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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Itwillpass on March 15, 2021, 09:30:43 AM
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I’m 46 been in peri menopause for about 2 years but last 10 months have floored me. Periods started to get much shorter 2 days & dark brown but still quite regular. Tried femoston 2/10 for 5 weeks had awful bloating & digestive issues. Doc put me on Evorel Sequi no change, last few weeks put extra patch on (100mg) no change! I just feel awful everyday on waking, can barely function like I’m being poisoned. I feel constantly fluey, buzzy jelly legs, hot, cold, I get sweats at night behind my knees, elbows & chest, I feel off balance, no appetite, bloated, loose stools on waking, no appetite, back ache is so painful doc says tension, my eyes constantly want to close I’m exhausted, anxious about everything, muscles/joints ache, I basically want to curl into a ball! Can hormones really make you feel this unwell, I’m convinced I’m slowly dying even though had several blood tests the last one showed slightly raised white blood cells but not deficient in anything. The doc is phoning me back again lunchtime & I don’t know what to do I’m just completely lost :'(
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Yes!!! This was me. At 41.
I won't bore you with all the details. But I'm now 44 avd still struggling. But I am 99% certain all my problems stem from hormones.
You mention you feel poisoned?! I too have used that phrase. I tried HRT in December and felt soooo poisoned. My conclusion now is that, whilst my own estrogen can dip causing symptoms, it's actually very erratic and at some times maybe too high. HRT tops up...
I'm now trialling lots of different combined pills with a hope to suppress my own system during this erratic phase. The estrogen dominant pills caused me problems and some left me with that poisoned feeling. So I'm now trying a prog dominant, but still with a good dose of estrogen in it. Lots of side affects... But I don't feel poisoned...
Maybe ask the doc about the pill????
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Omg hello! I’ve been following the two threads you on are on about this, it’s been very interesting. I think I might mention when the doctor rings, to be honest I really cannot feel any more ill :'( I’m not sure if I’m very sensitive to medication, I tried amitriptyline for the back pain & was so drowsy on it which just added to my existing fatigue. Thank you for replying x
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I could have written your post. I feel awful. I posted a couple of days ago about the fact that since I had my first period in 11 months a couple of weeks ago, I’ve felt awful.
I have on off symptoms such as aches, pains, vertigo and phases of tiredness but this last week I have felt like crying. I’ve had nausea, daily headaches that come and go, feeling off balance, heavy head, stuffy sinuses, shaking, feeling unsteady, the list goes on.
At first I thought I was coming down with something but the fact it started after my period ended is making me think hormones.
You have my sympathy and I can relate to everything you have said.
Big hugs
Sara
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Hi Sara big hugs back, it’s just awful I’ve not moved off the sofa for an hour now just exhausted no motivation :( I’ve just found your other post & I forced myself to the shop last Thursday & felt just like you crushing fatigue & felt sick when I got home. I wonder if it was anxiety after pushing myself? It’s weird I feel like crying but don’t even have the energy to cry. Thank you for replying it’s good to know I’m not alone x
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Have you all had blood tests recently? Low VitD levels can cause similar symptoms, I would do 20 mins. weeding then have to sit absolutely still for 2 hours . :-\
Eat little and often, keep well hydrated. Some ladies find that keeping a mood/symptom/food diary useful.
Group :hug:
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Hi CLKD yes had bloods done middle of January all fine, slightly raised while blood count? I take vitD3 1000iu daily for months now :( I do eat every hour fruit/nuts/toast etc even though I have little appetite at least 2 litres of water a day (I have a Fitbit tracker) there’s no let up as I just feel like this daily I think my anxiety has a lot to answer to x
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Hi
Just to chime in and say have you tested your iron? The reason I say this is I've had an horrific time with peri with heavy cycles, estrogen surges, histamine intolerance etc but turns out a massive missing bit of the puzzle was iron deficiency (not to be confused with anaemia which is one of the end results of iron deficiency, but iron deficiency is the 'disease' if you see what I mean). This is extremely poorly understood in primary care and in gyanaecology, and I had a private iron infusion in Jan, and it's changed my life. Massive, massive improvement in symptoms. All cycling women need their Hb to be 130 or above (anything below 127 = iron deficiency) and a ferritin above 100 to not have iron deficiency symptoms. Pretty much every single GP and gynae would argue with that, but the iron specialists I've been dealing with are emphatic on this point. I'd encourage any woman struggling with peri to ensure her iron (and other blood builders such as folate and B12) is optimal (and not to take a GPs word for it).
