Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: discogirl on October 16, 2022, 02:55:38 PM
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Hi all,
I'm on 37.5mcg estraderm patches and I take 100g utro every day vaginally.
I take the utro PV, I prefer it this way as it lessens side effects.
Problem is my anxiety is pretty full on, has been for a while, 24/7, is this anything to do with the utro, as I thought
taking it PV, it wouldn't be?
And if it is the utro could i take it every other day, PV
thanks xx
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I am so sorry your anxiety has flared up. It is possible to try a different progesterone? I know that wont be easy as it will mean another change for you. I know some women take ultrogestan as little as they can and have regular scans instead.
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hi flossieteacake
lovely to hear from you.
id rather not change the utro just yet and yes i was thinking of every other day with the utro.
i just thought taking it pv would lessen side effects and i dont think the estrogen patches are doung this do you xxxx
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hi flossieteacake
lovely to hear from you.
id rather not change the utro just yet and yes i was thinking of every other day with the utro.
i just thought taking it pv would lessen side effects and i dont think the estrogen patches are doung this do you xxxx
I would not have thought it was the patches. Progesterone often causes anxiety sadly. I can understand you not wanting to try another with all you have been though. Hopefully another member will be along soon with advice on reducing the ultrogestan. :)
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Hi discogirl, sorry to hear your anxiety has flared up. HRT didn’t cause anxiety for me as such so I’m not sure how that would affect you. For me I get anxiety when I’m not sleeping well or looking after myself properly or something has happened in the past that I haven’t processed. Actually just remembered I found that when I took oestrogen before bed it made me restless and a bit anxious but when I switched to taking it in the morning I was ok. I’ve only tried utrogestan so I’m not sure about the progesterone…
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hi flossieteacake
lovely to hear from you.
id rather not change the utro just yet and yes i was thinking of every other day with the utro.
i just thought taking it pv would lessen side effects and i dont think the estrogen patches are doung this do you xxxx
I would not have thought it was the patches. Progesterone often causes anxiety sadly. I can understand you not wanting to try another with all you have been though. Hopefully another member will be along soon with advice on reducing the ultrogestan. :)
thanks floosieteacake hope your keeping well xxxx
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Hi discogirl, sorry to hear your anxiety has flared up. HRT didn’t cause anxiety for me as such so I’m not sure how that would affect you. For me I get anxiety when I’m not sleeping well or looking after myself properly or something has happened in the past that I haven’t processed. Actually just remembered I found that when I took oestrogen before bed it made me restless and a bit anxious but when I switched to taking it in the morning I was ok. I’ve only tried utrogestan so I’m not sure about the progesterone…
hi katherine
im on patches and i change those mornings twice weekly.
im on utro and i take it pv. its probably the utro but i just thought taking it pv would lessen those types of side effects xxxx
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Hi it’s likely to be that your oestrogen isn’t high enough and not anything to do with the progesterone. Did you feel anxious before you started HRT? x
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hi dotty
nice to hear from you.
i did have anxiety before i started hrt yes
xxx
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Hi if the anxiety was there before hrt then it’s likely to be due to low oestrogen and not a side effect of the progesterone x
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thanks dotty.
i appreciate that.
i thought it may have been that.
my anxiety has been pretty bad lately.
i really appreciate your and flossieteacakes advice.
you are both always there for me.
i hope you are keeping well dotty xxxx
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I’m ok thanks Discogirl xx
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Hi discogirl, have you tried supplementing with magnesium? I find it really does take the edge off anxiety and makes me sleep much better. X
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Hi katherine,
Yes I've been taking magnesium bisglycinate for quite some time.
It's a very useful supplement.
I find that my anxiety is high during the day, as evening comes it does tend to ease off a bit.
I only take two magnesium before bed, so I do have room to take one during the day if I need to, that is always an option.
Thanks so much for taking the time to reply, I really appreciate it.
I hope you're doing okay xxxx
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You’re very welcome discogirl, you were there for me when I needed it. I also feel more relaxed in the evenings. I feel most anxious in the morning and by 1pm I feel lots better. I think it might be to do with our cortisol cycles which I think is highest in the morning and then drops as the day goes on. Xxxx
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I would echo what Dotty has said - that is a low dose of oestrogen you are taking and I would bet you are in need of more. x
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You’re very welcome discogirl, you were there for me when I needed it. I also feel more relaxed in the evenings. I feel most anxious in the morning and by 1pm I feel lots better. I think it might be to do with our cortisol cycles which I think is highest in the morning and then drops as the day goes on. Xxxx
Hi Katherine
Thanks for that.
I think you're right regarding cortisol surges, however mine seems to stay really really high at the moment.
I messed about with my patch strength as well so I donn't think that helped.
we are here for each other xxxx
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I would echo what Dotty has said - that is a low dose of oestrogen you are taking and I would bet you are in need of more. x
Hi Gnatty,
Dotty has been a great help to me.
I messed about with my patch strength recently, so I don't think that helped things.
I am staying on 37.5mcg for the next couple of months as I don't want to change patch strengths again and just want a bit consistency so I will see how i get on. However, low estrogen does seem to be the culprit.
I want to slowly work my way to 50mcg as I think it would be better for my body.
Thanks so much for your reply Gnatty and I hope you're keeping okay xxx
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Watching this with interest. My anxiety is through the roof, especially health anxiety. I am on Evorel 50/Conti. Thought I would be better on HRT, but it doesn't feel like this is the case at all.
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Hi
Just wanted to say I'm the same as you ... on hrt ( Evorel Conti) but anxiety ( particularly health anxiety) is currently through the roof ! No advice for you unfortunately but just know you are are definitely not alone in this ! Xx
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Ladies
My anxiety has been awful. Doctor advised increasing oestrogen. Felt worse. Did some research about progesterone and decided to increase it. I honestly feel 100% better today! I slept well and feel calmer. I’ll try and link the article from the neuroscientist about progesterone.
Xx
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Hello ladies.
Nik2502 - thank you for reporting a very interesting finding.
If you can provide any more information about the article that would be excellent and my appreciated.
Take care and wishing you well.
K.
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Gosh so nice to read it isn't just me! Do you find that is worse in the mornings? The mornings are awful for me with anxiety and palpitations, feeling of impending doom etc. Just horrible. Just started HRT so hoping it might help? I and on one pill with both hormones and testosterone. Fingers crossed!
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I had bad cortisol surges which would wake me any time after 3.15 a.m. Leaving me intensely, prehensile frightened. Couldn't. move initially then had to get dressed and sit in the lounge; staring at the fire place. :'(. In 2002 GP gave me Propranolol which helped for years.
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Yes I am waking really early too. As you say then just horrible feelings and just staring at the tv wishing them to pass. Crying for no reason, don't think it helps that it is getting colder now and it is dark in the early hours so you feel so alone. I know if I woke my partner he would sit with me in a heartbeat but what do you say? I am scared feel awful and exhausted and I cannot tell you why.
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Hormonal upheaval G. So many coursing through the body which becomes upset during peri-menopause.
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Ladies
My anxiety has been awful. Doctor advised increasing oestrogen. Felt worse. Did some research about progesterone and decided to increase it. I honestly feel 100% better today! I slept well and feel calmer. I’ll try and link the article from the neuroscientist about progesterone.
Xx
This is really interesting Nik2502, which progesterone are you taking and how much did you increase it by?
I’d be very interested to read the article .
Thanks
2cats
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G
Absolutely with you on that