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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Postmeno3 on April 23, 2022, 01:39:17 PM

Title: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: Postmeno3 on April 23, 2022, 01:39:17 PM
Hi, ladies.
In response to what arose in the other thread, I am willing to start this simple YES thread so that a tally can be made from those who feel our respected MM can have a meaningful voice for change with a request to Dr. Currie at our helm to make an approach, on behalf of us all, to whomever has the best position to act further so that our collective health and/or progress is not further compromised by the current situation of HRT shortages.
Can I ask that PLEASE nothing other than a YES goes in this thread. The other thread is available for opinions and comments. Apologies to those who have already put YES on the other thread! I hope you don't mind doing it again. Many thanks.
Again, please, this thread is ONLY to say YES for greatest ease of interpretation.
Huge thanks! 🙏
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: Marchlove on April 23, 2022, 01:46:14 PM
Yes
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Post by: Cassie on April 23, 2022, 01:54:47 PM
Yes
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Post by: Perinowpost on April 23, 2022, 02:02:47 PM
Yes
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Post by: Amazing grace on April 23, 2022, 02:06:25 PM
Yes
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Post by: sheila99 on April 23, 2022, 02:09:07 PM
Yes
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Post by: VictoryV on April 23, 2022, 02:12:53 PM
Yes
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Post by: Joaniepat on April 23, 2022, 02:16:11 PM
Yes
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Post by: Flossieteacake on April 23, 2022, 02:32:41 PM
Yes
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: Postmeno3 on April 23, 2022, 03:39:36 PM
Yes
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Post by: Suzysheep on April 23, 2022, 03:45:08 PM
Yes
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Post by: Haydo on April 23, 2022, 04:04:51 PM
Yes
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Post by: Nik2502 on April 23, 2022, 04:38:01 PM
Yes
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Post by: suzysunday on April 23, 2022, 04:41:41 PM
Yes
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Post by: pepperminty on April 23, 2022, 05:41:33 PM
YES
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Post by: Curlygirl on April 23, 2022, 08:34:19 PM
Yes
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Post by: Beccascat on April 23, 2022, 08:54:09 PM
Yes
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Post by: Jane_w on April 23, 2022, 09:02:17 PM
YES
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Post by: alibeau on April 23, 2022, 09:51:11 PM
YES
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Post by: Cookie25 on April 23, 2022, 10:15:47 PM
YES
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Post by: Uptick on April 23, 2022, 10:26:41 PM
Yes.
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Post by: laszla on April 23, 2022, 11:19:04 PM
yes
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Post by: LillyWilliams. on April 24, 2022, 03:15:17 AM
YES
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: Postmeno3 on April 24, 2022, 08:47:18 AM
(Bump)
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Post by: QueenofReds3 on April 24, 2022, 09:15:44 AM
YES
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Post by: Louise2010 on April 24, 2022, 09:18:45 AM
Yes
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Post by: jasmine5 on April 24, 2022, 09:28:45 AM
Yes
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Post by: Kathleen on April 24, 2022, 03:07:35 PM

Yes.
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Post by: LSmarty on April 24, 2022, 03:16:21 PM
Yes
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Post by: PeriWhat?! on April 24, 2022, 03:20:58 PM
Yes
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Post by: scrubdub on April 24, 2022, 04:21:07 PM
Yes
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Post by: Gracie on April 24, 2022, 04:25:04 PM
Yes
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Post by: arc73 on April 24, 2022, 06:09:32 PM
YES
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Post by: Ecl on April 25, 2022, 06:52:15 AM
Yes
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Post by: Unicorn on April 25, 2022, 07:54:04 AM
Yes x
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Post by: HR1 on April 25, 2022, 07:58:18 AM
Yes
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Post by: Shell babes on April 25, 2022, 08:58:12 AM
Yes
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Post by: Gnatty on April 25, 2022, 11:16:01 AM
Yes
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Post by: Postmeno3 on April 26, 2022, 06:48:02 AM
Final bump.)
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Post by: Hurdity on April 26, 2022, 08:17:11 AM
yes
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Post by: Rosie63 on April 26, 2022, 08:22:55 AM
Yes
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Post by: Beaker on April 26, 2022, 08:33:42 AM
Yes
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Post by: Sparkler on April 26, 2022, 11:42:14 AM
Yes
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Post by: CrispyChick on April 26, 2022, 11:50:42 AM
Yes
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: Postmeno3 on April 26, 2022, 03:46:29 PM
Tally closed. Please see detail on Kathleen's thread about HRT Unavailability Raised in House Of Commons.
Deepest thanks. 🙏
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: Jenny j on April 26, 2022, 09:27:24 PM
Yes
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: Postmeno3 on April 27, 2022, 07:34:21 AM
Just to let you all know that the response so far from Emma has been to direct me to the spread in the Daily Mail. Thanks, everyone.
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: Hurdity on April 27, 2022, 07:50:04 AM
Thanks postmeno3