Some good resources here: https://www.oatext.com/iron-deficiency-without-anemia-common-important-neglected.php and here: https://theironclinic.com/ironc/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Patient-information-for-iron-infusion.pdf
I'm fortunate I have a brilliant gynae who's been in the trenches with me and she agreed that many of the peri women she sees are in fact iron deficient, this means both doctors and patients end up chasing their tails on trying to sort out symptoms when in fact what they need is a good dollop of iron.
I've now just completed my first month of Qlaira (the new pill for peri women, it's like contraceptive and HRT in one) and doing OK, hoping this will over ride the ups and downs of my own hormones and stop the blood (iron) loss. There's another thread going on Qlaira is you want to see how we're all doing.
However, key thing for me has been fixing the iron and it's now my life's mission to never, ever, ever get iron deficienct again, as the symptoms were life wreckingly catastrophic. I cannot believe how much better I feel in terms of symptoms, mood, sleep and generally feeling like my 'old self' just for sorting out iron (and yes it is a bit of a soapbox of mine).
Reb
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Hi Reb thank you for all that will have a read through, all I know is I had my iron tested in January & gp said was fine no idea of levels didn’t really query it, probably just relieved they where fine. How did you find out this was your issue & who treated it? I don’t bleed a lot even on the hrt barely two days really. I’m following those threads this might be my next move? For now I’ve ripped my patches off! Just come off the phone to gp she said that if hrt isn’t helping it’s anxiety & to try duloxetine so fingers crossed & keep pushing on guess :'(
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So I'm guessing your gp thinks if hrt doesn't work, it's not hormones?!?!
This is totally not my experience. When I tried the hrt in Dec (femoston tablets) I only made it 2 weeks as the estrogen alone made me so out of it, dizzy and poisoned. The conclusion can only be too much estrogen. See how you feel in a few days after removing.
I lost the poisoned feeling after stopping, but all my original symptoms were still there, hence me trying to suppress with the pill.
I'm currently on microgynon. As I mentioned earlier, I've tried many, with various issues. Interestingly the contraceptive patch I only survived 4 days as I got the poisoned feeling back. The patch is one of the highest in dose.
I've chosen to stick with the traditional pills, rather than qlaira or zoley, as I'm hoping to get greater suppression. But also because I'm in Scotland and I don't think they'll prescribe without a fight. I'm fed up fighting 🤣🤣.
I did have an NHS menopause clinic appointment last year - they told me to try the pill, ring or patch.
I too seem to be incredibly sensitive to medications. I also font gave heavy bleeds (grateful for that).
See how you go stopping the hrt, then reassess. X
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I could have written similar at the sane age. I felt like I was dying which took me to ENT due to my balance and dizziness being so bad, then getting a head MRI as convinced it was a tumour, to the cardiologist as then questioning whether it was my heart.
I even demanded to be tested for Lyme disease as I too felt like I'd been poisoned.
What I can say is that things got much much better when I hit the full menopause. It's also at the same time that I discovered I wasn't processing but B12 and started to inject myself.
I'm not sure how much one or the other or both is what has made it better, but although the nasty symptoms still come in waves, it's nowhere as bad as it was and I can just about get on with normal life.
