Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Vicky81 on September 04, 2022, 09:46:03 AM
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Hi all me again, so sorry to post again but I just no longer know what to do...reaching out for answers I guess.
Feel at a loss with it all.
I wonder if someone would be so kind as to let me know why I felt really good (no low mood or anxiety, no low energy) on the day I got my pill break bleed (after waiting 7 days for it to come)
What exactly was happening with me hormones at this stage? Just so I'm kind of aware of how to go forward?
At this point I feel so down like I don't want to be here anymore...gets u that way I guess x
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I think that this has been explained to you in your other threads :-\
If you are suicidal do ring the Samaritans or contact your local MIND Charity who often have walk-in Centres; or contact your GP. Hormones can cause huge emotional upheavals so your feelings should be dealt with today if possible.
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Vicky, I am so very sorry to hear you are feeling so distressed. Menopause is such a nightmare and it is so difficult to understand it all. Do you think you may be putting too much pressure on yourself to feel well? I can imagine if you used to feel positive and no longer then this is a huge shock to you. I was wondering if it is possible for you to take a more slower pace with it all. I totally understand you want to feel good but I think you not feeling as you want to may be stressing you out.
I think it is natural to have good and bad days and sometimes there are no reasons for this. I remember one therapist telling me it is okay to feel low for no apparent reason and everybody has times like this.
I agree with CLKD about contacting services to tell them you are feeling suicidal. Please do not ignore this. Does your partner know you are feeling like this?
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Thanks both. Yes I tell him how I'm feeling. Its just very disheartening when you feel so good one day ....then all the crap feelings come back.
Flossie- yes you are so correct. I am finding it hard with the change...as I was to who I am now....I'm a miserable sod with no go in me.
Anyway thank you 4 your replies xxx
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Thanks both. Yes I tell him how I'm feeling. Its just very disheartening when you feel so good one day ....then all the crap feelings come back.
Flossie- yes you are so correct. I am finding it hard with the change...as I was to who I am now....I'm a miserable sod with no go in me.
Anyway thank you 4 your replies xxx
Vicky you are being hard on yourself. I am sorry you feel miserable. You have good reason to though. Menopause is such a battle especially when hormones are not stable. You have had so many HRT changes and this is bound to be making your body confused.
How are you feeling now? I am glad your partner knows how you feel.
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Thanks flossie.
I'm ok just had shower. Thank you so much for taking the time to message me xx
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Thanks flossie.
I'm ok just had shower. Thank you so much for taking the time to message me xx
I am worried about you. To feel this way is so distressing. I am glad you were able to have a shower. Are you alone today?
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Awww it's OK. No partner is here. Please don't worry...I just been feeling so down lately thst whatever answers you think you've found turn out to not get you anywhere xxx
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Awww it's OK. No partner is here. Please don't worry...I just been feeling so down lately thst whatever answers you think you've found turn out to not get you anywhere xxx
I am glad your partner is with you. It is totally understandable to feel down. It is so frustrating trying to find the right HRT or medication and just experience more horrid symptoms.
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Vicky, I totally understand where you are coming from.
As you know, I too have been trying to balance this peri nonsense for a long long time. I've had days where I feel like you are today. >:(
Just try and accept it is a phase, it's not the real you feeling this. Hopefully if will pass.
How long have you been on this particular pill now? X
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Do you do any exercise? I know it is one doctors always go on about but walking really helps me on bad days. I am going on one today come rain or shine as it helps my palpitations and the stress of dealing with my mother!
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Hi crispy- thanks 4 your message. Yes I know....that feeling is awful. Like nothing to live for.
Tinkerbell- I do try....I agree a walk or a little jog does seem to boost me up a bit. But I can't at mo as lower back is in pain xxx
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Vicky this peri mood pendulum it is so draining during a down phase. The thing to hold onto is that mega downs are not permanent. They will even out into feeling really quite good - an up so to speak. Hold onto those happy phases - remember the downs will pass.
It's good that you have a partner who listens, it really does help when they understand what's going on.
Tinkerbell makes a very good point about exercise. For me it helped me escape from myself - distraction I suppose.
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Hi limpy- thank you 4 your message.
I will hang onto those thoughts....nothing can last forever I guess! Xxx
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I think that this has been explained to you in your other threads :-\
If you are suicidal do ring the Samaritans or contact your local MIND Charity who often have walk-in Centres; or contact your GP. Hormones can cause huge emotional upheavals so your feelings should be dealt with today if possible.
CLKD perhaps the point is that Vicky is feeling bad and wants help right now. She may not remember posts made in the past.
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Thanks limpy....true enough, just get yourself intoa pickle at times with all this you kind of forget...
Thanks CLKD for taking the time to reply....I'm ok though now
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Dr Kathleen Dalton did a lot of research with ladies who suffered severe hormonal upheaval - might be worth while contacting NAPS - how is your diet over all Vicky81? Low blood sugar can cause intense ups and downs.
