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General Discussion => This 'n' That => Topic started by: jaycee on August 13, 2021, 03:16:23 PM
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Has anyone been able to see a vet actually inside yet, my vets has continual queues outside.many more than probably would see a vet in one day
Are they just making up for lost revenue?
I need to take one of my cats every few weeks for a painkilling injection. she has stomatitis,
A cat i had up until a few months ago had this very badly and had to be put to sleep in the end,as she couldn't eat,it was so painful, the vet didn't tell me another cat could also get it after sharing bowls and water etc, now this cat has it,
If i see a vet with her it costs for medication plus consultation, but if a nurse gives the injection, no consultation fee,
I rang this morning to make an appointment and the receptionist insisted she could only put me in with the vet
I explained that a nurse knows what she has to have on a regular basis
I did explain that it was with the vets permission, and i do have her checked by him at times
The recptionist said nurses can't diagnose,i again repeated that it was an going thing and to check with the vet if she wanted to
The receptionist then said we haven't many nurse here at the moment so you will have to see a vet,
I said no,i'm not paying for a consultation i don't need, are they just tring to get more and more money out of us when not neccessary
I am furious, it is as bad as trying to get to even speak to a Dr, it takes weeks
i TRIED THIS MORNINGNOT UNTIL sEPTEMBER,BUT THATS ANOTHER STORY
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"itis" = inflammation/infection i.e. appendiciitis
Whether or not it's a transferrable condition, is it a new receptionist or has the Nurse who was treating your pets left the Practice? If so a Vet will need to examine your cat for an on-going treatment plan. In order to relieve your cat's painful mouth, it might be worth biting the bullet?
Could you ask for the Vet to telephone so that you can explain further B4 committing 2 a consult.? It may be that Vets need to see pets every 12 months to consider if treatment is appropriate.
2 of my 3 cats didn't cost me anything until the last 6-8 months of their lives. The 3rd one however :o: broken leg, ongoing urinary crystals which meant a special diet .......
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Yes ours opened some time ago to clients inside. Only one per pet though.
Two of mine have stomatitis and it is always the vet who gives the injection. It was explained to me that the nurses are not allowed to give this injection. They are permitted to give booster vaccinations though. I know what you mean about the consultation cost (£49 in my practice)but I'm always reassured that it is a vet seeing mine each month as the mouth condition can change in subtle ways which may not be picked up by a nurse.
I'm so sorry your cat has this horrible disease too. I had my most wonderful ex feral cat put to sleep in December as he was in so much pain and nothing more could be done. He was an FIV cat so his immune system couldn't cope. I miss him so much.
Taz x
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£49.00 is cheap :o !
Do they require ABs as well as the injections ?
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Speak to the practice manager, the receptionist is making decisions beyond her level of expertise. If the vet is happy for the nurse to give the injection it isn't for the receptionist to say she can't.
Taz2 have you investigated or is it a fob off? Nurses give injections every day and are just as good as vets, sometimes better. The vet never injects our animals unless he happens to be here. Slightly different as it's farm animals but we've never been told we can't. We don't do intravenous injections though.
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£49.00 is cheap :o !
Do they require ABs as well as the injections ?
£49 for the consultation. Mine has an antibiotic injection and sometimes steroid too. With both it's around £110 monthly. With the feral boy it was more as he weighed 8.5kg so needed a dog size dose. His bill was £123.00 every two weeks. He was worth it though.
Taz x
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I paid as we went then claimed on insurance for the dog. Cats were never insured.
Insurance was £39.00 the 1st year with no excess, by the time she died at age 13.5 her Premium was £500.00 per year with £200.00 excess. Her Chemo was covered. Treatment 1 week out of 4 ..........