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Thanks crispy yes she basically said if I feel worse on hrt come off it then said it’s a natural process we all have to go through :'( so guess I’ll just have to wait & see how I feel, do you think days, weeks, months how long does it stay in your system for?! I think she was a bit stumped as what to advise, but I’ve had to speak with her because my usual gp is so hard to get hold of as she’s so brilliant & the one who originally said peri. I’ll do a reassess & maybe try get hold of her about the pill? But like you I’m getting fed up of it all now x
Hi letmein, wow it’s a nightmare time isn’t it! So it’s got better for you in menopause, I suppose if I stop the hrt I can do a body reset & see where I go from here, what periods are doing etc I think I thought hrt would be a life changer & it isn’t x
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I can also relate to this and have been struggling for a while now. I seem to get the same outcome whatever I try and I'm now considering stopping and trying to reset and start again from a low dose as I'm Peri with fluctuating hormones. The other thing that really bothers me is that when I try to sleep I get drowsy and nod off to be jolted back awake repeatedly and then sleep doesn't happen, I keep wondering if it too high estrogen or fluctuations. I have for the last week been doing blood tests, I'm doing my last one this afternoon to try and build a picture of what on earth is going on. I stopped taking the low dose combined pill 2 weeks ago and am now just on Lenzetto and utrogestan. My bloods on the two morning test have been around 1700pmol and in the afternoon 1100pmol I take my Lenzetto at 8 am. I have all the symptoms of low estrogen, its awful. Any thoughts?
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I think my honest conclusion at the moment is, I'm not ready for hrt. My own hormones are clearly erratic.
I do know that I am functioning a bit better on the pill than on nothing.
My original symptoms like Letnein led me down the ENT route (vertigo and nausea) and an MRI and CT scans... I still get sinusy issues, no idea if connected or not.
For me, I know I can't just ride it out. I'm hoping I can take the pill until all settled down. Others too on this site have told me that they felt better after meno.
You'll probably have thd hrt out of your system quite quickly, but to see whete you are at, you'll prob need to give it a few months. I did 3 months au naturel before Dec... It wasn't great.
Good luck x
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Floo - I didn't find the low estrogen pills helped me. So I'm on a 30mg one now.
Geez, I'm no expert though. My other threads show all the mess I've been through, and still trying to find a pill that works.
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Floo I wonder if it’s the fluctuations in hormones causing the problems, I’ve had one okayish day in March so far or is it too much estrogen making me feel poisoned?! If I can stay off hrt for weeks/months I can reassess but I certainly don’t think I can feel any worse, even if my nausea, back ache disappears & I have a bit of energy back I’ll be happier x
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I may reduce my dose and see what happens, I would like to stop it for a few days and see what my bloods are like to see how much of the hrt i am absorbing. It a minefield it really is. If I could sleep it would be something. Can too much estrogen give the same symptoms as too little? My estrogen was increased rapidly from 1 spray to 3 within 10 days, just wondering if its too much. The first night i added the first spray I had the jolts that stopped me sleeping?
We got to keep hoping we can work it out.
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Hello Itwillpass
A lot of your symptoms resonate with me.
I am post meno and had a break from HRT for about a year. Unfortunately my mood became very low and three months ago I started to use HRT again.
I found a menopause specialist who prescribed Oestrogel and Utrogestan. I was told to increase the gel until I had symptom relief and that up to six pumps a day would be okay. I was on four pumps and not feeling very well and I was then advised to stop taking Utrogestan for a few weeks to see if that was the problem. Throughout this time I have experienced buzzy legs, nausea, lack of appetite, anxiety, headaches, low mood and tearfulnes. Thinking back, some of these symptoms were present much earlier in my menopause journey and I wonder if my high dose of oestrogen has made me revert to a peri menopause state. Your comment about feeling poisoned and concern that your oestrogen dose is too high really struck a chord with me!
I will be following your progress with interest and I hope that you feel better without HRT. I certainly sympathise with how you and the other ladies are feeling at the moment!
Wishing you well and take care.
K.
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Floo it’s such a minefield but yes I think estrogen highs or lows seem to have the same symptoms what I’ve read 🤷🏻♀️ How are you doing bloods? I’m in England & doctors won’t do blood tests for peri menopause.
