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Menopause Discussion => Postmenopause => Topic started by: Rocky on September 04, 2022, 01:26:04 PM

Title: Vaginal cream
Post by: Rocky on September 04, 2022, 01:26:04 PM
Hello, I am 69 and was prescribed vaginal estrogen as I am still having sex which made my vagina sore and bleed a little bit. My partner recently cannot have sex so I stopped using the cream. I have experienced drenching night sweats, PJs sheets, hair etc. could this be because I stopped the estrogen?
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: CLKD on September 04, 2022, 01:38:02 PM
Hi!  Vaginal atrophy treatment should be used on a continual basis for ever.  Initially it's for 2-3 weeks nightly, followed by as necessary: recommended is every 3/4th and 5/6th night.  Some require it nightly as well as a moisturiser or 'ovestin' for the labia to stop the skin thinning = itching.

What are your periods doing?  Mine waxed and waned for several years B4 stopping, which is when peri-menopause symtoms might start.  As oestrogen levels drop the body may become dry: inside and out; skin, scalp, deep in the ears, nostrils, vagina as well as muscles may become lax = aches and pains. 

Some find that keeping a mood/food/symptom diary of use.  Browse round.  Make notes ;-)
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Flossieteacake on September 04, 2022, 01:43:26 PM
Hello Rocky. Welcome to the forum. I agree with CLKD. You will need to use the cream forever. Not using the cream should not have made you have night sweats. That is usually helped with HRT. Are you taking any HRT at all?
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Ayesha on September 04, 2022, 02:28:33 PM
Agree with the comments above, don't stop using the cream, as mentioned it is for life and Vaginal Atrophy will turn into a chronic condition if not treated.
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Rocky on September 04, 2022, 05:04:10 PM
Thanks for the replies. I will carry on with the cream. As I am 69 not on HRT, but from what you are saying the night sweats could be hormonal? I thought it might be the hot weather but don’t think that would cause drenching.
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Ayesha on September 04, 2022, 05:31:50 PM
I would say that it's definitely hot flushes you are experiencing, a horrible side effect of the menopause.
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Wrensong on September 04, 2022, 05:36:21 PM
Hello Rocky & welcome to the forum.  I agree with the others that regardless of whether intimacy is a factor, continuing with the vaginal oestrogen should help you stay comfortable & prevent further troublesome deterioration of the urogenital tract that so many of us experience as we age.  If your night sweats are not easing as the very hot weather has passed though, I would also mention to your GP that these have recently started as there can be other reasons for them that he/she may want to check out for you.
Wx
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: CLKD on September 04, 2022, 05:50:43 PM
69 doesn't mean that you can't be prescribed HRT if necessary :-)
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Rocky on September 06, 2022, 09:19:04 AM
Hi again, just looked at the  leaflet inside the box, and it does say it is an HRT preparation with all the risks, and the gynacologist who prescribed it said to me, be careful, don’t take too much as it is HRT. So I guess that answers my question, as weather much cooler but still bad  nights sweats. I will continue with it and see how things go.
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Ayesha on September 06, 2022, 09:59:17 AM
Don't worry about the leaflet, it's well known that using HRT vaginally is safe with much less risk of causing any issues.
My leaflet goes straight in the bin, Vaginal Atrophy is not something you can live with unfortunately, so treatment it is!
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Flossieteacake on September 06, 2022, 10:02:05 AM
Ayesha is right. I wish they got rid of those leaflets as it only scares people. You can use the cream every single day. How odd a gyno would warn you about it. It is very mild and not dangerous.
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Diamonds and pearls 53 on September 07, 2022, 07:37:58 PM
I agree with Ayesha and Flossieteacake, ignore the leaflet and use your Ovestin daily if you need too.  l am the same age as you and am still on hrt, l also use Ovestin as and when l need it.
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Pippa52 on September 09, 2022, 01:02:11 PM
Hi I am 69! (Hysterectomy and no ovaries) and am on Oestrogel HRT. I have just also been prescribed Ovestin and still continue with love making with my Husband. I find HRT makes a massive difference to my life and whether I was still sexually active or not I would definitely still take it I think. So sorry to hear of the symptoms you are experiencing they really are so debilitating and I do hope that you start to feel better soon x
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Rocky on September 20, 2022, 10:15:32 AM
Thank you ladies for all your advice. Will continue back on the vaginal cream, I realise it will take a while to work. xx
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: CLKD on September 20, 2022, 11:48:08 AM
Rocky - Quality of Life is important.  Some menopause Doctors are trying to get those leaflets in the various VA treatment boxes altered !  I never read any leaflets in boxes other than Paracetamol  ;)
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Rocky on September 20, 2022, 09:08:04 PM
It seems I am now having a bout of IBS and having looked it up, there seems to be a link with IBS and low estrogen. Anyone else found this?
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Rocky on September 20, 2022, 09:12:15 PM
Does VA cause bad pain in the lower abdomen/ lower back pain please, was thinking I have IBS  but could be wrong.
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Flossieteacake on September 21, 2022, 08:23:12 AM
Which symptoms do you have that you think could be IBS? I have IBS myself.
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Rocky on September 21, 2022, 11:38:34 AM
Chronic pain in abdomen and lower back, not relieved by pain killers. No runniness or constipation to speak of. I don’t have a womb so no,pain there. Mood pretty low with the pain.
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Flossieteacake on September 21, 2022, 11:39:54 AM
Chronic pain in abdomen and lower back, not relieved by pain killers. No runniness or constipation to speak of. I don’t have a womb so no,pain there. Mood pretty low with the pain.

I feel IBS is more related to triggers such as food or stress and usually you notice changes in bowl movements.

I am so sorry you are feeling low due to pain. Have you told your GP what is going on?
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: CLKD on September 21, 2022, 12:27:52 PM
Laxity of muscles can cause pains as you describe, if they aren't relieved by medication do see your GP or Nurse Practitioner. 

VA treatment may cause pains initially. 

For me IBS is slow transit .......... which causes bloating and nausea.  Never noticed that hormone fluctuations have altered symptoms.

Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Ayesha on September 21, 2022, 03:57:31 PM
It could very well by muscular if the pain is chronic, it's so typical of muscle pain but get it checked out if the pain continues.
Title: Re: Vaginal cream
Post by: Rocky on September 21, 2022, 06:32:31 PM
Thanks again for the posts, have done some research, and yes, there is a link between low estrogen levels and IBS, the science is a bit unclear, but there are plenty articles.