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Title: Colon cancer
Post by: skkb on October 25, 2022, 08:29:45 PM
3 or 4 days of rectal bleeding, nothing since Saturday. Doctor doing blood tests Thursday and referral thereafter. No pain, weight loss, diarrhoea or constipation, no bloating or lumps and bumps. Could be internal haemorrhoids or ??…..goodness knows when I’ll get the referral appointment….so scared
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: CLKD on October 25, 2022, 08:45:43 PM
What does your GP suggest that the waiting list might be?  Did he/she mention colon cancer?
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: skkb on October 25, 2022, 09:28:39 PM
No, he said most likely internal haemorrhoids but they are difficult to see or feel (he did check) so in cases of unexplained bleeding they always go down the referral route. Normally this would be approximately a two week wait but because of the backlog it could be longer. I asked about going private but he didn’t think it would be much/if any quicker!! Of course I’ve googled…..which comes up with loads. No other symptoms and so far no more bleeding which I’m hoping is a good thing but I guess it could happen again which will completely freak me out…..
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: Lyncola on October 26, 2022, 07:52:47 AM
Hi skkb,
As a long term hemorrhoids internally and externally on and off for about 15 years and two years of fissure.
Can I ask does it bleed when you poop?
Do you have pain when you poop?
Do you have pain though out the day?
With a fissure or hemorrhoids bleeding can happen when you poop, it should be a bright red colour. It can be on the paper as you wipe or along one side of your poop. You might see some in the toilet bowl. I have been known to fart blood and I’ve had a strange little feeling in my ass, check my underwear and blood on it. My doctor tells me this is all normal for me with my problems.
A fissure is very painful “like pooping glass” horrendous when you poop. Pain only for a couple of hours after you pooped, my was all day.
External hemorrhoids you can feel a painful pea like size outside your anus.
Internal hemorrhoids can give you pain all day as well as external hemorrhoids.

After two years off a fissure that wouldn’t heal, and surgeon who refused to do Botox or a operation, I was told learn to live with it. I decided I’ll had nothing to loose and tried a American product call Pranicara, and it heal my fissure and I’m more comfortable again, I also have a post in the private member’s on this forum called “Piles, Fissure and anything to do with a sore ass” that I’ve started each might be interesting for you.
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: CLKD on October 26, 2022, 08:29:20 AM
So you trust Dr GOOGLE  :-\

The reason it may not be quicker to see a Surgeon privately is due to him/her working part-time in the NHS and using his days off to treat private patients.

Could you take a sudden appt if someone else cancels?
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: skkb on October 26, 2022, 08:48:52 AM
Thanks Lyncola. No pain and no more bleeding since Saturday. Stool this morning appears perfectly normal. Blood tests tomorrow then referral presumably for a colonoscopy. Took naproxen for 2 weeks which made me constipated so took laxatives one evening before bed, loose poo over the next 24 hours and then the bleeding, nothing since. No other symptoms
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: CLKD on October 26, 2022, 08:51:49 AM
How do U feel this morning?  Does the GP know about your medication, certainly you should consider telling the staff B4 the scan.
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: skkb on October 26, 2022, 08:54:38 AM
CKLD. I’ve spoken to Bupa this morning about private care. £200/£200 consultation, 8 November earliest appointment, tests extra, colonoscopy £2250 ….2 to 4 weeks ahead but could be longer…..which could be about the same as the NHS !! We’re due to go away in 5 weeks time  :'(
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: skkb on October 26, 2022, 08:56:46 AM
Feel perfectly fine this morning, normal toilet time, no I didn’t mention the naproxen or laxatives….yes I should have done, but the naproxen would be on my records as the surgery prescribed them !!
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: Limpy on October 26, 2022, 09:42:56 AM
Feel perfectly fine this morning, normal toilet time, no I didn’t mention the naproxen or laxatives….yes I should have done, but the naproxen would be on my records as the surgery prescribed them !!
It would be nice to think so wouldn't it though it doesn't seem to work like that!
Best mention it specifically at any further appointment.
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: discogirl on October 26, 2022, 10:35:22 AM
3 or 4 days of rectal bleeding, nothing since Saturday. Doctor doing blood tests Thursday and referral thereafter. No pain, weight loss, diarrhoea or constipation, no bloating or lumps and bumps. Could be internal haemorrhoids or ??…..goodness knows when I’ll get the referral appointment….so scared

hi skkb

i just wanted to reassure you really.

a good number of years back i had rectal
bleeding. i was very concerned obviously
turns out it was internal haemerroids.

i had a colonoscopy but everything fine xxxx
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: skkb on October 26, 2022, 11:33:33 AM
Thanks Discogirl, yes that’s reassuring……that is what the doctor thought the most likely but any unexplained bleeding should be investigated, which is good. Just hope I don’t have to wait long for an appointment but with is going away in 5 weeks time, then Christmas and New Year if I decided to wait it could be January and wouldn’t want to wait that long. If the blood tests come back early next week and the doctor has sent the referral letter I can only keep my fingers crossed for an early appointment
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: CLKD on October 26, 2022, 11:39:32 AM
My Consultant always told patients to go away on holiday, that a few days wouldn't make a lot of difference to the outcome.

