Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Nas on May 06, 2022, 06:51:48 AM
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Hi all,
Well I had to make the switch from oral back to my 75 patch HRT, due to ongoing bladder issues which wouldn't settle on femeston. Now, as predicted, I’m plagued with god awful period pains. Had these for almost a week and painkillers are not touching the sides.
I rather think patches give me period pains in general ,as I experience the same with Estradot ( I’m on evorel).
I’ve also got an appointment coming up for a Mirena fitting soon and have read some horror stories about that too! I know I shouldn’t be feeling so negative but I’m scared, in case I feel worse, as seem to be sensitive to hormones.
Today I feel like ripping the patch off, but what to replace it with?
Oh and I’ve got a trapped nerve in my arm..just to add insult to injury.
Life! 🤦♀️
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Hello Nas.
I am so sorry to hear about your troubles and my heart goes out to you.
Will the person fitting your coil be able to advise you on a different delivery method of Oestrogen? Is an implant an option? Perhaps they can also guarantee a swift removal of the coil if it doesn't suit you?
I am sure there are many success stories and hopefully some ladies here will be along to support you.
Wishing you well and sending hugs.
K.
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I have no idea any longer Kathleen.
Gynae said my womb is still "active" what ever that means?
Is that because of the HRT or not, I don't know.
The only way to truly know, is to come off HRT now.
On day 26 since my last bleed on HRT and I am full of cramps and I just think HRT makes me bleed, full stop.
If the mirena doesn't agree, I will have to come off HRT for sure.
It's just a complete minefield to me.
How are you today? x
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Keep going Nas!
You can’t live sitting on the loo for the rest of your days! If the patch is reducing the bathroom visits then stick with it. The Mirena will sort the bleeding. Don’t give up! X
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I know Victoria, but the cramps and pms symptoms are horrific.
It’s like swapping one set of misery for another!
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How many days away is the Mirena fitting?
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13 days
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Assuming you’re not taking hols and work Monday to Friday that’s 8 more working days with a weekend roughly in the middle. Can you delegate husband/partner/kids/friends/neighbours to do absolutely everything for you so that you can get time to focus on you?
Or can you escape to a peaceful place, like a hotel or a friend’s house who is on holiday etc?
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In a month's time you'll be back here telling us the mirena is the best thing since sliced bread. Hopefully. I know you're worried about it but the vast majority who use it are absolutely fine.
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Agree with Sheila, I wish I’d had one fitted from the beginning!
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Yes I am hoping it will work. It’s the fear of the unknown i think and knowing how sensitive I am to these hormones.
No option of escaping just yet Victoria, I am one for pushing through the tough times and keeping distracted.
Sheila, I do hope you are right re: the coil. It’s either going to be my savior or my demon!
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Sorry to hear you don’t feel great. I also get PMS on the patch, I never had cramps all my life until perimenopause. It sounds like yours are severe though, I can cope with mine with CBD & hot water bottles and I find exercise can help too. I’m sorry I can’t offer any wisdom to you.
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Thanks ATB,
It’s okay, not long until my coil fitting now. Just having one of those “ meh” days.
Out of curiosity, what CBD do you take? I’ve bought one from CBD brothers and quite like it.
Will dig the hot water bottle out and get an get an early night tonight I think.
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I meant to say heated pack/bag, I stopped using hot water bottles after one started splitting as I was using it! My dad told me this story of one bursting on his sister that used to scare me but then it happened!
I haven’t tried CBD brothers, I’ll check it out. Blessed is a popular one and I think it’s good, I cannot recall all of them but Ive tried different ones. I saw a great cooking show with them using both CBD & THC in amazing food, like a typical cooking show but with a twist. It was so weird!! Some of the products are pricey if we could add dried herb to food that would be cool!
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That’s enough to put you off using a hot water bottle then, isn’t it! Ouch!
Just looked at blessed, quite pricey, but they are doing a deal with 25% off and a free tub of gummies. I may be tempted!
What regime are you on now then ATB?
I’m kind of thinking patches don’t suit me after all.
Maybe we all need a bit of THC! Perhaps davina could raise it on TV!
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I am still on patches, I like them overall although a bit sore during my period. Better for me than the gel. When taking Utrogestan I have bloating and less energy but I’m generally almost there I think. I am applying Androfemme early in the morning so that’s improved my day too. It’s been 8 months on HRT and 2 months since I’ve been on the 50 patch. So I guess a few months before we decide if this is right or needs tweaking. I read something about how many menopausal women grow and use THC!! For pain and mood stabilisation. Blessed is pricey, that’s the only thing. There’s heaps of choice though.
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Interesting Nas, I had killer cramps during last two months when I was switched to Estradot from Oestrogel (am now returning to the latter).
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Yes laszla, Estradot give me awful cramps too. I can’t tolerate them.
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Christ the cramps are as strong as ever and the patch has been off for 48 hours. What is going on? Where is this bleed? :-\
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Oh god that’s awful Nas. I don’t understand enough to help you, but this is such a crazy thing trying to understand our periods while we take HRT. Mine comes before Utrogestan so I always wonder, should I just take for 12 days or the full 14 they say? Why take it if you’re bleeding? Why did it take 6 days after I stopped Utrogestan to bleed a couple of times? It’s so hard to understand.
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I’m with you ATB, you need a degree to fathom it all out ! It’s one of THE most complex situations I’ve ever had to contemplate!
I thought in peri, the bleed was meant to come after you stopped utrogestan? I guess as long as you get the bleed, you are okay? No point taking if you are bleeding.
Time to grow some THC I think!
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Bleed has arrived!28 days from last one.
So patch makes me bleed still.
Let’s hope the Mirena sorts this out!
🤞🤞🤞
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Hope you’re feeling ok today Nas. Had you stopped menstruating before you started HRT? When you say patches make you bleed, is that what you mean? I’m still menstruating but it was all over the place and heavy and over more days than normal before I started HRT. Now it’s much lighter and regular, although not after I stop Utrogestan as I expected, it comes on very slowly during the Utrogestan phase, almost like dust at first and then spot bleeding and maybe 2 days of a normal bleed. I guess I’m naturally having changing periods as I move toward them ending altogether- which I can’t wait to happen!!
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Hi ATB,
Yes feeling okay today, much better.
The ridiculous thing is, that the bleed ( which is next to nothing ) doesn’t equate to the pain and pmt which I was experiencing ( unless I’m in for a bloodbath tomorrow on day 3).
I’m feeling slightly baffled.
Yes, I was 27 months no period before HRT.
Sounds like your periods are changing too then.