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this may be total misinformation (not a doctor, not a scientist!), but, if you feel better once you get your bleed, that might be due to a drop in progesterone?? i think, in a natural cycle, it's this drop that initiates the bleed
i was diagnosed with PMDD when i had periods and felt horrendous the week building up to bleed- so for me it was a sensitivity to increasing proesterone during trhe week before bleedng, resolved by the bleed itself (and therefore the decrease in prog)
i did try a chemical menopause which removed all sex hormones but ynfortunately didnt work for me as also very sesitive to low oestrogen
sorry- not much help, but just wanted you to know that you're not alone and f course it's not an issue for me now i'm menopausal and without periods!!
sending posiive vibes, hang on in there
oh and agree with tinkerbell re exercise- i wish i'd done it!! i think i'dhave had a much better experience- am tryingnow but hard work now menopausal. i know you said your back bad- so i hope it gets btter soon and you can do something it's my biggest regret- not exercising and not eating healthily- i'veeaten utter crap the last couple decades!!- but am addressing it now, there's still time!! xx
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Every experience is helpful vintagefiend so don't knock your comments 8)
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I agree with Vintagefiend, the fact that you get relief when your bleed starts definitely suggests this is some form of pms or even pmdd. Even though I'm postmenopausal and therefore get most of my hormones from HRT, I still have that underlying natural pattern and have found agnus castus very helpful (I think I've mentioned it to you before). I have it prescribed to me at the meno clinic and it definitely helps keep things on an even keel.
Also agree about exercise - it's vital and if you have a painful back even more so, as is practising some kind of relaxation tecnhique - there are loads of really good mediation sources, Insight Timer app is free and has so many types that there is something to suit everyone.
Yoga is also great but really any exercise that you like doing whether dancing, walking, weights, boxing, qigong will help body and soul.
As I recently mentioned on another post, my meno clinic at Chelsea & Westminster actually 'prescribes' me Meditation, yoga and diet in the section of my follow-up letter right below the dosage of estrogel etc.
In another words they should be part and parcel of any treatment.
Hope you feel better
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Do U feel better as the day progresses?
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Wow thank you so very much for your replies.
Yes I did/do have pmdd.....but this only came on when I was around 35/36....I noticed that the week leading up to my period I'd get so tired I'd have to sleep.. then mood swings galore. Then peri hit when I turned 40 last year.
Makes sense now. So I'm guessing that I've done the right thing choosing an oestrogen dominant birth control pill?
And what happened to me on my good day was the fact that my progesterone went low and my oestrogen was higher?
Xxx
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I developed pre menstrual syndrome in my mid-30s. I was advised to eat every 3 hours and found slow release foods really helpful. Certainly if I forgot to munch I felt really, really ill.
Don't over think? Keep a note of what you are taking, eating, drinking and how you feel.
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Thanks CLKD I will do x
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..... and breath ;-)
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Sending hugs to all...thank you xxxx
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Hi Vicky
So sorry to hear you have been having such a rough time my heart goes out to you it really does. I am so glad that you have this site for support but please reach out to your GP or the Samaritans etc if you need some professional help. Don#t suffer alone. Sending love and hugs
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Awww pippa thanks alot....sending love and hugs back. I'd be lost without this site xxx
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hi vicky
just read your post.
you are not alone and every woman on this site is behind you.
i know you don't feel it now but the sun will shine again.
im in a dark place myself but i know i will get through it and so will you.
more love and hugs xxxxxx
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Awwww disco girl....thank you!! How sweet are you....I hope you are ok? Here if u need a chat xxx
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same here vicky anytime xxxx
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Nitey Vicky, sleep well love x
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Aww same to you xxxx
Sleep well xxx
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How do U feel this morning?
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Vicky, I know how tough it can get and I'm feeling so unwell at minute due to insomnia and feeling so shattered. Had first meltdown cry to hubby this morning as feel so unwell. You are not alone, these times happen in meno and can be overwhelming. I'm trying to be kind to myself today and not overthink things and trying to rest today... Hope you are feeling more settled today.
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Hi Vicky, I really hope you have been better today ❤ I have been thinking about you.
I don't know if my situation would be a help to you, but I have stopped all hormones atm to see exactly where I am in this stupid journey of peri 🙄 I feel you, it all sucks.
I had been taking gel and utro since March and it was gradually increased by my gp. My GP thinks I'm not on enough gel 🙄. I thought I was improving 1 minute then my symptoms ramped up ten fold. I really think, for myself at the moment, adding more hormones to my constant swinging hormones was making me feel worse maybe 🤷♀️ who knows! Pounding heart and the anxiety it brought is my worse symptom.
I have now been off my hrt for 2 weeks now and started Fluoxetine, just to see if that helps. I'm laying off all hormones for the time being to see where I am at and taking a day at a time.
What I'm trying to say is have you thought about just laying off the hormones/pill for while and just taking your AD just to see what is what? It's just a thought.
I'm not ruling out hrt in the future, but sometimes we need to go back 'to the drawing board' ❤