Just to say, if you are reading, I see you have left the forum - not sure why, or whether you are following this up - it sounds like a great campaign. Also to say thanks for your message sent yesterday which I just tried to reply to, but couldn't because you've left!

All the very best
Hurdity x
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: Perinowpost on April 27, 2022, 12:18:11 PM
Postmeno3 please don’t leave because you feel you (maybe) have been fobbed off. It’s a worthy cause and every voice counts - is there a way we can get our views across?x
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: Cazikins on April 28, 2022, 12:17:15 PM
So sad to see you leave MM Postmeno3, your input will be missed.

I have posted a link elsewhere on the forum for a petition which some may find helpful:


On  29th October 2021, Labour MP Carolyn Harris succeeded in getting HRT costs reduced to a once a year payment in England (an Annual Prepayment Certificate for HRT products). On March 16th, 2022, it was announced that this won't be implemented till April 2023, leaving many women still struggling to pay.

This change needs to be made sooner, along with transparency about the HRT shortages so that women can more easily afford and obtain vital medication.

https://www.menopausemandate.com/sign-the-petition
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: Uptick on April 28, 2022, 04:05:24 PM
Hi Cazikins, very good, thank you  :)
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: suzysunday on April 28, 2022, 07:41:48 PM
Next April is unacceptable.  I wish the government had just made HRT free without this strange halfway situation.  How can they even provide a year's supply if there is a shortage. And what about if you have 3 months to try some hrt out for example.  I think it should just be free full stop. And do it quick. 
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: Amazing grace on April 28, 2022, 08:29:38 PM
I absolutely agree with that suzysunday, what's the point in paying this one off payment for hrt, how will it actually work if you don't get it all in one go, and what if we need to go to different chemist's each time how do you prove you've already paid the one off fee, just pathetic really on the government's part x
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: Marchlove on April 28, 2022, 08:55:30 PM
This is all part of what Postmeno3 was trying to achieve. A voice from this respected forum that would have real influence, a voice for change x
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: ChocolateWombat on April 29, 2022, 08:42:05 AM
In my understanding, women will be entitled to a year’s supply of HRT across however many prescriptions are needed.

It won’t be that just 1 prescription for 12 months will be issued.  Those starting out might have a 1 or 3 month supply.  If HRT needs changing at some point, another prescription can be issued.  It will be like the current pre-payment certificate/card but only cover HRT supplies.

The shortage issue is a separate one.

Yes, it needs sorting out too and the shortage issue does seem to be giving some GPs an excuse to only issue smaller than ever prescriptions, but even without shortages, some will only issue monthly prescriptions whilst others will give 6 months on one script, which will mean that person pays 1/6 of the other person.

Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: Dr. Heather Currie on April 30, 2022, 03:29:43 PM
Thank-you all for raising this important issue, and for your ongoing support of our forum.
This was a statement sent out from Menopause Matters this week about the current HRT supply situation.

HRT Supply Issues
In light of the current media attention around HRT supply issues Menopause Matters' own Dr Currie MBE has issued our view on the current position, which we hope will be helpful to our readers:

"As more women and healthcare professionals are aware that HRT is the most effective treatment for menopausal symptoms and are recognising that for many women, the benefits outweigh any risks, prescriptions are increasing, such that currently supply is outstripping demand. This is understandably causing much distress but is hoped to be a short term problem. See statement below from the British Menopause Society, with links to useful resources.