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I think there has been some misunderstanding here, the cat sees the vet when it
s necessary, say i think it has got worse quickly. she last saw him about 5 weeks ago, at my request, just in case she needed more antibiotics,
Otherwise she is seen and injected by a nurse on the vets instructions of what to give her,if the nurse is new for example,she still consults the vet, without me
I have arranged to take her on tuesday, the earliest i could get an appointmrnt,
I do think the receptionist is new, didn't recognise her voice, but told her to check with my vet if she wanted to
All my animals were insured, and the 2 cats i have left still are of course, but insurance doesn't cover teeth or gums,
After paying for 12 years and never claiming except for Lola my late dog,i think i wont bother again when these are gone,if i get another pet,as i am still paying the vet by instalments for all the cats teeth problems,over £1000 in all
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Is the injection an anti-biotic? Do you clean their teeth, difficult with cats, hard enough with dogs ::)
I had a paste to put on their gums or paws: supposedly mouse flavour :-\ which gives images all of it's own ;D : but they would lick it radially so I don't know how much good it might have done.
The dog had carrots and of course, cats 'in the wild' would eat grass, a complete rodent which would keep gums healthier. I would raw feed my dog/s in future as pet food is so sloppy. 'kibble' - well I never know what's in it for dogs or cats :-\.
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We took our dog for boosters last week. The vet came and got her from outside and brought her back when he'd done. The problem we have with vets here is they are all being taken over by a corporate and there are very few independent ones left in the area, and they are all full. The ones that have been taken over, including ours have put up their prices and all phone calls seem to go through a central switchboard.
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As well as being tied in to various pet food Companies ?
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Had a video consultation with a vet today, as they had no appointments for the next few days, followed up by an injection from a nurse. Was told that all vets in the uk are really busy atm, partly because of all the extra pets over lockdown and partly because a lot of vets, much like medical professionals in the NHS, come from the EU and it’s so much harder to get them to come now.
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If you read that though Kate172 - it's like you have had the injection ;) ..........
However, many Vets are resident in the UK having done their Degrees here and it's time that surgeries were open again. I suspect that lots of people purchased pets during lockdown - some of which will have been really ill due to puppy farms and imports without paper work. So sad.
It's also the time when pups will need their 1st health check and jabs. which will add 2 the work load.
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Our vets are all English, and i try to see the same vet each time i have to see one
My cat will have a painkiller plus antibiotic,
The worst thing for people i think is having a pet put to sleep, as you can't stay with them, which i have always done, had to let the vet take the cat last time and bring her out to me
I have noticed more people with puppies
My daughter has just bought a Colliepoo, as she is called, a collie x poodle, she is lovely,and the price was reduced due to being the last one, but prices are ridiculous now
There is a facebook page selling french bulldogs. and it is disgaraceful, how many are having to be taken to the vets soon after buying,due to health problems,poor things, they are being overbred
Everyone and anyone seems to be breeding them, and now some can't sell,
Many breeders are even doing payment plans!!
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I read about payment plans recently.
I had all my pets pts at home apart from the 3 bunnies. There has never been a reason why an owner can't attend, who would it be protecting as Vets have access to full PPE.
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I know our vets will sometimes put pets to sleep on a saturday afternoon when they are usually closed, but other times they take them inside and owners have to wait outside which is very upsetting,
I don't understand either when they have ppe, but they only wear a mask outside no other protection
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Ours was like this until lockdown ended. We can now accompany our pets. One person per pet. We still wear masks in the building and social distance in the waiting room. Only two clients to wait inside at any one time. I think you should query why things haven't returned to normal.
I had to have my beloved boy put to sleep while I waited outside which is why I think it's been so much harder to cope with losing him when I've lost many others over the years but have always been there at the end. Really, though, he'd had a vets appointment every two weeks for the last 18 months of his life so to him it was just another routine trip I think.
Taz x
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Oh Taz,that's awful :'(
My little King Charles was put to sleep at home,waiting for the vet was the worst day EVER but we fed her ham and cheese and all the things she loved❤️
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Yep - our cat had been on a restricted 'special' diet due to crystals in his urine, once I had called the Vet 2 attend, he had lots of his fav. meat. He looked at the bowl in amazement as if "May I?" it took a while 4 me 2 get the happier memories :-\
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Yes,me too,think I cried for 3 months :'(
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I would have hated not being present :-\ . I was speaking to a friend last night, 3 weeks ago her cat was pts in the back of her car in the pet carrier. Vet came out with the syringe - no need to remove puss, a gentle send off :-*. She hadn't been able to tell me until now.
