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Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: Roobee on July 26, 2021, 07:08:39 AM
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Does anyone else feel more stressed about covid this time around?
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Stressed about Covid itself, no.
Stressed about the politics around covid, a definite yes.
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Hello ladies.
I am most definitely stressed about COVID because the government seems to be following a 'herd immunity through infection' policy. I presume this means that they want everyone to catch the virus.
We keep hearing that being double jabbed is good but 40% of people who are ill enough to be in hospital have been double jabbed so the protection isn't that great. Also what about the people who develop Long COVID?
I feel that we have been abandoned to our fate so no wonder my anxiety is high!
Take care ladies.
K.
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I agree Kathleen. They started out with the herd immunity policy then when Bozo got it we took sensible precautions. Now we have a health secretary who still thinks he's chancellor with policies that protect the economy but not health. So they're trying to pretend it doesn't exist. We're in greater danger now than at any time with any infected person able to stand right next to you and cough on your face. Wearing a mask and keeping your distance is such a small inconvenience I can't understand why they would scrap it, it makes protecting yourself impossible.
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Glad it’s not just me! I feel worse now than I ever have.
The vaccines are fab but I assumed things would be so much better with them. I agree it doesn’t help that the government seem to think get out and live your life and take your chances!
My mum has advanced dementia and we manage as a family with her at home, as well as a carer morning and night, and it just stresses me to the max every time I have to go and help. Think I just hoped we would all feel a lot better about it once we had vaccines ☹️
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I feel a bit more stressed and disappointed because it looked like we were out of the woods then this Delta variant took off and it all started again.
I know far more people who have tested positive this time and many more who have had to isolate.
But fingers crossed things are looking better.
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I'm having to isolate atm as the lady I work with has tested positive, her hubby and 2 children ( aged 11 & 7) are positive too. They have no symptoms at all, and both double jabbed. It concerns me that the jabs are not giving any symptoms ( in some cases) and therefore people aren't aware they're positive. I know they say the numbers are going down but there's not as much testing. I said to my hubby, my friends children literally tested positive the day before the last day, so how many other children could be carrying it and now they are going on hols etc. No ones fault just whats happening. Its very scary. I have only had 1 jab, not due my 2nd for 5 weeks
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What has stressed me today is a family member who thinks being double jabbed has made her invincible. This is obviously nonsense, especially as I have four friends who have had COVID despite being vaccinated. I guess it’s her lack of concern for anyone else that wound me up.
I’m happily still wearing my mask, trying to socially distance and using hand gel at every opportunity ;D
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How many of those in hospital are really really ill, that's what the public aren't being told. How many are in ICU or needing sedation for ventilation or have underlying conditions ? As for the pinging app, ditch it. Too many false +iv - what people forget is that 1 does not have to isolate if pinged. 1 may well have passed on the virus by the time one gets that app message by which time it is too late to isolate 2 protect others.
We know that vaccinations don't protect people from carrying the virus. The 'flu vaccine gives 65% cover, C-19 about 75%? I know 5 people who have been ill with a 'virus' - all were vaccinated at the beginning of 2021 - 2 would probably have required hospitlistion without having been jabbed. All were too ill to get tested to see if it has been C-19 infection.
Keep washing hands
Keep wearing the 😷
Keep sensible distancing
There is so much difference between the hand gels too >:(
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I agree CLKD. We are just being fed numbers but not what they actually mean.
In the trust where I work we are given figures weekly on admissions but they have now decided to distinguish between inpatients who have been admitted with covid as the primary reason, patients who have other conditions but covid is exacerbating them and patients who are in for something else but have been tested and found to be positive but are asymptomatic. Thats what the public need to know but I think they should stop publishing daily figures now as it’s just contributing to the climate of fear.
I know a lot more people who have had covid this time round and many more who have had to isolate but I’m not stressed, just fed up. It’s gone on too long.
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Exactly how I feel blot. :(
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Exactly Blot. That would give a clearer figure 2 the public as well as anyone working on the time and effects of this Virus. Statistics can prove what 'they' want them to prove ;)
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Every time we think we're getting out of it it seems to get worse again >:(.
I'd like more detail on the death statistics - number who have been doubled jabbed and a distinction between those who've died because of covid and those who happen to have had a positive test but actually died from an unrelated cause.
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The Government tried to make out 12 months ago that all those who died were affected by Covid-19 until relatives began to kick up! the truth is unlikely ever to B found. Why would it be necessary to treat a death as Covid related when the patients had been in Hospital for a while for a completely irrelevant reason: why, because the Government didn't want the public to know that patients were catching C-19 as in-patients? They have ruled by fear and are still continuing to do so by having too many 'experts' spouting too many different scenarios.
We don't get told of daily deaths usually, why is it necessary now, 2 me that's a breach of confidentiality.