However, when diagnosed with breast disease I wanted to get on with treatment etc..  Even if the medication is on your records, if the GP isn't reading back far enough ?? that's the problem with records kept on computer  >:(.
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: skkb on October 26, 2022, 12:07:07 PM
Hi CLKD, I only had the naproxen 27 September for a knee injury so he may have spotted it on the computer but I should have told him about the constipation and laxatives. We’re away for 3 weeks, returning just days before Christmas so I think any appointment, if I were to go away, wouldn’t be until January 2023 …….which could be a 3 month lag  :-\
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: skkb on October 26, 2022, 12:36:01 PM
Lyncola where do I find your “Piles etc posts…..?
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: skkb on October 26, 2022, 01:31:52 PM
It’s ok Lyncola…I’ve found it
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: CLKD on October 26, 2022, 01:48:25 PM
So ring the Dept and ask what the waiting list is and check if the referral has in fact, been sent!  A friend of mine waited 2 months to find on asking that the referral was still on the GPs desk  >:(.  R U able to take a cancellation appt., if so tell the Dept..  It means that the slot isn't wasted when someone cancels/fails to attend.
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: jaypo on October 26, 2022, 02:13:13 PM
Hi,where abouts in the country are you skkb? I had a private colonoscopy done and I was nowhere near that,shop around for private healthcare. I went to a private hospital in Bath and was taken in two weeks. Just to reiterate what folks are saying,blood in poo,abnormal FIT test,got the all clear,internal haemorrhoid x
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: skkb on November 08, 2022, 01:43:52 PM
No complaints with the NHS. I saw the doctor 2 weeks ago today, Tuesday, had blood tests on the Thursday, results back on the Monday and the same had received a telephone call from the hospital, they’d had a cancellation and could I come in the next day (which was only a week later) for an endoscopy……in actual fact it turned out to be a sigmoidoscopy which unfortunately couldn’t be completed as the enama hadn’t completely cleared the bowel…..was really disappointed but I was given an appointment for 9th November (tomorrow) to have the procedure in the evening after a day taking their “drinks” for total colonic irrigation!! Quiteanxious but haven’t had any further symptoms and blood results were normal. Be glad when it’d over
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: jaypo on November 08, 2022, 02:49:49 PM
Good luck for tomorrow,I'm sure all will be ok  :)
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: CLKD on November 08, 2022, 03:05:28 PM
Preparation is often the most difficult part of the procedure.  Good Luck!
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: Ayesha on November 08, 2022, 05:11:34 PM
Hi skkp

I had my colonoscopy today and had a wobble during because of my anxiety but sedation will help with this, and the procedure doesn't last too long.
you're not alone when it comes to being anxious, its normal and the staff are prepared for it.

You have now started your prep which is the worse part of the procedure but if you drink it all, yuk I know, it will give a lovely clear picture of your bowel.
Putting the mix in the fridge helps, I had mango flavour, but definitely better straight out of the fridge. Also drink lots of water in between as it's important not to become dehydrated.
Knickers with two panty liners on at all times, even in bed through the night, gives security!

Best of luck for tomorrow, X 
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: CLKD on November 08, 2022, 05:24:31 PM
How long B4 you get the results Ayesha?
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: skkb on November 08, 2022, 06:58:59 PM
Thanks Ayesha, I also have mango but start my first drink at 6am then the second at 9am tomorrow……procedure is at 5pm….it’s going to be a fun day. I’ll see tomorrow if I want a sedative. Been drinking lots today….yes nervous
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: CLKD on November 08, 2022, 07:09:50 PM
 :-\.  many of my smiles have disappeared  >:(

Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: skkb on November 08, 2022, 08:10:16 PM
I hope I have plenty of smiles by this time tomorrow……
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: CLKD on November 08, 2022, 08:38:39 PM
I was going to send you a smilie 'flowers'  ::)

Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: jaypo on November 09, 2022, 08:18:58 AM
It's horrible when a procedure is so late in the day  :(
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: Ayesha on November 09, 2022, 11:40:41 AM
How long B4 you get the results Ayesha?
Mine was a recall from the Bowel Cancer Screening programme and they give you the results straight after the procedure.
They didn't find any problems but glad I did the test even if it plays havoc with your nerves!

skkb, I was thinking of you this morning as you started on the dreaded preparation but at least you get it over and done with in one day!
 
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: skkb on November 09, 2022, 12:48:39 PM
Oh Ayesha thankyou, I started my prep at 6am and have been tied to the loo ever since, just hope it calms down to give me enough time to get to the hospital for 5pm, that’s my concern, otherwise this prep regime IS JUST AWFUL!!
Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: CLKD on November 09, 2022, 12:56:39 PM
As well as wondering whether you will 'get there' B4 needing the loo, which will hike any anxiety!

Title: Re: Colon cancer
Post by: Ayesha on November 09, 2022, 01:16:47 PM
Oh Ayesha thankyou, I started my prep at 6am and have been tied to the loo ever since, just hope it calms down to give me enough time to get to the hospital for 5pm, that’s my concern, otherwise this prep regime IS JUST AWFUL!!

By the time you get to leaving for the hospital and you have taken all the liquid, all that comes away should be a clear fluid from the bowel, so not too disastrous if you have an accident.
I got stuck in the usual London traffic jams and was very much regretting not taking spare knickers and liners with me, but they were not needed, anxiety can be a damn nuisance! I didn't even need to visit the loo when I got there and only went when I got back home.

I hope it all goes well for you X