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I'm taking the chihuahua to the vet tomorrow,she doesn't seem herself,keeps lying down everywhere,she's eating etc and plays for a while but definitely lying down more
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Such a worry. I smell expensive tests ............. however, a gentle exam as well as perhaps an X-ray of her spine might show if she's got arthritic problems? Poos within normal limits?
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Yes,everything fine,just this lying down or panting when it's now even hot,she's been spayed but could she still have a phantom pregnancy? I had a dog who got leukaemia when she was 3 and that's in my mind
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No to the phantom pregnancy. Usually the bitch will take bedding, toys, rugs into the basket and guard them. Pyometra - when lining remains behind causing womb infection, is the danger in bitches.
Is she overweight? That can cause a longer recovery period in hot weather, in that they pant to cool down a lot more. Does she seek the cool tiles ? Is this a similar symptom to your other dog?
Could be painful joints so it's easier to lay down. Does she eat laying down, our friend's pooch does.
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We are taking our dog for his first Canadian vet visit tomorrow and I'm thinking it'll be the same, we can't go in the clinic with him.
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8). ............ is he due anything or a general check up to make sure that he is what you were told? Does he snore ;D
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He's getting bloodwork and fecal, and he is being treated for a tick-borne disease with Doxycycline for a month (will get tested again), he has mange and will be getting treatment for that. Poor guy is scratching and biting all over when he's awake. He has patches of bare skin on his legs and his butt.
And no, he doesn't snore lol. Our other Golden really snored. ;D
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Mange - fox or .......... my dog had specific baths against fox mange she smelt like a creosoted fence on her return. If they suggest baths, make sure that they do them !! otherwise it gets everywhere ;D. A steroid injection will ease any ithyness until the mange treatment solves the problem. Does he have ticks? Mine used to get them when we holidayed in the Lake District: off sheep and/or deer : they are related to spiders :o so I got to recognise them in their black small critter shape, B4 they took a bite which caused them to swell ......... :-X ;D. She was blonde though, it was easier and brought out the Hunter-gatherer in me :D
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She is a bit overweight and yes,my other dog became suddenly lethargic,so needless to say it's always on my mind :'(
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Of course.
How's the mouth jaycee?
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Mange - fox or .......... my dog had specific baths against fox mange she smelt like a creosoted fence on her return. If they suggest baths, make sure that they do them !! otherwise it gets everywhere ;D. A steroid injection will ease any ithyness until the mange treatment solves the problem. Does he have ticks? Mine used to get them when we holidayed in the Lake District: off sheep and/or deer : they are related to spiders :o so I got to recognise them in their black small critter shape, B4 they took a bite which caused them to swell ......... :-X ;D. She was blonde though, it was easier and brought out the Hunter-gatherer in me :D
The day we brought him home, dd and I gave him a bath and we found a dead tick on his chest, but that was the only one.
He's barking now at random things, and the occasional dog on the other side of the road, which is not what I'm used to. Our other Golden barely woofed her whole life.
Still tired upon waking. During the night, my mind is filled with some doubt that this will work out. Ds is tolerating him and dh, though he likes him admitted he didn't want another dog, but is willing to keep him. I know this is only Day 4 and there is lots to work on with him, my worry is when I go back to work in a couple of weeks. Dd has noticed he's become attached to me and how will he manage with me gone part of the day. I took the kids to the mall for a bit and left the dog with dh. He texted me and said he was barking and growling and carrying on-separation anxiety I guess. We were gone for a couple of hours. Maybe it was too soon to leave him.
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It's so difficult sometimes CC,our German Shepherd was a rescue,we got her age 2 and although a good dog,my god,did she bark,it got so bad,it was either,we put her back or we put a citronella collar on her,which we did and it certainly helped,she hated the smell and soon realised the connection between barking and that smell.
My little dog got bloods done today but her heart,lungs and temperature all ok,keeping everything crossed :-\
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It's never to early to get into routine.
