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Title: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Gnatty on April 25, 2021, 04:45:27 PM
Does anyone have a positive experience of having their second dose yet? I am really hoping I don't experience the same or worse side effects than first time round! Or is it just pot luck??
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: milly on April 25, 2021, 04:49:56 PM
Not had my second one yet, but four of my friends have. All but one had 3 days of side effects with first dose, but nothing, not even a headache, with second, none of them.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Gnatty on April 25, 2021, 05:12:42 PM
Now that is good news!
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Taz2 on April 25, 2021, 05:51:03 PM
Astra seems to be giving side effects first time around and has less on the second whereas Pfizer is the opposite.

I hope you escape second time.

Taz x  :)
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Gnatty on April 25, 2021, 06:06:38 PM
Thank you! :)
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Taz2 on April 25, 2021, 06:16:16 PM
I've got my second Pfizer one on Saturday. We'll have to compare!

Taz x
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: CLKD on April 25, 2021, 07:07:25 PM
Our 2nd AZ is in mid-May.  Am dreading it  :-\
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Joaniepat on April 25, 2021, 07:15:52 PM
My second Pfizer was tougher than the first. Arm more painful and for longer, and felt tired for a week.

JP x
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: groundhog on April 25, 2021, 07:33:46 PM
I’ve had both and had no side effects from first, was exhausted  after second but this may not have been the vaccine x
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Dierdre on April 25, 2021, 07:48:06 PM
My second dose of AstraZeneca is beginning of June and ive decided im not having it unless by then im offered Pfizer or Moderna. If a vaccine is not safe for all age groups then I have no confidence in taking it.
Ive suffered terrible anxiety after the first dose with pains in my legs  and chest a couple of weeks after and im not putting myself through that again. I had Covid last year.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: CLKD on April 25, 2021, 07:51:15 PM
I don't think we have a choice.  I would also not have anything different . AZ last time so I'll want the same.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: menomope on April 26, 2021, 08:19:10 AM
Hi Gnatty
I had my second AZ vaccine 11 days ago. First vaccine put me in bed for 3 days with fever etc. I did not feel better for a week. But I have had covid which can make side effects worse. I was very nervous about the second vaccine. At one stage I was in two minds about having it but I did. This time around I did not have the same reaction. I just felt a bit spaced out for a few days. I feel Ok now.
Maybe I am a bit nervous still about the rare blood clots  until two weeks has passed. But thats just the way I over worry!
Other friends also say they did not get the same side effects second time round either.
Let me know how you get on- best wishes
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Gnatty on April 26, 2021, 10:07:05 AM
Thank you, Menopope. I am an over worrier too and every time I get the slightest mildest headache I start worrying about bloodclots even though its been over 5 weeks. I still have a bit of a wait for my second, but it's on my mind!
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: CLKD on April 26, 2021, 11:20:28 AM
Go 4 it?  Side effects won't B anywhere near as bad as C-19 might.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Iris67 on April 28, 2021, 01:48:36 PM
My mum had her 2nd yesterday - she is 74 and had a horrible time with the first - really bad. She has a bit of tiredness/fatigue and a sore arm and that is it.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Gnatty on April 28, 2021, 02:49:35 PM
That's good to hear Iris67, it must have been a worry to her going for second dose.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: loonarider on April 28, 2021, 02:59:09 PM
Is there a way to find out which vaccine you're getting? My first dose is this Satuday and I'm 43. :/
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: CLKD on April 28, 2021, 02:59:47 PM
It should tell you on the invite letter from the NHS. 
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: menomope on April 28, 2021, 03:04:56 PM
Hi Loonarider
I think it very much depends on where you are in the UK and the system your area uses.
Here we had a phone call from our local surgery. You turn up at the allotted time and have whatever vaccine that your part of the country has available. So unless you have known allergies to anything in the vaccine offered it is assumed you have that one.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: loonarider on April 28, 2021, 03:35:56 PM
Hi Loonarider
I think it very much depends on where you are in the UK and the system your area uses.
Here we had a phone call from our local surgery. You turn up at the allotted time and have whatever vaccine that your part of the country has available. So unless you have known allergies to anything in the vaccine offered it is assumed you have that one.

Thank you  :)
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: CLKD on April 28, 2021, 03:37:50 PM
 It has been reported that : A single dose of a coronavirus vaccine can reduce household transmission of the virus by up to half, a study shows.
Those given a first dose of either the Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccines - and who became infected three weeks later - were between 38% and 49% less likely to pass the virus on than unvaccinated people, PHE found.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock described the study's results as "terrific news".

He has urged "everybody to get their vaccines as soon as they are eligible".