Hi Kathleen wow that’s really interesting, it must be such a fine balance & maybe yes too much can do more harm than good. I’m going to stay off it & will post my progress on here ::) Its awful knowing other ladies feel the same but also gives me great comfort knowing it’s not just me, take care x
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I have done them privately at the local Nuffield, the specialist wanted me to use their service but it would mean travelling and I'm not well enough to travel I'm too scared now to travel on fast roads it terrifies me, all this in the last two years, I used to drive up and down the motorway daily no bother but now not able to. I also thought that one test isn't going to tell us much so thought I would do them over the week to get a better idea. The meno specialist thought that I may have absorption issues and looking to change the HRT so I want to prove via bloods if I do or not because I like the Lenzetto.
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Oh I see, would mind posting the results when you’ve got them? That’s something else I’ve thought about absorption & I’ve not tried the gel which was mentioned at one point. For now though I’m going without hrt I’ve made up my mind! I also totally get the driving thing, I didn’t drive for weeks because of the anxiety, couldn’t take my son to the dentist either or my daughter for her filling felt like a complete failure. Thankfully mostly I can push through it now (not always) it’s just these physical symptoms which I believe are causing my anxiety x
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Hi itwillpass and all the other ladies here suffering. I too have had all these symptoms both off HRT and on it. I'm currently on HRT (coil and patch). Today, has been off balance, light headed,hot flushes, low mood and general feeling unwell. Went for a walk this evening and was all over the place, likely feet and brain were not working together....... i was just so off balance. Like you all, I'm not sure if it's high or low estrogen that is causing it. I'd live to know. I'm fed up but we must keep on going .I had terrible debilitating symptoms at the very start of my journey into perimenopause 6 yrs ago. I wish I had the magic pill to help all this. I hope we all get there.
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Hi peri-wrecked great name certainly sums a lot of us up! Wow 6 years gosh has it eased at all in that time? What has worked best for you or are you still experimenting? I hate the off balance feeling it really sets my health anxiety off. Slept awful tired but wired, now my limbs are buzzing & I’m exhausted :'(
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Hi itwillpass, thanks about the name. Yes, it is 6 years since I came off birth control and found myself plunged into a living hell......I had one year of being semi normal and then the shakes, jitters, internal vibrations, joint pains, low mood and loads more hit.....u had an idea it was hormonal but I never heard of perimenopause before then. Even my gp was sceptical that it was hormonal but he didnt rule it out it took a lot of tests for other stuff to be ruled out down through the years. I got diagnosed with POI (early menopause) years ago now, I think but I wasn't allowed HRT until i got more tests done.
I only started HRT in December 2020. I must say that knowing it was hormonal helped me stay calm a bit and having other women to talk to. I haven't found any cures yet. It's a battle. One I hope to win but every day can be so different. I hope we all find the magic recipe. I'm going back to my gp soon I think to have a review as I don't feel that different on this HRT.
Stay strong and know others are having the same symptoms and hopefully we will make it.
Thanks
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I have just started a new post but here are my blood results
1161 pmol afternoon taken from hand
1656 pmol mid morning taken from the hand
5283 pmol afternoon taken from the arm
1744 pmol mid morning taken from the hand
2834 pmol afternoon taken from the hand
My ovaries are really trying to keep going.
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Thanks Floo I’ll follow the other thread maybe someone can explain what they mean ::)
Peri-wreaked gosh you have been through it & like me continue to go through it :'( Is going back on the pill an option, there was another interesting thread about this, maybe once I’ve done a body reset see where I am & still suffering this maybe an option. The other hrt my gp said to try was gel (tried tablets & patches). Maybe it’s an absorbing issue? It is comforting knowing others are going through it too take care x
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Peri menopause is brutal for some isn’t it. When I look at my blood results I think how the hell can my ovaries produce that much Estrogen. Even without the hrt my hormones are having some right surges and it’s no wonder I’m so ill. Some hours/ days i would need hrt and some I wouldn’t, how do you work that one out. I don’t know what to do for the best I really don’t.