Does he have a crate? Time out is important 4 everyone. Barking can be controlled, it's early so all noise is new. Also, animals hear differently at ground level and the hearing is much more acute than humans! Keep him on the lead to check him if he barks, a gentle pull back with a small treat or toy to distract him. All noises are new, he'll get used to them.
I suggest: all of you take turns to feed/groom him. 1 takes care of him each day where practical. He should be encouraged to go onto his bed/crate when you want peace and quiet even if someone sits with him on his lead. Quietly keeping him placed: I did that with my cocker, 7 months when she bounced in here. A gentle reminder who is in charge.
Encourage him for fuss when you want it so that he doesn't become demanding or attention seeking. No up on the furniture, he should never be higher than the 'alpha' person. Same as he goes through doors when invited: this is your house, he's the guest for the moment. So the adult in control goes through doors first, he sits until allowed in. That way if it's a quick visit into the kitchen he learns to wait 2 C what is next on his agenda. Which might be nothing at all.
How is he over his food? If he begins guarding, feed by hand. Make him sit, wait, then show him the food: 'take it'. Same with toys ...........
R U worried that DH will get fed up with the dog, when did this come to light? Wasn't this discussed in full with contingency B4 you contacted the Rescue?
Mine never wanted one :'( and I worked myself into the ground trying to keep her on best behaviour. (long story short).
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Is DH going to be main carer whilst you are working?
This is new 2 U all. Of course, when a dog barks at something/dog/person outside it usually moves away from the environment = Job Done! Barked, it went away, that's what I wanted. Territorial. I've been known to stand and bark back at dogs behind the fence opposite ;D. It confuses them a bit 'cos I don't go ...........
Was his Vet Check OK? Temperament alright with yet another stranger? If he sleeps in the night, that's half the problem cracked. How old is he?
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Is DH going to be main carer whilst you are working?
This is new 2 U all. Of course, when a dog barks at something/dog/person outside it usually moves away from the environment = Job Done! Barked, it went away, that's what I wanted. Territorial. I've been known to stand and bark back at dogs behind the fence opposite ;D. It confuses them a bit 'cos I don't go ...........
Was his Vet Check OK? Temperament alright with yet another stranger? If he sleeps in the night, that's half the problem cracked. How old is he?
I'm at work for 2.5 hours in the morning and 3 hours in the afternoon, and home in between. Dh is home and dd is home, so the caregiving is between the two of them. He won't be alone while I'm working but dh said he freaked out yesterday when I left the house. He's good in the house, barking at his reflection stopped with a paper covering the mirror. Out of sight, out of mind.
Vet check in 3 hours, will post what happened. The shelter said he's about 3. He's good when meeting people. We haven't had him meet anyone new other than 2 neighbours and the contractor that's in and out of the house all day.
This morning on our walk he barked aggressively at a woman and her baby stroller, who was coming up behind us in the distance. Dd said he's probably never seen one before and felt threatened or confused.
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I wonder if the barking when you're not there is also a fear reaction. He's been abandoned at least once in past and perhaps he's scared it's happening again.
Some dogs seem to be 'one person' dogs whilst others are family dogs. We have one of each and I don't think it's anything we've done to make them that way. The one that thinks she owns me gets more and more miserable and stops eating when I go on holiday, the other couldn't care less as long as someone is there.
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We have the crate from our other dog. The rescue does not recommend crating as most of their dogs have spent their whole lives crated, I'm not certain this dog did, as he had owners. I can introduce it and see how it goes. I'd rather have that option when we all go out or I'm at work and no one is around. Since he's so quiet at night he won't have to go in the crate, or, he can if he chooses to.
We always go in the house first and he has to wait until we open the door. We are working on the sit command in English with the hand gesture. He has had a few successes...yay.
Dh definitely blindsided me. He said we had never discussed it (not true) and he knew how much I wanted a dog so he went along with it. We talked it over and he said it will be ok, and that he's a good boy. Dh has been patient with him considering the unwanted barking and says he's ok to keep him. Oldest Ds is another story. He has interacted with the dog, but he only does as far as he's comfortable. He was the same with Penny, she understood his moods.
sheila99- that could very well be true. He wasn't alone when I left so maybe he's one of those one-person dogs. Or there is alot more bonding to be done by everyone else.
