Menopause Matters Forum
General Discussion => New Members => Topic started by: AdeleW on April 11, 2022, 05:57:19 PM
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Hi everyone, just joined the forum and wondering if anyone else has run into problems finding a body-identical progesterone option that doesn't come in a gelatin capsule? I've been taking Utrogestan since December and only recently thought to check the ingredients - I'm now bursting the capsule and squeezing the contents out! But I'd really prefer not to be having these again. Doc says Utrogestan is the only body-identical option - patches etc all 'bio-identical' which evidently is not the same. I'm sure she knows her stuff but maybe other UK ladies have encountered this and found an alternative. Or maybe there's loads of vegetarian HRT users out there who don't realise what's in the tablets?? It seems so unnecessary - I did email the manufacturers who said they'd take my feedback onboard but they've got no reason to change as it seems they have no competition here. Anyway, all thoughts welcome! Thanks
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The manufacturers will package medication in what works for the majority of people. Gelatin can be synthesised as can most organic things. [ 'things' isn't the word I'm looking for but it's late :-\]. Sorry.
Medication is packaged in certain sizes in order to deliver the product in the safest way to the best benefit of the user. Messing about may mean that not enough is used.
Sometimes we have to accept that stepping outside our current life style can help our over-all health. :welcomemm: browse round.
What other products do you avoid ? Interesting topic ..........
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Like you,I'm veggie and also find it difficult to find prescribed drugs without gelatine,which I find infuriating in this day and age,as there is absolutely no way they need to use this disgusting stuff but like clkd says sometimes we have to decide which is a priority and sadly I've had to endure ABs with gelatin capsules but if more people push for a change,it may happen,I always mention it to my Dr. The likes of Holland & Barrett do veggie capsules so why can't pharmaceutical companies 🤷♀️
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What is the substitute though jaypo?
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You get veggie gelatine now,rowantree jellies are now gelatine free as are children's chewy sweets,fruit pastilles and the like,so there is no need for animal gelatine,maybe it's more expensive to make?
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MayB the production lines have to be altered ? or it's more expensive to buy in?
I don't like fruit gums etc.
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If may have to go through the whole testing and licensing process again if they change it. Vegan/vegetarianism is very much a first world issue though. Pharmaceutical companies tend to global, or at least sell globally, so I suspect those that care about it are a tiny fraction of their market. I'd be interested to know if the veggie option competes on efficiency and price. If it does I see no reason why future medication can't make use of it.
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Plenty of capsules are vegan friendly these days so they really should consider it, especially as it affects vegetarians as well, of which there are plenty around the world.
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Are U able to explain what the 'vegan' option is made of :-\ ..........
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Often a type of seaweed I believe.
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Also plant gum,I'm guessing it's way more expensive to produce,hence the reason pharmaceutical companies are not producing it >:(
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A lot of supplements now use vegan gelatin and other common medicines. Like a lot about menopause and female related stuff, it’s slow to catch up IMO
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The Vegan Review explains it really well. 8)
It's put me right off my grub ........ I don't like jelly anyway and as for trifle :-X
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Seaweed or boiled skin, tendons or bones… definitely rather the seaweed! I love trifle!
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:lol: apart from jelly, everything in trifle is yummy, I had to stop myself buying some of those 'finger' things that lay in the bottom of the dish. If I had a packet I would eat them all in. one go :o :-X
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Now I really want trifle ;D
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I'll have the cold custard ;D
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Not with the skin on though 🤢🤢
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:-X. :o
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The skin is best bit. Especially if it's chocolate custard :P
I found a Xmas hat :) :xmas:
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Oh no you didn't :rofl: that reminds me: at school they cooked semolina: 1 week it would be vanilla :-X the next chocolate. Because I wouldn't eat the vanilla I was denied 'seconds' of the chocolate - go figure >:(
I occasionally buy a tin and mix melted 'flake' into it :-*
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Eeeeeeoooowwwwww Sheila!! Just barfed up ;D
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Extras for the dog, huh?
We had pink semolina at junior school, it was disgusting. They made me stay behind to eat it - it didn't work >:(. Funny how tastes change, I didn't like custard then either.
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;D
It was tapioca that I hated when I was little 🤢
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:) Hi,
I use Cyclogest pessaries which I believe is progesterone and vegetable fat.
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Do they go well with custard? :) Oops, we seem to have gone a bit off topic. I believe cyclogest isn't licensed for hrt in the UK? So may be hard to get a prescription for it.
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OH PINK semolina, who thought that was a good idea >:(
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Back to topic B4 I barf :D
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Hi everyone, thanks for responding. The answer is definitely pressure on the manufacturers as clearly there are vegan friendly alternatives available and being used widely for supplements available on the highstreet. I guess we just keep pestering our doctors every time as jaypo says and writing to Besins Health who seem to have the UK monopoly on the body identical stuff. For now I'll keep spitting out the capsules - ugh.
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What other products do you avoid ? Interesting topic ..........
I avoid anything with animal products in - so synthetic 'gelatine' is fine - if only more pharma companies would use it...
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Like you,I'm veggie and also find it difficult to find prescribed drugs without gelatine,which I find infuriating in this day and age,as there is absolutely no way they need to use this disgusting stuff but like clkd says sometimes we have to decide which is a priority and sadly I've had to endure ABs with gelatin capsules but if more people push for a change,it may happen,I always mention it to my Dr. The likes of Holland & Barrett do veggie capsules so why can't pharmaceutical companies 🤷♀️
I agree - pressure from consumers is the only things that'll change things. I'm going to pester my doctor too now, and write to Besins Health again about it.
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Well done :)