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As for the pinging app, ditch it. Too many false +iv - what people forget is that 1 does not have to isolate if pinged.
I dont have the app. I was contacted by test and trace. It is a legal requirement to stay at home and isolate if contacted by test and trace, you are warned you can be fined if you don't do it. I dont know about the app as I haven't used it. My isolation finishes today :banana:
I gladly still continue to wear my mask 😷
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We don't have to isolate if pinged. By the time the app goes off, it could be 5-10 days ::) by which time the germ has been passed on.
Or vaccines are coming to the end of shelf life so will be destroyed? There is now debate about whether 'we need' boosters/not; at the same time as 'flu jabs! I think not, over loading the system isn't the way to go. I will have the vaccine booster but not bother with the 'flu one again.
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I'll have both. I didn't want to catch flu before covid and that's not changed
Two more friends have tested positive. Both double vaccinated and showing no symptoms. They only found out due to the twice weekly testing done at work. My son's just been contacted by NHS test and trace. He's not very happy. He's double vaccinated and he also had the virus last year. This will be his third lot of isolating!
Taz x
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I think that people in your son's situation should be tested more thoroughly i.e. anti-body blood tests and a proper medical overhaul. There have been many false positives with T&T as well as with pinging.
He stood beside someone who has tested positive, is that correct? When did they get a +ive test I wonder ........... and how long ago. Was it a person he knows?
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I'm not sure that he is in an unusual situation. Many people I know have had the virus despite vaccination but only find out when doing the free lateral flow tests twice a week. I am one of the few of my friends who isn't doing them and feel I should definitely start as it seems to be the only way to know if I'm carrying the virus. It's a work colleague who was in a meeting with him for 40 minutes. One isolation was obviously when he got covid last October and the other one was a ping which he did because he felt he should although it's not a legal requirement. It's just the way things are now and it's not a case of 'if' we get it but rather 'when' I feel. Fingers crossed vaccinations continue to keep us out of hospital.
Taz x
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This isolation is costing the Economy huge amounts :-\ as well as upping stress 4 many ! How is he feeling?
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Hes feeling fine and testing negative on the lateral flow tests. I've lost track of what the rules are!
Taz x
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From Monday they alter. Again ::)
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I don't feel particularly anxious but beginning to feel like a guinea pig :o- The Team that developed the Oxford vaccine say no boosters required: Boris however >:(. DH will have one, I can't be bothered. I won't be having the 'flu jab either. I think too much too soon! Unless anti-body testing becomes available so that those who require a booster get them?
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I will be very happy to have booster and flu jab!
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Not at the same time ? :-\ isn't that over doing the immune system?
The News today - "People will be offered their 3rd booster" :-\ ............ DH told me to stop shouting at the BBC as they can't (apparently) hear me. :-X. But no one has had a 'booster' have they ? We've had 2 vaccines ................
I won't be having the 'flu jab. I did last year but with being masked and people remaining at home, plus keeping distances, the 'flu wasn't a problem, nor D&V.
What happened to the 20,000 new nurses promised 3 years ago :-\ ???
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I thought that over the summer booster jabs had been tested. But can't remember where I heard it....
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All jabs will have been tested. But R they necessary :-\
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I'm only have the booster and or flu jab if my GP completely 100% backs me for having it as I am sure the first and second vaccines have made me very tired and unwell. Also I rarely do much so fairly low risk in catching anything at the moment
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I’m not old enough for the booster but I wouldn’t be having it if I was
I had covid in January.. first jab end March 2nd jab June and to be honest I haven’t felt 100% me since January and add to that hormones ..
I couldn’t pin point what started my aniexty… but it was out of those 3 and i won’t be adding to it
My mom said she will have hers but that’s her choice as it’s her body ..
My husband is 52 and he said No
He as also had covid same time scale as me.
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DH tried to explain how the booster will boost my immune system against X, Y, Z ........... probably 'they' don't know enough about how long the vaccine lasts and it's too expensive to do anti-body testing on everyone? If boosters were recommended for the Spring I might be more supportive.
This again is about 'helping the NHS' instead of getting more staff etc.. Ambulances are waiting up to 17 hours B4 unloaded patients into A&E, leave alone getting patients into a bed. The whole system was grinding to a halt in the 1980s ............ but no one listened :'(.
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Israel have been giving boosters and it has greatly reduced the incidence of serious illness several fold. Even comparing to those who had two jabs. Although the waters are slightly muddied because they only had three weeks between first and second vaccines. So could argue their waning efficacy was greater than ours.
