Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Rainy kelly on August 12, 2022, 04:32:15 AM
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Hi ladies .
Anyone else suffering from anxiety in waves ... suffered from panics and anxiety for years when younger on and off .. often a trigger ..over doing things and tiredness etc .. but have coped and managed with that and I'm 52 now so I've done ok ... but now perimen and the anxiety is pretty Constant ... been to the point of tears and pacing the house some days.. other days its just a wave of anxiety.. literally feel goose pimples coming up my arms across my chest then the heat!🥵 ..at my worst I've taken paroxatine (old packet in cupboard) to just calm me for a few days .. and half of one really does chill me out .. then had 4 ot 5 great days and boom it creeps back...I take magnesium glycinate ( after lots of research !) And magnesium spray... both help immensely with anxiety( I think🤔!) .
Im thinking it's the meno doing it but don't know anyone with the same sort of symptom...ive recently gone back on everol sequi 50 ...( started back in 2019 but then docs couldn't get them and tablets didn't agree with me so winged since then) on week 3 and on the proges part of the patch now ..keeping a diary to try to see if there is a pattern and also to keep me focused and sane(ish)🤪..
Wondering if anyone has any other tricks to get the anxiety wobbles under control .. maybe patches need to be stronger ? ..
Tell me I'm not the only one 🙏
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Hi ladies .
Anyone else suffering from anxiety in waves ... suffered from panics and anxiety for years when younger on and off .. often a trigger ..over doing things and tiredness etc .. but have coped and managed with that and I'm 52 now so I've done ok ... but now perimen and the anxiety is pretty Constant ... been to the point of tears and pacing the house some days.. other days its just a wave of anxiety.. literally feel goose pimples coming up my arms across my chest then the heat!🥵 ..at my worst I've taken paroxatine (old packet in cupboard) to just calm me for a few days .. and half of one really does chill me out .. then had 4 ot 5 great days and boom it creeps back...I take magnesium glycinate ( after lots of research !) And magnesium spray... both help immensely with anxiety( I think🤔!) .
Im thinking it's the meno doing it but don't know anyone with the same sort of symptom...ive recently gone back on everol sequi 50 ...( started back in 2019 but then docs couldn't get them and tablets didn't agree with me so winged since then) on week 3 and on the proges part of the patch now ..keeping a diary to try to see if there is a pattern and also to keep me focused and sane(ish)🤪..
Wondering if anyone has any other tricks to get the anxiety wobbles under control .. maybe patches need to be stronger ? ..
Tell me I'm not the only one 🙏
You are not the only one. As you have found paroxatine helps then maybe you would benefit from taking it regularly? The anxiety you describe is awful for you. I do not think you should have to put up with that.
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Morning. My 1st panic attack was at age 3. I suffered in varying degrees since.
In the 1990s Valium helped - GP prescribed 10 mg 3 times a day for 2 weeks followed by 2 x 5mg daily then as necessary. It worked for me. Now I have an emergency tablet to take when anxiety over whelms me.
Bachs Rescue remedy can help. Relaxation therapy. Swimming. Walking, cycling ..........
Anxiety can become worse during peri-menopause due to hormonal fluctuations.
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I would give it more time before you think of increasing. My anxiety took 3 months on HRT to go, very little improvement in the first month then very patchy after that. Anxiety can be a symptom of too much oestrogen too and if you increase too much too soon you may not know which yours is.
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Hi Kelly
Gosh, no indeed, you’re not the only one and you’re as normal as the rest of us!
Great that you think the magnesium is working to some extent and also the paroxatine. If it helps then why , for now,perhaps you should keep using it, low and slow but definitely when necessary.
As you’re on sequential a diary will be very useful to track your moods. It maybe that you’re coming to a point where continuous would be better.
X
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Thanks ladies ...all taken on board...I also read about histamine surges .... and anti histamine can help ...read loads on it this morning. so took 2 today ..4 hrs apart .. can take upto 4 a day! The 2 was enough .. calmed me massively at work... the waves of panic were trying their best but kept at bay ....
I do like an alternative med ..I take many meds for slipped discs and spinal arthritis so if I can I will try anything other than hard meds🤪
Thr parox is great but has sn interaction with tramadol that I Haveto take daily hence why I can't really stay in it long..... ive no idea if the patches are for me so think a good 3 months on them will be time enough to tell and give them a chance to kick in 🤞
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There is a great app called Breathwrk (spelt like that). It helps you with guided breathing exercises that can be just a few minutes or longer. IT has exercises for energising you - and for calming and reducing anxiety.