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Totally brutal Floo, the gp made me feel like a real moaning wimp when she said it’s a natural process all women go through :'( I’m not a wimp I’ve had three children & before peri hadn’t visited the doctors for 8 years! It’s makes sense if hormones are fluctuating wildly, then we add more on top it’s causing the poisoned feelings, but it’s obviously not that simple! x
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Let’s hope our ovaries calm down soon and give us some peace. Over the last 18 months my ovaries calmed twice and I was hopeful, things went calm for about 2 months the first time and then 1 1/2 months the second and then start up again on the rollercoast. I’m trying to look after my 84 year old mum who lives with me, I’m just hoping she doesn’t get really ill because I’m not able to cope or do much at the moment, I have to get better soon. Can your ovaries be suppressed to stop the fluctuations?
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Oh Floo you really have got a lot to deal with, I can barely look after myself at the minute I’m on autopilot most days & hiding just how bad I feel from my kids/hubby. This is what I’m wondering about the pill & suppressing things, following the other thread you’re on with great interest. The other thing is if you suddenly stop producing hormones & feel rubbish it that it, you feel rubbish for ever :o or are we feeling rubbish because of the erratic fluctuations! It’s all too much :'(
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I do believe it’s the fluctuations and our sensitivity to them.
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So day 3 of no hrt last two nights I’ve woke at 3am wide awake, even through my Fitbit says I’m sleeping well, mostly light sleep I’m exhausted. Get these weird waves of chills rise up from stomach & then the usual sweaty knees, elbows, chest. Now I just feel yuck nausea, achy back/pelvis & I’m going back to bed :'( just totally anxious it’s not hormones related, I can barely function & comfort needed please!
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Oh. Itwillpass I really feel for you. My story is exactly the sane, and you feel so alone.
Go back to bed, be kind to yourself. You have other options that your are now thinking of trying. Hold onto that. This is your trial to see how you are au naturel.
I'm experiencing my first migraine on microgynon. Almost 9 weeks in. Migraine avd nausa. Gutted. Other pills hsve given me migraines. On nothing I was getting loads of migraines... I'm back in bed too. 😔
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Thank you CrispyChick really needed to hear that :-* I’m so anxious it’s unreal. My hubby said as he left this morning the oven & bathroom need cleaning, I replied I can barely clean myself :'( I feel so guilty not being able to do just basic things, duvet day for us both then I hope you feel better soon, will have to push myself to get up later this afternoon x
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Ah bless you both. Take it easy and snuggle up.
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Thanks Floo just got up sort of drifted in & out of sleep getting woken by these weird stomach/chest waves, another new symptom, need to eat but no appetite :( feels like my body is buzzing. Wonder if I should of eased off the hrt slowly instead of just stopping, this is where I get weak & slap a patch back on?!
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Hi itwillpass,
I hope you are feeling better. It's such a minefield trying to get this right. Im having a low day too. Trying to decide what I should do next regarding HRT etc.
I hope you are doing better. Fingers crossed.
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Hello peri-wrecked 😊 yesterday was much the same as the day before stayed in bed till 2 just getting up to eat (which I get no enjoyment from) It’s such a completely exhausted scary feeling, like I can barely keep my eyes open actually really worries me. Today a bit better but pushing myself because hubby is here, other than such awful back pain which I can also feel into my hips, managed to potter about in the garden for an hour or so. Everyday is just so different isn’t it, keep me posted on how you’re doing & what you decide to do with the hrt x
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I'm glad you managed a few hours pottering in the garden.....I understand what you mean about back and hip pain. I have struggled with back pain over the years at at the start of my journey my back was very bad.....now it is more hip pain and lower back. I had one day during the week where my hip and back went out. I was like an old lady hobbling into the shop and I'm only 38....following morning it was gone. Weird how that happens. My right hip is giving awful trouble which is why I am going to try and make an appointment with my gp. It has been giving trouble a few years now but I was putting it iff because I had so many others tests done before my early menopause was diagnosed.....🙄 well fingers crossed we both get relief soon. I am definitely thinking of going on pill to suppress my one hormones......one day I can be pretty good and the next I'm not. It's strange. But you know what I mean.
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Do U keep a mood/food/symptom diary?
I found the waking hormone 'cortisol' was my enemy. It would wake me anytime after 3.00 a.m., I would wake terrified. Beta-blockas helped from 2002 until 2020. Eased those awful adrenaline surges.