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Petrified at the thought of the booster. It's giving me so much anxiety. Have had continual palpitations since first one back in April, and wont take a third 'til someone gets to the bottom of my problems. What I would like to know is that will our vaccine certification (which stands at the moment from having the two shots) be null and void if we refuse the third. I feel like I am being blackmailed into taking it so that I can have liberties. And then, I would also like to know that if the vaccines we have had already start to wain after six months, then what happens six months after the booster? Another booster? Just watching Dr Hilary on tv this morning about ongoing plans going into winter and I really want to punch his face! He's prattling on about bloody facemasks again which I hate. They have given me the biggest anxiety of anything Covid related. Nobody, anywhere, is giving me any faith at all that this will ever end. (I know it probably wont), I feel like it's Groundhog Day. Lorraine is now saying we 'will all just have to learn to live with it' with an accepting wee smirk and giggle! How can we ever learn to live with something and try to feel even a teeny bit of normality when the doom and gloom of it all is forced upon us daily from the media and press, telling us the number of cases, number of deaths etc. No wonder anxiety and mental health issues are on the rise. But them, if this is your problem, don't expect to see a doctor, anytime soon, as the NHS is under so much pressure!
Rant of the day over!! Off to do my breathing exercises!
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We don't have to show 'certificates' any more. I think that they should have been made like Passports 4 us to carry when necessary as too much is reliant on modern technology. I will not be buying a smart phone as I rarely need to show that I have been vaccinated. Europeans are used to carrying ID on a daily basis, something that the UK never took up even though many wanted to remain over there ;-)
If you are having palpiataionts it's unlikely to be the effects of the vaccine holidaylover - more likely to be peri-menopause . Many complain of it even prior to C-19.
Facemasks kept the UK safe along with isolation. Because we simply didn't mix. It is what it is. Many have to wear Burkas or worse .......... How about sourcing a transparent face shield rather than a mask, 1 that you can see/be seen in ? I love my masks.
I saw our GP within 8 days recently. If U don't ask, U won't get!
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Well I wont be buying a smartphone either. And nope, I hate any kind of mask/facecovering, plastic or material. Causes me way to much anxiety so I just don't go out anywhere they are needed. Never been in a shop since last July, cafe or restaurant, bank or post office, so I rely on others to do things for me. It's a nightmare. I detest Nicola Sturgeon with a passion and what she is doing. She will never acheive zero Covid in Scotland and we simply cannot be expected to live the rest of our lives covered by masks for evermore, well that is unless you are seated in a busy restaurant or are attending a big football match, or writhing up against a hundred strangers in a nightclub. But I cant make it from the front door of the restaurant to the table.
None of it makes sense to me and makes me furious that there seem rules for some and not for others. If I need to move away for Scotland I may have to for my own sanity and to simply live my life. I exist at the moment, that's all. I am in Scotland, so the passports will be needed, but how they will be policed is another issue. I don'believe masks should be legally mandated now, I feel it should be up to the individual to make their own decision. For example, why shouldn't I be able to go into my local supermarket when hardly anyone is in and none of the store workers are wearing masks now. I manage, in saying that, to get my haircut, a brief in and out with already wet hair, to be dried at home. Absolutely nothing is a pleasure right now.
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Whereas many of our shops still ask for masks 2 B worn, as well as staff using them :-\. It's about protecting everyone.
What I hate is 'them' changing their minds almost every hour >:(
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I hated the masks at first but now I feel really strange without one on! They used to make me feel claustrophobic and breathless but I found if I sucked a mint or boiled sweet it got rid of the feeling. Sounds daft but worked for me. I help support a neighbour with dementia and sometimes I am in her house for three hours at a time so it was difficult to tolerate the mask at first.
Sorry you are feeling so anxious over having to wear a mask holidaylover and the idea of a booster.
It is still a terribly stressful time but unfortunately it does appear that this virus will be around for a while yet. :hug:
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I am no fan of sturgeon (that's an understatement) but I'd rather have her for health secretary than javid. The 'lets pretend it doesn't exist' attitude didn't work out well last time.
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We have to live with any virus, why is this 1 any different at this stage? I haven't heard of many getting D&V or the 'common' cold though I did have the snuffles for 3 days with a dry through in May 2020.
Every germ is carried, person to person. It's about building immunity now, surely? Continue with hand washing, masks when necessary: I forgot mine earlier and felt naked :o !
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All the people i know that have had covid after 2 jabs have had AZ. We knew it wasn't has effective as the Pfizer but at least they havent ended up in hospital or worse dead. I will be having the booster as its Pfizer and hopefully after having covid plus 2 AZ jabs and a Pfizer booster i will be able to get back to some sort of normality, i will still wear a mask in crowded places it feels like a comfort blanket now. My daughters friend who was terrified of needles and had no jabs has just died of covid age 39, was fit and well and left a wife and 2 young children, this is still here and we still need to protect ourselves. I know the side effects are not nice, I've just stopped having night sweats since June, never had before even through menopause but its not had bad as covid..
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Several people with a fear of needles have sadly, died. Because this fear isn't unusual the medical profession should have given it some thought and arranged support. So sad ............