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Menopause Discussion => Personal Experiences => Topic started by: Midnight Shadow on June 28, 2021, 08:13:04 AM

Title: Foods and Atrophy
Post by: Midnight Shadow on June 28, 2021, 08:13:04 AM
Hello ladies, does anyone find that certain foods can cause their Atrophy to flare. On holiday and thought I would have my favourite Lasagne. Was fine all day Friday, pure bliss and ate the lasagne in the evening. Saturday, burning all day. Sunday pure bliss again all day. Ate onion toastie Sunday lunch time and in the evening drank a sparkling blackberry and elderflower drink. Woke up this morning burning. Just trying to figure out if any foods are affecting my Atrophy. Why good one day really bad the next?.  Thought maybe the acid in the drink. See the practice nurse next week for an HRT review so may ask her. Hope she doesn't take me off any of my treatments and is nice. I couldn't manage without them. Replies and thoughts appreciated.
Title: Re: Foods and Atrophy
Post by: CLKD on June 28, 2021, 08:19:38 AM
Did U have the runs after these foods?  How is your urine?   Vaginal Atrophy affects the whole area: if your urine is acid then you may get burning on the outer labial region.  Making sure that you wipe correctly is important.

The answer is no ......... R U using VA treatment [it's early, sorry I can't remember  :-\]. 
Title: Re: Foods and Atrophy
Post by: Midnight Shadow on June 28, 2021, 08:36:56 AM
Thanks CKLD,  it's a minefield all this. Have had the runs lately, thought probably from the health tablets I take. Been tested for UTI all clear. Trying to drink more water. Yes using vagifem 3/4 times a week in am.  Estriol mixed with Yes OB  sparingly, nightly and Balance Active pessaries nightly. Epaderm moisturiser as an when needed.  Trying to do all the right .
Title: Re: Foods and Atrophy
Post by: CLKD on June 28, 2021, 09:54:01 AM
Try using the 'vagifem' for 5 nights straight 2 see if there's any improvement.  4 me it takes one small spot in the vagina that isn't covered by 'ovestin' to make me very sore.  Fortunately, the outer labial area isn't affected.  I am aware however, that my pee often doesn't flow where I expect  :o ...... which makes my buttocks sore  >:(
Title: Re: Foods and Atrophy
Post by: Midnight Shadow on June 28, 2021, 04:47:57 PM
Thank you for responding CLKD. My problems are nearly all external.  Have sat nearly all day today and now suffering. Out for a meal soon so more sitting. No tomatoes or tomatoes based foods, no fizzy drinks. My burning is like a friction burn  after sitting. Nice when you do get a good day. Hoping tomorrow will be a good day.
Title: Re: Foods and Atrophy
Post by: CLKD on June 28, 2021, 08:51:58 PM
Get a proper support cushion from a mobility shop, one with a hole in the middle 2 relieve pressure.   Friction from knickers won't help.
Title: Re: Foods and Atrophy
Post by: Whatsupwiththis on June 29, 2021, 05:38:52 PM
Hi midnight S.   I too have difficulty sitting.  I was dx'ed with provoked vulvodynia as well as  VA (one lucky lady 😖) which is quite common and sitting is a major issue   I've gotten to the point of avoiding sitting at all costs.  The joys of being female.
Title: Re: Foods and Atrophy
Post by: Wrensong on June 29, 2021, 08:29:30 PM
Anyone whose GSM causes marked bladder discomfort/cystitis type burning, might be interested in this link listing foods & drinks most/least likely to be problematic.  The entire site is a good resource too.

https://www.ichelp.org/living-with-ic/interstitial-cystitis-and-diet/elimination-diet/least-and-most-bothersome-foods/
Wx
Title: Re: Foods and Atrophy
Post by: Postmeno3 on June 30, 2021, 07:22:24 AM
Hi! Is it me? I can't figure out what's bothersome and what's not! 🙄😂
Title: Re: Foods and Atrophy
Post by: Wrensong on June 30, 2021, 10:00:36 AM
Perhaps the link doesn't work well  :o - are the column headings missing when you view them PM3?  Least bothersome LH column.  Most bothersome RH.  Excluding that lot could be an unwelcome prospect for some people, I know, but the list might help identify some foods/drinks we may not have considered potential culprits.  I cut out some of them years ago (& wasn't eating others anyway) when IC was very problematic for me & it did help.  Struggled to do without natural yoghurt which I'd been eating for many years for gut health, but unfortunately it does seem to be a bladder irritant for me these days.
Wx
Title: Re: Foods and Atrophy
Post by: Postmeno3 on June 30, 2021, 10:21:21 AM
Certainly on my phone there are no columns, just a long list. It might be okay on my laptop. Yes, all the things we think are good for us may not prove to be after all!
🤔
Title: Re: Foods and Atrophy
Post by: Wrensong on June 30, 2021, 10:42:27 AM
Ah!  Sorry about that. I do all forum stuff on laptop.
Title: Re: Foods and Atrophy
Post by: CherrySG on June 30, 2021, 01:05:31 PM
Wrensong thank you for the link.  :)

Was wondering why it's playing up so badly today. Lots of chocolate yesterday  ::)
Title: Re: Foods and Atrophy
Post by: Wrensong on June 30, 2021, 05:57:55 PM
I find Green & Black's cocoa, which I love, one of the very worst things for it Cherry.  How can that be fair?!
Wx
Title: Re: Foods and Atrophy
Post by: Midnight Shadow on July 02, 2021, 06:42:27 PM
Thank you for all the responses. Since cutting out fizzy drinks and tomatoes have had three better days. Maybe just coincidence. Now drinking much more water. Not so good today, but have sat quite a lot. CKLD suggested a cushion, I have 3 Putnams cushions and two which my sister made, slightly smaller. They have the cut out for the vulval area. They dowels ease the pressure. Also have a small donut cushion. Could set up my own cushion shop. Anyway, hoping for a comfortable 5 hour journey home tomorrow. Hoping things start to settle then. See the practice nurse on Monday for an HRT review. Just hoping she allows me to stay on all my treatment. Hope other ladies are getting relief.
Title: Re: Foods and Atrophy
Post by: CherrySG on July 31, 2021, 06:47:54 PM
I find Green & Black's cocoa, which I love, one of the very worst things for it Cherry.  How can that be fair?!
Wx

So I quit chocolate. Has made the world of difference. But of a shame though 🍫  :'(

If course quitting coffee would be just as beneficial, but ugh, just can't bear to.  :)
Title: Re: Foods and Atrophy
Post by: Wrensong on August 01, 2021, 09:46:45 AM
Oh Cherry, what a shame  :(  Dare I say chocolate turned out to be bitter-sweet for you.  Past my recent flare now, I find I can get away with a square a day of good quality, 70% cocoa solids dark chocolate as a treat after lunch, but liquid cocoa seems unfortunately consistently too irritant for the bladder.
 
Really good that you're feeling so much more comfy though. :)