In the study, protection against Covid was seen from about 14 days after vaccination, with similar levels of protection regardless of age of cases or contacts, PHE said in a statement.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: sheila99 on April 28, 2021, 03:41:34 PM
If you're getting at your local surgery probably AZ as the won't have the facilities or numbers for pz. If it's at a vacc centre I don't know.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: loonarider on April 29, 2021, 12:33:07 PM
It should tell you on the invite letter from the NHS.

I didn't recieve a letter, just a tesxt with no information except to book.  :-\
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: loonarider on April 29, 2021, 12:34:33 PM
If you're getting at your local surgery probably AZ as the won't have the facilities or numbers for pz. If it's at a vacc centre I don't know.

Hi there, yes it's at a vaccination centre. Thanks, I guess I'll have to find out on the day.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Patsie on April 29, 2021, 12:50:32 PM
Hi,

I sailed through my first injection of the Pfizer vaccine.  Had my second last Saturday and reacted to it.  Temperature, chills, headaches and couldn’t move arm for 24 hours.  It’s now day 6 since having it and still feel lightheaded and dizzy at time together with a headache when I bend over.  Hopefully it will get better soon.  Hating the side effects but happy that I have had the vaccine.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Katejo on April 29, 2021, 03:00:17 PM
Does anyone have a positive experience of having their second dose yet? I am really hoping I don't experience the same or worse side effects than first time round! Or is it just pot luck??
  I had the 2nd AstraZeneca on Tuesday. Felt mildly under the weather during the night but it may not have been caused by the jab. Didn't get the muscle/joint aches which I got first time round.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: loonarider on April 29, 2021, 03:40:57 PM
Hi,

I sailed through my first injection of the Pfizer vaccine.  Had my second last Saturday and reacted to it.  Temperature, chills, headaches and couldn’t move arm for 24 hours.  It’s now day 6 since having it and still feel lightheaded and dizzy at time together with a headache when I bend over.  Hopefully it will get better soon.  Hating the side effects but happy that I have had the vaccine.

Hi Patsie,

I need some help. Where did you have the vaccine? And if you don't mind me asking how old are you? And why we're you offered Pfizer as opposed to Astra, any particular reason?

Thanks  :D
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Taz2 on April 29, 2021, 04:00:24 PM
I had Pfizer as this was in February and Astra stocks hadn't been fully rolled out. The first Pfizer vaccination is usually ok but the second one can make you feel ill for a few days. Astra is the opposite with worse symptoms after the first vaccine.

When you receive the first one the second one of the same vaccine is reserved for you. I'm not sure whether you can swap easily.

Taz x
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Patsie on April 29, 2021, 07:29:30 PM
Hi loonarider,

I’m 57 I did not have a choice of which vaccine to have.  Back in March I was sent a text from my surgery saying that they were offering vaccines to those 55 and over and that it would be the Pfizer vaccine at the doctors surgery in the next village. I assume I had the Pfizer as this was what had been allocated to them.  My work colleagues have all had the AstraZeneca and we are all in the same age bracket.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: CLKD on April 29, 2021, 08:03:50 PM
Initially Pzifer couldn't be stored everywhere so it was restricted across the UK to those with appropriate fridges.  My BinL has had both, AZ, no problems either time.

Do report on the yellow card as any information will help Research.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Debs165 on April 29, 2021, 11:03:29 PM
I had my second Astra Zeneca jab today, so far feeling okay xx
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Salad on April 29, 2021, 11:10:09 PM
I had my second Astra Zeneca jab today, so far feeling okay xx

Had mine Tuesday- arm is a bit tender and I feel fatigued, but so much better than last time 😊
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: loonarider on April 30, 2021, 07:01:02 AM
Hi loonarider,

I’m 57 I did not have a choice of which vaccine to have.  Back in March I was sent a text from my surgery saying that they were offering vaccines to those 55 and over and that it would be the Pfizer vaccine at the doctors surgery in the next village. I assume I had the Pfizer as this was what had been allocated to them.  My work colleagues have all had the AstraZeneca and we are all in the same age bracket.

Thanks.