Maybe check that out too.
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Thanks joziel. Will have a look at that app :)
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Morning ladies...well I took the antihistamines before bed.... and had about the best night's rest I've had in months !!!.... don't get me wrong ..I still had broken sleep but felt like getting back to sleep was no prob...no racing heart or urge to dive out of the bed in a panic ..no big sweats or waves of anxiety waiting in the back ground ! .. so maybe it's a slight break through ....and no groggy head like paroxatine can tend to give me ...xx
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Morning ladies...well I took the antihistamines before bed.... and had about the best night's rest I've had in months !!!.... don't get me wrong ..I still had broken sleep but felt like getting back to sleep was no prob...no racing heart or urge to dive out of the bed in a panic ..no big sweats or waves of anxiety waiting in the back ground ! .. so maybe it's a slight break through ....and no groggy head like paroxatine can tend to give me ...xx
I am so pleased. A decent sleep makes so much difference. :)
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Little steps ............
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Rainy, if you found that the anti-histamines helped you, it's a really good sign that the problem for you is histamine intolerance.
If you google 'Dr Tina Peers histamine intolerance estrogen' (those exact words!) you will get a lot of videos and interviews and resources up about histamine intolerance. There are a lot of natural supplements which can help, as well as reducing the histamine you eat, and making sure you don't overdo the estrogen or casually whack it up just 'to see'...
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What foods contain histamine :-\ ?
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Thanks joziel ...googling now x
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Hi Rainy Kelly
I’ve had to work through anxiety many periods of my life (starting periods/ post pregnancy/ peri and meno etc) and hormonal shifts are my trigger, exacerbated by outside stressors over the years.
My HRT had to be in balance and this keeps things- me- settled. I’m also a megnesium fan and recently I’ve found the Calming Anxiety app- Martin Hewlitt- as my best daily dose of anything. He does a daily podcast (Spotify) etc and is on YouTube. I didn’t engage with headspace for some reason, but I have with his work. I like his voice and process.
I shrugged off this type of thing, but in all honesty, I realised I needed to try and calm myself so I’m not ‘relying’ on my HRT to behave and my thyroid levels (I’m hypothyroid).
Yes, I monitor my HRT and thyroid, but best thing I have done to take control was to get my own thought processes reprogrammed. I’m still a work in progress, but it’s working. Who knew?? I do have to do at least 2 ‘sessions’ a day (relatively short Eg some 3-4 minutes, some 10 or 15, there’s lots to help induce sleep etc)
On the medication side, I do have emergency diazepam 5mg and take half only if I’m in complete overwhelm, but I’ve not had to use this now I’m doing my daily Calming Anxiety app. I’ve also stopped my antidepressant as I didn’t feel it was working/ helping. But This was under the GP and a very slow taper.
You might like Martin Hewelett Calming Anxiety, might not, but worth checking it out. He’s come from experience himself so seems really authentic when I listen to him.
Hope you are ok? I can completely relate to how this impacts on life. It helps to read your post and other replies to know we are not alone.
SQ x
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Hi SQ
Thanks for the heads up ..I shall give the MH calming anxiety a listen.!......you sound very much like me! ...Ive been a work in progress trying to sort this unpleasant little critter anxiety out for a few decades now! ..I too have the diazepham in the draw for desperate moments to turn my brain off... only taken once so far and have the dread of giving in and taking it, but have learnt to be kinder to myself now and do what is necessary to get the old me back on level ground....the antihistamines have been an eye opener.!.. so maybe a pack in your drawar may give you an extra go to solution for those ' just incase' moments! ..its not THE cure by any means im sure.. ..the critter may pounce when I'm not expecting it but if a histamine surge could be the reason for the anxiety to dip up and down in waves it makes me feel slightly more sane!!.
Hope your doing OK and, clearly, we are def not alone !!
RK x
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Thanks RK
Ill give this a go too as any help is great! It’s one to manage and it DOES help to know you are not alone.
Fingers crossed we get sorted x
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Hi SQ
I have been taking chloraphenamine antihistamines...just a cheaper version of Piriton ...think there are a few others you can pick but had them in cupboard...had a wobble this morning but think this heat not helping...plus I took the antihistamines last night with other meds ( painkillers and vitamins) so will take on its own n tonight and so it gets in my system... ive felt so much better on them the past 3 days .. but once I feel OK i tend to cut down immediately ! But will listen to my body and stay on them for a while now ...
RK