much sleep. This makes me think it’s partly down to low serotonin, because we make serotonin when we sleep. And there is a link between oestrogen and serotonin/ serotonin receptors I think. Sorry if this sounds really obvious but I wanted to help. Does anyone else have any thoughts on the serotonin link? I hope you feel better soon Nas. The things that help me the most are sleep and nature walks. X
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Hi Nas,
How you doing today? Any improvement in how you feel?
Hope maybe things have settled a.but and this has been one of those dips that can affect us so much, physically and emotionally.
Hugs as always
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Thanks Sarah ☺️
It is a total minefield and one I cannot fathom out at all.
Maybe the coil is still settling, who knows. Maybe I need to up the oestrogen? Maybe I’m not absorbing? Maybe I’m terminally ill and haven’t realised.
Yesterday you cried and I thought I was dying ( felt so poorly). I really hope you feel better soon, honestly I do.
Chin up Sarah x
hi nas
i really wish i could make all this go away for you but all i can do is offer my support.
my sleep is still hitty missy, a work in progress i call it.
i hope you manage to figure out whats causing it all for you.
all my best wishes xxx
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Hi all,
Thankyou so much for your replies, they have helped immensely.
Monday was a better day thankfully. I am wondering whether it was the lenzetto which I applied on Friday night. I removed my patch due to it leaving black marks on my skin and gave myself 3 lenzetto sprays instead. My mood went downhill by Saturday morning and by Sunday, I was so angry and irritable!
Don’t think it’s the coil, given that’s been in since May last year.
Kathrine, you are so right about the sleep. Come Friday night, I’m shattered and often feel ‘off’ at the weekends. My sleep pattern is sketchy anyway, but I do think we underestimate how damaging lack of sleep is to that body and brain. Now to find a way of getting more restorative sleep!
Again, thankyou ladies, this forum is a life saver! 🥰🥰🥰😊
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your so right nas.
now if you find thst magical rainbow to restorative sleep, be sure to let me know!!
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Disco, you will be the first to know, trust me!!
How are you doing anway? X
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Disco, you will be the first to know, trust me!!
How are you doing anway? X
ooo you know i think ive nailed it then the next night... nope.
some nights i get to sleep no bother but wake up at 3am or 4am takes me a while to get back off but i manage it. so i could get 6 or even 7 hrs some nights.
but then like last night it took me ages to get off to sleep. if i go to sleep then wake up unless ive dream i dont always know if ive been asleep or not!!
i mean no pattern at all
you couldnt make it up could you.
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Oh discogirl,
You've just given me the biggest smile of my day.
Everyone I speak to seems to be having a crap time. Just awful. So you coming out and saying :
You couldn't make it up could you... well, kind of just sums up life at the moment.
Gotta keep going and wait for the better days.
Hugs
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Oh discogirl,
You've just given me the biggest smile of my day.
Everyone I speak to seems to be having a crap time. Just awful. So you coming out and saying :
You couldn't make it up could you... well, kind of just sums up life at the moment.
Gotta keep going and wait for the better days.
Hugs
aw SarahT
im so glad i made you smile. laughter is the best medicine.
my lovely supportive hubby said to me, in everything theres a beginning a middle and an end and i know for some of us this is a bloody long dark tunnel. we all just got to keep looking for the chink of light xxx