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Peri woke this morning feeling awful, back/hip pain, jelly legs, yawning non stop! Had a weird light headed moment 9.15 last night & heart rate dropped to 60 which I’m still freaked out by :'(
CLKD I do keep a diary doesn’t seem any rhyme or reason to any of it. Can cortisol stay in your system & make you feel awful for hours after?
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Hi Itwillpass,
Sorry you are not well today. I've been feeling very poorly myself today too. Feel jittery, nauseous and just low mood.......I had a few hours of feeling okish and now feel miserable again. It's hard to know what to do next. I hope things ease up for you.
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I believe that cortisol stimulates adrenaline which can certainly make 1 feel ill for hours. In one psychological session the therapist told me that the body is unable to maintain a panic attack for more than 20 mins.. I walked out. My longest was 3 days :'(.
I find when stressed in the mornings, a walk round my garden to focus on something helps [on fine days of course]. Also eating regularly which when feeling ill, is very difficult 4 me.
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Just a quick catch up, so last couple of days I’ve actually felt slightly better, not the usual poisoned feeling maybe? Managed to do some housework & gardening which still leaves me feeling exhausted but also distracted, I would say my bloating & nausea is definitely less, appetite still not great but eat because I know I have too! The only thing is the last two mornings I’ve woken with the most awful sickly headache absolutely hideous. Hope all you lovely ladies are taking good care of yourselves.....well the best you can with these awful hormones x
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Hi all,
Sounds mean but I'm so glad to read posts like this, makes me think I'm not going la la as I think! ;D
I had a shaking episode last night which scared me to bits. Whole body shook like an adrenaline rush. Plus I also have the jolting awake that someone mentioned further up the thread. I've never felt so ill since being in peri. Feel like I'm in someone else's body.
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Just to chime in and say have you tested your iron? The reason I say this is I've had All cycling women need their Hb to be 130 or above (anything below 127 = iron deficiency) and a ferritin above 100 to not have iron deficiency symptoms. Pretty much every single GP and gynae would argue with that, but the iron specialists I've been dealing with are emphatic on this point. I'd encourage any woman struggling with peri to ensure her iron (and other blood builders such as folate and B12) is optimal (and not to take a GPs word for it).
Reb
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Reb, by hb do you mean haemoglobin? That comes up on a blood test as Haemaglobin Estimation? Mine is 140 (not sure why it's an estimation though), serum ferritin is 40. Does this indicate I should take additional iron or am I barking up the wrong tree? Ferritin range is 10-291, gp thinks it's fine but it seems close to the bottom to me.
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Hi ladies here’s a catch up, so felt just as bad off hrt as on?! Spoke to usual lovely gp who has put me on gel & 14 days of Utrogestan 200mg vaginally. Finished the Utrogestan stage had a tiny tiny barely noticeable bleed. But basically have felt no different in fact the last week or so has been awful, every morning have buzzing/fizzy arms & legs. I’m so nauseas & bloated my gp has put me down for a non urgent ct scan of abdomen & pelvis. I’m so exhausted even though I sleep well?! Had bloods done yet again have enlarged red blood cells & b12 was 799 which is high? Hope you are all feeling better than me x
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I am in tears reading all your messages as I am feeling just the same. I feel odd today and really nauseous so although I know I need to eat I can’t face it.
I can’t believe that the menopause can make me feel so very ill although the symptoms don’t seem to link together and all tests have been clear so far. I had what I assume was a hot flush last night where I felt really hot and spaced out, then thought I would faint followed by a bout of diarrhoea! I was fine afterwards just felt a bit sick.
I have had a nearly constant headache for 2 months which 4 doctors and other professionals have said is a tension headache but I can’t shift it and nothing helps.
My eyesight is giving me grief and new glasses haven’t really helped so I am always talking to optician to sort it out but no luck so far. I am on now my 3rd pair of new glasses in the last year!
The menopause seems to have triggered health anxiety so I do worry about every niggle now and it then escalates. I am currently worried about a mole on my back but in googling it ended up diagnosing myself with a brain tumour and IBS..