Cool that you were told which one you were getting, me? Nothing. :-\

Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: CLKD on April 30, 2021, 08:30:48 AM
Then ask ?  All the people I have spoken to have been told prior to the injection which they are being given as well as which symptoms to be aware of  :-\ also it says on the card which I was given on the day, along with the date for the 2nd injection.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: menomope on April 30, 2021, 10:07:44 AM
No harm in ringing and asking. I didnt know until  I was in the room with the nurse.This was back in January and most people who were invited that day had Phizer. I had AZ as at that time people with severe allergies ( me) were advised against Phizer but I think that advice has now changed. I did get a card but no date was written on for the second vaccine. they rang me up in my twelfth week. But DH has been invited back for his second and its only 6 weeks since his first dose!
So the bottom line is- the systems vary depending on where you live in the UK and even vary at the same clinic!
That said it is now 15 days since my second AZ vaccine and all seems well so far!
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: loonarider on April 30, 2021, 11:32:31 AM
Then ask ?  All the people I have spoken to have been told prior to the injection which they are being given as well as which symptoms to be aware of  :-\ also it says on the card which I was given on the day, along with the date for the 2nd injection.

I have just called my GP, the vaccination centre in Yeovil where AI'm meant to be having it tomorrow, tried to find info online. I give up. Such a simple request and nobody seems to know. So it mean dirivng 38 miles only to find out that it's Astra or something and then I ave to drive all the way back. I'm really irritated right now, not helped by being in that TOM.

Yep, you'd think it would be a simple case of just calling. Ha ha.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: loonarider on April 30, 2021, 11:35:25 AM
No harm in ringing and asking. I didnt know until  I was in the room with the nurse.This was back in January and most people who were invited that day had Phizer. I had AZ as at that time people with severe allergies ( me) were advised against Phizer but I think that advice has now changed. I did get a card but no date was written on for the second vaccine. they rang me up in my twelfth week. But DH has been invited back for his second and its only 6 weeks since his first dose!
So the bottom line is- the systems vary depending on where you live in the UK and even vary at the same clinic!
That said it is now 15 days since my second AZ vaccine and all seems well so far!

Yea, I give up, I guess I'm gonna find out there and then. Glad to hear everything is fine with you after having Astra :). Lots of variables, and I have an overthinking/overanalytical mind, worst mix. Maybe should just throw caution to the wind...

My partner is teasing me about how pro vax and pro science I am, yet having hesitancy towards the astra vaccine. Fun times  >:(
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: loonarider on April 30, 2021, 11:37:17 AM
And sorry Gnatty, I've hijacked your post. No more from me here   :-X
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: CLKD on April 30, 2021, 11:52:00 AM
What's your problem loonarider?  Better to have a vaccination than to get C-19?  Does it really matter which?  Don't waste an appt. in Taunton if you really don't want a vaccine at this point?  The vaccine centre will know which they are using this week. 

Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: loonarider on April 30, 2021, 12:33:43 PM
What's your problem loonarider?  Better to have a vaccination than to get C-19?  Does it really matter which?  Don't waste an appt. in Taunton if you really don't want a vaccine at this point?  The vaccine centre will know which they are using this week.

I ask myself what the problem is a lot these days. I've decicded I will take the vaccine. And yes covid 19 would not be great. Just super anxious. Thanks CLKD
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: CLKD on April 30, 2021, 12:35:09 PM
I used to get anxious when I was on The Pill  ::) - such a tiny tablet but I would hold it in my hand for ages B4 swallowing it.  Every night  :-\.  Still here!  Now I take reasonably sized tablets without thinking twice ......... 

Ask at the vaccine centre if you have any worries; don't feel rushed, we had time to chat prior and after the jab.  MayB take a note with you so that you don't forget?
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: loonarider on April 30, 2021, 12:46:48 PM
I used to get anxious when I was on The Pill  ::) - such a tiny tablet but I would hold it in my hand for ages B4 swallowing it.  Every night  :-\.  Still here!  Now I take reasonably sized tablets without thinking twice ......... 

Ask at the vaccine centre if you have any worries; don't feel rushed, we had time to chat prior and after the jab.  MayB take a note with you so that you don't forget?

Thank you again for the advice and will deifnitely take my journal. I think I will be OK. To think I was so excited to have the jab a few months ago. :/
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: ElkWarning on April 30, 2021, 01:23:40 PM
Had my second Oxford / AZ jab on Wednesday, nowhere near as bad as my first at the beginning of February - took me three weeks to recover (lost temp control, bad tummy, banging headaches, crushing fatigue). They're very careful though. I had a long conversation with the nursing sister at the vaccination centre. She was great. And this time I'm doing everything to support myself while my immune system gets on and does its thing. My son is extremely clinically vulnerable, so that made my decision relatively easy.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: CLKD on April 30, 2021, 03:44:53 PM
There are so many different reactions that we are bound to be worried.  I wondered the other day if it is wise this time for us both to attend at the same time  ::) ......... in case it's worse.  I will lay out appropriate medication B4 we go, in case ......... what ever it's unlikely to last for more then 36 hours ;-)  ???
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Ju Ju on May 04, 2021, 02:29:26 PM
Had my 2nd Astra Zeneca yesterday. Achy arm, head ache and jelly legs today! Think I can cope! The experience was a 100% better than for the first jab, which was traumatic. Hour long queue as the computers had crashed. I was suffering from asthma and had been for several weeks, so told the lady on duty at the end of the queue that I wasn’t capable of standing so long, where upon she radioed for a wheelchair! But as I had been shielding, it upset me being around crowds. This time I walked straight in, no queue and would have been able to walk straight out had I not had an anaphylactic reaction to kiwi fruit many years ago. Kept sitting for 15 minutes as a precaution. No problems, probably cos they don’t use kiwi fruit in the vaccine!  As to the serious side effects, there is far, far more likelihood that we would be killed getting to the vaccination centre! And DH has had some of the best driving training in the world!  ::)
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: CLKD on May 04, 2021, 03:40:38 PM
Well done!  Now get those feet up and rest  :tulips2:

