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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Booroo on November 24, 2022, 06:26:54 AM

Title: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 24, 2022, 06:26:54 AM
Update from previous thread am now taking topical oestrogen for va and so much better . Also got diagnosed pre diabetes but only just and slightly up on cholesterol both of which I chose diet and lifestyle over and doing a nhs course with it, ut the but that’s absolutely crippling me is anxiety panic and racing heart most of the time! Had ecg last week all absolutely fine no concerns not sleeping much cos like palpitations come and go ,have got hrt to start but been to scared to, no bleed naturally for good couple months and been feeling shite ever since. I hope to god that by starting the gel on lowest dose and also have progesterone for 2 weeks on cycle this will work, can anyone relate?
Have got cbt booked in December just literally going off head and shaking what a rubbish thing it is x
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: CLKD on November 24, 2022, 09:51:14 AM
Whilst anxiety can be caused by hormonal upheaval, if you are feeling so ill the ask your GP for a course of 'valium' - 5mg at night can help enormously.  Or Propranolol which can ease any cortisol surges in the morning.  U do not. have to suffer!

Which HRT have you been prescribed?
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Flossieteacake on November 24, 2022, 10:18:35 AM
Sorry to hear you have all this going on Booroo. Anxiety is such a horrid thing to have. I think it is great you are trying CBT. Often having some coping methods can be so helpful. I really hope it helps. I remember how much pain you were in due to the VA so what wonderful news it is to hear there has been improvement there for you.

I think we can all relate to how you are feeling. You are not alone so keep posting. We are here to support you.
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 24, 2022, 10:18:41 AM
I’ve got 0.5 sandrena I think it is and utrogesten think it’s called
Will see how this goes am hoping it will calm me down am feeling bit spaced on dose at mo
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 24, 2022, 10:19:52 AM
Flossieteacake yes had to give in in the end with va am hoping this will be the same, honestly nobody can prepare you for this fair ride can they?
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Flossieteacake on November 24, 2022, 10:21:26 AM
Flossieteacake yes had to give in in the end with va am hoping this will be the same, honestly nobody can prepare you for this fair ride can they?

I would have really loved to have been prepared for all this. I was utterly clueless and still am. ;D

VA needs life long treatment. Do not feel you have 'given in'. We all need treatment for it and should not have to put up with the pain it causes.
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 24, 2022, 10:27:58 AM
💯
Several of my friends say their anxiety is better so fingers crossed mine will be yoo
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Flossieteacake on November 24, 2022, 10:30:23 AM
💯
Several of my friends say their anxiety is better so fingers crossed mine will be yoo

I will keep my fingers crossed for you. :)
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: CLKD on November 24, 2022, 01:34:49 PM
It's not giving in  :-\ - if U R hungry, do you not eat?  If you have a gift to choose, do you not buy one - that's not giving in to commercialism but giving with love.  If you have pain ...... etc..  The Change - does what it says on the tin  ::) and is of course, natural.  Symptoms can be draining though.

Some find that keeping a mood/food/symptom diary of use.
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 24, 2022, 02:24:57 PM
Thank you for that x
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: CLKD on November 24, 2022, 03:31:38 PM
You are welcome!  It takes a while to get our heads round 'the change'  ::)
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 24, 2022, 03:35:57 PM
You are welcome!  It takes a while to get our heads round 'the change'  ::)