"The British Menopause Society has issued an update on HRT supply to provide guidance to BMS members and clinical practitioners on the current availability of HRT Products.

"Besins Healthcare (UK) Ltd has advised that it has experienced exceptionally high demand for Oestrogel over recent months and this has resulted in shortages of availability. Besins expects this to be a short-term issue and anticipates that supplies will be available to local wholesaler branches soon.

"The BMS advises women who are experiencing difficulty in obtaining Oestrogel to consider equivalent alternative HRT preparations. This could include Sandrena gel (0.5mg or 1mg) or Lenzetto spray preparations.

"Prescribers should consider using equivalent preparations to those that their patients are currently using. If an exact match is not possible, prescribers can seek guidance available on the BMS website to clarify equivalent doses."

Read BMS Update on HRT Supply in full...https://thebms.org.uk/news/british-menopause-society-update-on-hrt-supply/

Read more about equivalent preparations...https://thebms.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/15-BMS-TfC-HRT-preparations-and-equivalent-alternatives-01D.pdf

Read more about HRT types, doses and regimens https://www.womens-health-concern.org/help-and-advice/factsheets/hrt-types-doses-and-regimens/

You can also visit the Menopause Matters  Decision Tree http://www.menopausematters.co.uk/tree.php

Menopause Matters and The British Menopause Society, which I work very closely with being a trustee and past Chair, are fully supportive of appointment of an HRT tsar and look forward to working closely with her to resolve the situation.

I hope that this is helpful and provides some reassurance that much work is underway.
Best wishes all
Heather

Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: pepperminty on April 30, 2022, 04:35:30 PM
I do hope that Postmeno3 comes back to the forum.

If this were a medication that a million ( I believe that is how many women are on HRT in the UK) men required to function in their daily lives to be able to work etc without sweating, anxiety - I could go on , then this would have never been an issue. And if it was they would have sorted it by now.

For too long nothing has been done. We need more than a tsar- we have many women and male doctors and MP's already continually bringing the lack of knowledge and options available to women to the for front and nothing has been done.
 The options of HRT have been dwindling as the pharmaceutical companies have withdrawn them bit by bit.
Many Gp's haven't a clue how to prescribe and what the risks and benefits are - what is the difference between Menopause and other conditions ? Only half the population get it and they are women.

HRT prevents osteoporosis and heart disease  good evidence shows  maybe dementia.

Anyway, the proof will be in the pudding.

Meanwhile ladies swop HRT in car parks because they need the one they find that suited them - not the alternative they were given.

PMXX

Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: Marchlove on April 30, 2022, 05:08:14 PM
Well put Pepperminty, I wish Postmeno3 would come back too  :(
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: pepperminty on April 30, 2022, 05:28:28 PM
Well put Pepperminty, I wish Postmeno3 would come back too  :(

Indeed. x

This could actually be fixed quickly- the medication  is out there - no excuses!

How about giving Gp's training - a weeks education on up to date prescribing and evidence!
PMxx

Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: Joaniepat on April 30, 2022, 06:42:55 PM
Free, CPD accredited training is already out there from, for example, Louise Newson's Menopause Charity. It wouldn't even take a week. It's just a case of them finding the time and having the willingness to do it.
JP x
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: pepperminty on May 02, 2022, 06:20:34 PM
Free, CPD accredited training is already out there from, for example, Louise Newson's Menopause Charity. It wouldn't even take a week. It's just a case of them finding the time and having the willingness to do it.
JP x

To be up to date with all the women's health concerns including VA , UTI's and vulva disease which goes with the menopause etc would be more than a couple of hours and should be in GP training to start with. Most GP's don't realize with perimenopause is unfortunately . I was not being literal.  x
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: CLKD on May 02, 2022, 07:34:11 PM
For Pennyfarthing
Title: Re: NHS Shortages. An action plan for MM?
Post by: Pippa52 on May 02, 2022, 10:39:07 PM
YES