Drink plenty  ;)
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Ju Ju on May 04, 2021, 04:41:47 PM
Now that’s something I’m very good at!
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Taz2 on May 04, 2021, 04:49:05 PM
Now that’s something I’m very good at!

Well done! I'm still learning how to do that!   ;D

Taz x
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Ju Ju on May 04, 2021, 04:53:10 PM
I’ve a 1st class degree in it! ;D
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: CLKD on May 04, 2021, 05:34:33 PM
I have A** for feet up in front of the TV  ;D

We get our 2nd ones next week.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: jules55 on May 08, 2021, 10:16:42 PM
I had my second dose of Pfizer this morning and to be honest I was dreading it after reading some of the posts, but so far all I've had is a sore arm, and even that's not so bad. I think I must be very lucky, or the real side effects haven't kicked in yet! 😲.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: CLKD on May 09, 2021, 07:57:28 AM
Did U sleep?  OK this morning?
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: jules55 on May 09, 2021, 08:39:37 PM
Yes thank you CLKD , I was fine, and have felt ok today, so looking positive. Xx
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: CLKD on May 10, 2021, 07:49:12 AM
 :cheer:

We've been 4 R 2nd doses this morning.  Now I'm waiting for side effects to start  :-\  ::). we have to wait 2 weeks B4 we can mix with others ...... so no visiting Mum.  Yet.
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Ju Ju on May 10, 2021, 12:57:20 PM
You probably won’t have any side effects. Most friends in my age group didn’t. I was told by the dentist I should let the doctor know I had a 5 days headache. As my DD said, I like to be different!
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: CLKD on May 10, 2021, 01:31:05 PM
 :thankyou:  ? fill in the yellow card ?  it may be owt or nowt  ::)
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: Ju Ju on May 12, 2021, 10:07:48 AM
I wasn’t given any info on yellow cards or what to report. What do I do?
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: CLKD on May 12, 2021, 11:29:50 AM
I did a quick search: 'cos I was thinking about how to report at 1.30 a.m.  ::)

The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) is the executive Agency of the Department of Health and Social Care that acts on behalf of the Ministers to protect and promote public health and patient safety, by ensuring that medicines and medical devices meet appropriate standards of safety, quality and efficacy.

The Yellow Card scheme run by the MHRA and is the UK system for collecting and monitoring information on safety concerns such as suspected side effects or adverse incidents involving medicines and medical devices.

The scheme relies on voluntary reporting of suspected side effects or medical device incidents to be reported by health professionals and the public, including patients, carers and parents. Reporting helps others.

The purpose of the scheme is to provide an early warning that the safety of a medicine or a medical device may require further investigation. It is important for people to report problems experienced with medicines or medical devices as these are used to identify issues which might not have been previously known about. The MHRA will review the issue and if necessary, take action to minimise risk and maximise benefit to the patients.

Reports can be made for all medicines including vaccines, blood factors and immunoglobulins, herbal medicines and homeopathic remedies, all medical devices available on the UK market and reports of safety concerns associated with e-cigarette products . The MHRA is also able to investigate counterfeit or fake medicines or devices and if necessary, take action to protect public health.

The scheme collects information on suspected problems or incidents involving

side effects (also known as adverse drug reactions or ADRs)
medical device adverse incidents
defective medicines (those that are not of an acceptable quality)
counterfeit or fake medicines or medical devices
safety concerns for e-cigarettes or their refill containers (e-liquids)
Title: Re: Astra Zeneca Second dose
Post by: CLKD on May 12, 2021, 11:30:27 AM
Surprisingly we have been fine ......... thus far  :D

I was never offered the yellow card system when I reacted to ADs in the 1980s/90s  :-\