Like I said manual needed lol
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: CLKD on November 24, 2022, 04:06:11 PM
I think we are writing out own ...........  ::)
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 24, 2022, 04:16:31 PM
I think we are writing out own ...........  ::)
indeed we are
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: CLKD on November 24, 2022, 04:27:33 PM
??? door stop ???
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 25, 2022, 06:37:39 AM
Well that was disastrous, took the 2lots 100 utrogesten before bed felt sleepy yes but o my god woke in night with headache felt like I’d been hit by a sledgehammer cos makes you sleepy thought I was having a hypo so had food,bit panicky with it too, eventually now up but have ibs so straight to loo for number 2 and feel sick and still bit of headache. Taken paracetamol but absolutely not taking anymore of that or the oestrogen gel ,will ring doctor this morning to let them know. I k ow it says a side effect it really? Makes you feel shite and doesn’t do much for anxiety!
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 25, 2022, 06:38:15 AM
How long before it leaves my system if I don’t take anything else?
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: CLKD on November 25, 2022, 07:49:19 AM
Morning.  Side effects can be demoralising.  It was the same when I tried anti-depressant medication - it took 5 lots B4 we found 1 that didn't make me nauseous within hours  :-\.  Sorry, don't know how long it lasts in the system.  If 1 has to use it nightly, then probably not long.
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 25, 2022, 07:57:43 AM
Morning.  Side effects can be demoralising.  It was the same when I tried anti-depressant medication - it took 5 lots B4 we found 1 that didn't make me nauseous within hours  :-\.  Sorry, don't know how long it lasts in the system.  If 1 has to use it nightly, then probably not long.
Thank you x
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: CLKD on November 25, 2022, 08:01:52 AM
Do U have any plans for today, getting ready for the weekend ?
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 25, 2022, 08:22:31 AM
Do U have any plans for today, getting ready for the weekend ?
No lol done too much all week so be nice to me day xx what about you?
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Anne G on November 25, 2022, 09:39:55 AM
I can relate.  When I started oestrogel the anxiety and not sleeping abated really quickly.  You need estrogen in your system not just vaginally - get started on it.  :)
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 25, 2022, 10:29:00 AM
I can relate.  When I started oestrogel the anxiety and not sleeping abated really quickly.  You need estrogen in your system not just vaginally - get started on it.  :)
It wasn’t oestrogen that got me was progesterone
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Anne G on November 25, 2022, 10:35:52 AM
Ah okay sorry - I didn't read your earlier post.  Progesterone can definitely do that.  I've a friend who is much younger than me and definitely sensitive to progesterone.
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Flossieteacake on November 25, 2022, 11:11:48 AM
I am so sorry you had such a bad reaction. How are you feeling now?
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 25, 2022, 12:15:06 PM
I am so sorry you had such a bad reaction. How are you feeling now?
Rubbish but have spoken to gp
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Flossieteacake on November 25, 2022, 12:17:19 PM
I am so sorry you had such a bad reaction. How are you feeling now?
Rubbish but have spoken to gp

What did your GP say?
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 25, 2022, 01:34:48 PM
I am so sorry you had such a bad reaction. How are you feeling now?
Rubbish but have spoken to gp
She gave me other options if I wanted to but I have headache back feel dizzy and nausea still I know it’s side effects but my god can’t wait for it to go I’m a wreck

What did your GP say?
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Flossieteacake on November 25, 2022, 04:12:36 PM
I really am sorry. What a horrid reaction you have had. I hope you are able to rest today and it passes soon.
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 25, 2022, 04:24:00 PM
Thank you for your kind words so do I!
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Flossieteacake on November 25, 2022, 05:57:02 PM
Thank you for your kind words so do I!

We are here for you.  :foryou:
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 25, 2022, 05:59:56 PM
Thank you for your kind words so do I!

We are here for you.  :foryou:
❤️
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 28, 2022, 02:06:26 PM
Well side effects gone I think but anxiety through roof today !
I’ve done some meditation on calm but after I’ve done it’s back, why can I not seem to get a grip with it fgs x
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: CLKD on November 28, 2022, 03:01:35 PM
Anxiety can be eased by appropriate medication.  My GP prescribed Betablockas ....... and I have an emergency drug when necessary. 

How is your diet over all?
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 28, 2022, 03:51:15 PM
Anxiety can be eased by appropriate medication.  My GP prescribed Betablockas ....... and I have an emergency drug when necessary. 

How is your diet over all?
Diet is good and been diagnosed as pre diabetic which I expected as genetic in my family
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: CLKD on November 28, 2022, 04:01:27 PM
My recent blood tests have come back pre .......... cholesterol levels within normal limits  :-\

Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 28, 2022, 04:03:02 PM
My recent blood tests have come back pre .......... cholesterol levels within normal limits  :-\
O bugger really? My cholesterol was a wee bit higher than before so stopped having lurpak and croissant that should help!
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: CLKD on November 28, 2022, 04:44:06 PM
Bugga - I've felt sick since  :-\.  I have a finger of 'twirl' for pudding at lunch time and evening, plus ice cream and fruit juices through the day.  Need to review my whole intake - that'll be the box of Blackmagic off the C.mas list then  >:(

I do feel fatter though  :-\ ..........

At least my anxiety has been OK ..........  ::)
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: Booroo on November 28, 2022, 07:50:44 PM
Bugga - I've felt sick since  :-\.  I have a finger of 'twirl' for pudding at lunch time and evening, plus ice cream and fruit juices through the day.  Need to review my whole intake - that'll be the box of Blackmagic off the C.mas list then  >:(

I do feel fatter though  :-\ ..........

At least my anxiety has been OK ..........  ::)
🙈 if it’s not me thing it’s something else!
Title: Re: Can’t stick this much more grr
Post by: CLKD on November 28, 2022, 08:27:27 PM
>sigh<  :-\