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Yay,Cleo's bloods came back normal,phew,
Vet - that'll be £187 please >:(
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Worth every penny to know he's OK
:ola:
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Oh I know Sheila,such a relief :)
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They are such a worry :-\
What did the Vet suggest for Cleo?
C.C. - is DH getting panic attacks as, it's another responsibility after being dog-less for a while. Sharing care might work. Distraction 4 the barking which will take a day or two. You mentioned growling ............
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Just waiting for two more results from the main vets,cortisol levels and electrolytes,I have no clue what those are for,he reckons they will be ok too,so unless she gets worse, I'll just have to keep an eye on her
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Any news jaycee? We seem to have over run :scottie: the thread ::). jaypo - did U go into the Vets.?
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Yep,heart and lungs ok,temperature ok,bloods ok
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Any joint pain jaypo?
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No, I don't think so,for a small dog,she's tough as old boots and doesn't show you if she's sore,unlike the poodle,drama queen extraordinaire ;D
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They are such a worry :-\
What did the Vet suggest for Cleo?
C.C. - is DH getting panic attacks as, it's another responsibility after being dog-less for a while. Sharing care might work. Distraction 4 the barking which will take a day or two. You mentioned growling ............
It's actually my oldest ds who gets them. He had been struggling accepting the dog, he just needed some time to come to terms with the loss of our other dog. He seems better now. The growling doesn't seem to be aggressive, its deep in his throat and he barks once or twice. We have been ignoring him and that seems to calm him down.
The vet said yesterday he is pretty healthy. He does have some oral issues, maybe some gum disease and he will need a good cleaning at some point. He had bloodwork and fecal tests and I'll get the results sometime today. The vet wasn't 100% sure he has scabies, she took a scrape of his skin just to makes sure there were no mites. She sent us home with medicated shampoo and conditioner, dewormer, and flea and tick prevention (Interceptor), and updated his vaccines.
The rescue paid for all this....thank goodness! Cha-Ching!$$$$
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MayB DS should write a letter to your other dog, put it with a 'photo in a frame? The new one isn't a replacement, it's because you have enough love to share because you know this one needs caring 4. Mine went to sleep in 2002, still if I find a lead or blanket I get a lump in my throat. So it's OK to feel sad occasionally.
jaycee - any news?
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Mange can be diagnosed under the microscope ;-) quick little critters they are ;D
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[Update] took cat to the vet,she had an antibiotic injection and steroid for inflammation,
I asked the nurse to check with Lewis my usual vet,and he said what to give her,as it was yet another,[new] nurse,
I always know when she starts coughing that it is time for a vet visit,she sounds to have fluid on her chesy be they say her chest is clear,so maybe the drool is going back into her chest,i don't know
On another subject, i was horrified to find my other cat crawling with fleas, never ever seen a single flea before, and they only go into the garden, no hedgehogs etc can get in,so was puzzled,
I then realised that i keep an old sheet and blanket in my outhouse,to put over my glass garden table to keep the sun off them as they like to lay under it,,and one day a few weeks ago ,got the blanket out and a mouse jumped out of it,
I didn't think until later that is where the fleas must have come from, i had only that morning put advantage spot on on both of them
I had noticed the boy scratching but just thought it was the heat,as both long haired Ragdolls
I googled what to put on to stop the itching and vinegar diluted came up,so sprayed them both with that,the scratching stopped almost immediately
I rang the vet again about some household spray to put on carpets etc,[living room is laminate] she said RIP which was £25,couldn't believe the price
found same on Amazon for £8-99, ordered and delivered next day
Who says vets don't make a good profit on what they sell,
All flea clear now thank god, wasn't bitten ,but couldn't stop scratching
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Ragdolls are lovely, we have several local to where we live 8)
Fleas - I could write a book ;D. My cocker was blonde, when she was asleep beside me after a day's hunting, I could pick the critters out of her coat. I would put them into a glass of water, they would sit on the surface tension ;D - same if tipped into the loo! and if I put them down the sink, they would jump up on2 the porcelain! They do crack easily between the finger nails ;-). Our cat was white, so fair game going through his coat too.
