Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Pixielilac on July 04, 2022, 08:53:01 PM
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Does anyone know if Utrogestan is a diuretic? I took my first dose on Friday night and on Sunday started needing more wee’s than usual, and in the night and today I am weeing all the time, and feeling like I am in a kind of half awake state.
I do have VA so maybe could be a flare up. I had Utrogestan about maybe 5 years ago and was taken off it because it made me groggy but thought I would try and stick it to see if it passes.
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How often do you use the VA treatment? What does it suggest in the leaflet in the box of Utrogestan?
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I use Ovestin 3-4 nights a week, the leaflet doesn’t say about weeing a lot but to take it at night.
I really don’t feel ‘right’ on the Utrogestan, like a bit drunk.
When the DVT clinic said they will contact my doctor about not having my Femston anymire because it’s a tablet I could have cried, because about 5 years ago I had this trial and error before I was on Femeston.
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I rarely have to get up in night to use toilet but once on the Utrogestan i had to go twice during night. I hated the stuff, gave up after 8 days.
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I just had a phone call with a doctor, about the Utrogestan and he said I should not be taking any HRT at all while I have the blood clot for a month or 2 and if my symptoms return to get in touch as there are other treatments.
Not happy about this, my own doc who put me on the Sandrena and Utrogestan is in surgery tomorrow so I will speak to him tomorrow.
I can still use Ovestin though.
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That's correct if you are having treatment for a possible DVT. Let us know what your GP suggests.
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I will do.
I had an ultrasound scan on Friday, there is a blood clot there. After the scan I saw the DVT nurse who said I need to come off the Femeston conti tablets and ask doc for a HRT that’s not tablets so my own doc prescribed the Sandrena and Utrogestan, I rang today my doc not in surgery so spoke to the doc covering him and he just said shouldn’t be on any HRT for a month or two and see how my symptoms are in 2 months, I’m worried because I have VA as well.
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Did he say you have to stop VA treatment too? I thought it OK to continue with it.
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He said it is ok to carry on with the Ovestin for VA.
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In the meantime, keep a mood/symptom/food diary to chart progress. Have U been given medication to reduce the DVT? Is the area hot to touch; swollen?
Do continue with the VA treatment, it is very important to get symptoms under control. Let us know how you get on.
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I had injections for 3 days now on tablets for 3 months to treat the clot.
I am worried about being without HRT, it was a battle with my doc to get it, I was tearful, snappy, mood swings, awful time until I got put on it by a lady doctor. I really don’t want to go
back to that.
I spent a fortune in Boots and Holland and Barrett on natural remedies that didn’t work, but maybe something new has come along.
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Natural doesn't always provide long lasting results.
mayB send an e-mail to Dr Currie for which there is a charge?
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There is ZERO increased risk of blood clots with transdermal HRT so you for sure could request a patch or the gel....
Honestly, these male doctors who take women off it at the drop of a hat, could you imagine if we just removed their testosterone overnight for several months....just in case, or something :o
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Whilst I agree there's no increased risk of clots from taking transdermal hrt that isn't the same as it not having an an adverse effect on the treatment for the clot. Have you looked up the treatment your receiving to see if there's been any research on it? It may be one of those annoying things where the dvt specialist knows little about hrt and the hrt specialist knows little about dvt treatment.
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I agree with Sheila but also wondering whether you have had your clotting factors tested?
Taz x
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I’m taking Apixaban for the blood clot, a 3 month course. I have had a look on an NHS website about it and it doesn’t say about not taking it with HRT.
I had a D-dimer blood test last Tuesday in A&E , my foot and ankle had swollen up and my calf was hot and sore, I thought it was because I had been hobbling around sort of on my heel because of the broken toe.
Then Friday I had the ultrasound which showed the blood clot.
I can’t get on with the progesterone, I was taken off it 5 years ago, and really don’t want to come off HRT for 2-3 months ☹️But if I have to, I have to.
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I rang the docs this morning, after arguing with receptionist that I need to speak to doc today as was told yesterday to ring today to speak to him, she booked me in for 2 weeks time, I said look I have to speak to him about other issues after more arguing she booked in me in with a nurse, because all appointments with doc had gone🤔 and he’s not in surgery this afternnon.
So I rang DVT clinic who were not happy I had been taken off HRT, and said it’s ruiduculous I have been taken off it and fired off an email to my doctor and said if it was a woman doctor she would be more sympathetic.
So I get the phone call an hour later from the nurse, I told her I can’t stop weeing, can’t get on with Utrogestan and was taken off it 5 years ago and worried about being taken off hrt.
She said she will speak to my doc who rang me this afternoon (but he’s out of the surgery that’s why I can’t make an afternoon appointment🤔)
He has spoken to someone in thrombosis dept, they have told doc to write to someone (higher up but can’t I remember who) and I have 3 choices,
1- have a gel and a coil (no way, had a lot of problems after having a coil for a few years then having it changed and it wasn’t put in properly and had to be dragged out😳)
2- stop all hrt while I have the clot as they don’t know if even the gels and progesterone can make clot worse as apparently no info out there about someone with a clot who started a new HRT.
3-if thrombosis people say it’s ok, a combined patch which after reading on here and looking into patches, I would like to try.
But after all of this I have a niggling feeling telling me to not take anything at the moment. I don’t know if this is me getting a bit anxious about it all but much as I want to stay on HRT, something is telling to not to until the clot has gone.
I don’t know what I’ll be like in a week without HRT but don’t want to be the crying, sweaty, snappy, tired etc etc person I was before I went on it.
I went with choice 3,wait to see what the thrombosis dept say, then go from there. I was worried about my VA but being on my tablet HRT for 4-5 years did bugger all for it, that’s why I’m on Ovestin now.
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PHEW! keep on with the VA treatment.
I would opt for '3'. Try patches. you are not alone as many don't get on with progesterone :-\
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I’m staying on Ovestin 👍
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Hopefully the DVD issue will settle with appropriate medication. Take a list with you to any appt.s ;-)
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I will, thankyou for your replies.
Edited to say- won’t let me edit the long post update but meant to say-I don’t know what I’ll be like after a week let alone a month without HRT.