Each flea is specific to it's host. Mice don't usually carry fleas :-\.
Glad that you got puss sorted :-))). Does she eat more with the steroid treatment? I use ordinary household spray for carpet moth etc., can't remember the name of the flea treatment either ::).
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They're vets, they'll take the p*ss when they can. Ours is about a third more than the agricultural suppliers so we don't get anything from them except prescription medicines. Apparently animal health check certificates to take a pet to the EU is noticeably cheaper at large animal vets than small animal ones (around £50 instead of over £100).
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Ha Jaycee,my vet tried to charge me £18 for a packet human piriton,I really can't stand most vets >:(
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We put flea killer on our dog today. She’s had a wash n brush up and looking all glamorous. ;D
Don’t want pesky fleas on her now. >:(
Bloody vets! They don’t half take the p*#*#. 😡
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As with care homes, we pay for the whole business plan: buildings, insurance, wages, vehicles ............
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CLKD i can't think where else thje fleas have come from, i don't get cats in the garden, but was thinking mice could have got fleas from hedgehogs,
It is only since the blanket incident that they appeared,
I also sent for some Frontline spray,in a panic, in case i couldn't get rid of them, very small size was from vets £30, i didn't get
The one i ordered is500mil, didn't realise it was so big,£25 online, didn't notice at the time of ordering it was coming from France, so took a few days,
I think i will have enough for the rest of their lives
I always use Advantage, but was so horrified at how many i think i freaked out
Also of course washed everything in sight at 95dg,vacuumed and washed all carpets and rugs
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A boil wash should do it ;). The important place is along the edge of the carpet along the skirting boards ..........
Do b aware that cats will die if a dog product is used :-\ . If my pets had fleas I would treat, I think we put far 2 many chemicals on our animals. I have wondered if that's why my dog got lymphoma :'(
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CLKD yes it was a boil wash i used, i usually use Advantage spot on for cats,every so often, but not every month, more as a precaution as never seen fleas on any of them, and i had 6 cats until the last few years when most of them got very old,
The only other thing i can think of which has caused them are bird fleas,as the boy kies under the bushes often, we have lots of pigeons, and magpies apart from the usual small birds
Years ago,i was covered in what looked like flea bites, but had no animals
I went to the Drs as i could fathom out what they were ,just lots of itching,he said they were probably bird fleas and they could drop through vents and wall cavities,,
I had no contact with animals at all, so was a mystery to me
I sprayed everywhere again last night as found a flea on my hand,vacuumed again and washed carpets again ,done all floors not even carpeted,even windowsills etc, everywhere in fact
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Fleas are good survivors. Birds rarely have fleas ........ mites, yes in the feathers. I had to treat our chickens with mite powder regularly. Red mite can be dangerous, hides in nooks and crannies as well as the scales on their legs. Very very tiny. Wild birds rarely go back to their nesting sites due to infestation, unless like ospreys they build new beds each year.
A good spray round the edges of the floor near the skirting board. DH has washed our lounge furniture and carpet this morning :sweatdrop:.
Make sure that you comb through their coats often, I loved flea hunting ;D with a special comb that was supposed to ping when it killed one ::). Think that was a gimmick!
At least U won't need a visit to the Gym this week!
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Hopefully got rid of the fleas,but keep checking and with a nit comb as well, but was horrified to find my boy cat must have sneaked back into the room, after i had seen him go upstairs,
I came down in the morning to find him in the room i had sprayed,poor cat,i was worried to death i might have poisoned him, he did seem a bit off and slept a lot, but still was eating, thank goodness,he's ok
Yesterday brought in all the sheets i had washed out of my airing cupboard, just in case,and sorting them out today found a tick on one of them, thank goodness i saw it, checked all others seem fine, and checked cats,both fine,
Can't understand how it came to be on a sheet though,
I did read that ticks and fleas are rife this year