In case any of you have advice for me, I am on oestrogel 1 pump and utrogestan 12 days a month.
So sorry you are all going through this too.
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Oh Ellen May I really feel for you 😢 I’m not actually sure if I’m now suffering more with anxiety, I totally understand the rushing to the loo then feeling sick & exhausted after this for me is anxiety. I was on gel & 12 days of utrogestan (my 3rd type of hrt in 11 months)! I’ve been off it a week now & actually feel better, not sure what is going on with my body at the moment but don’t underestimate how poorly anxiety can make you feel x
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Thank you so much for your lovely reply Itwillpass.
I wonder a lot of mine could be anxiety too. I’ve never had problems with anxiety until the last few years so it is still taking me time to recognise the episodes..
I had a month off hrt as doctor wanted to see if that was causing the headaches but as they didn’t stop I am now back on it. Can’t say I really noticed any change though so not sure it is helping me.
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Hello all,
wanted to jump into this discussion, as the topic is just spot on what I've also been questioning over the past months. Can it really be 'just' menopause that causes all these symptoms and makes me this ill? But apparently it can be, or at least no clear physical reason has been found to the adrenaline surges, insomnia, heart arryhtmias, stomach issues etc etc the list goes on. :o And not to even mention anxiety, which seems to be the hardest one to get under control. I'm on HRT since last year, now trying out patch after couldn't find balance with oestrogel.
Its a total rollercoaster, one day slightly better, then the next day really bad and so on.. From my symptom diary I can see progress since April, but its so slow that some days like today it just feels like this will never get better (though I know most likely it will, eventually).
Take care ladies and lets continue sharing -it helps a lot! xxx
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I read this week that low VitD levels can cause sight problems. Mine often feel blurry and gritty so when I find my VitD Capsules I will take 1 a day. It won't do any harm and may improve my eyesight. 1 shouldn't require new glasses that regularly, did U see the same optician Ellen May?
I felt quite ill a few weeks ago and realised that I wasn't eating enough face2face Veg., DH has been stir frying a lot more with diced chicken breasts, or adding sweet corn, peas or other tinned veg. on the side of my lunch time pizza. it's improved me enormously! ???
Sometimes when I have to dash to the loo I feel ILL after: hot/cold, weak, shivery - like my body has gone into shock. I often have to sit down quietly for about 20 mins. after.
If you think there is a mole do get it looked at. I have a blemish which is probably an old age patch but it's altered character in recent months. Off to the GP next week for a thingy put over it to make sure.
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I have seen the same opticians but they can’t seem to work out the right prescription for me as yet! My sight does seem to vary day to day and as I am so short sighted it’s hard to get the varifocal bit right. I was taking vit D tablets but haven’t for a while so will get back onto them and up my veg intake too 😊
I sent a photo of my mole in to our gp today. He thinks it’s a harmless angioma but has sent the picture to dermatology to check so that was good news.
That’s just how I felt after rushing to the loo so in a way it’s nice to know I’ve not alone!
I just find that some days I can manage well with my symptoms but other times it’s horrendous and I can’t cope..
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Hello all,
wanted to jump into this discussion, as the topic is just spot on what I've also been questioning over the past months. Can it really be 'just' menopause that causes all these symptoms and makes me this ill? But apparently it can be, or at least no clear physical reason has been found to the adrenaline surges, insomnia, heart arryhtmias, stomach issues etc etc the list goes on. :o And not to even mention anxiety, which seems to be the hardest one to get under control. I'm on HRT since last year, now trying out patch after couldn't find balance with oestrogel.
Its a total rollercoaster, one day slightly better, then the next day really bad and so on.. From my symptom diary I can see progress since April, but its so slow that some days like today it just feels like this will never get better (though I know most likely it will, eventually).
Take care ladies and lets continue sharing -it helps a lot! xxx
That’s it exactly!
I can’t really believe that the menopause can make you feel this ill but the symptoms don’t seem to join up into anything else..
It’s a good ide to keep a diary, so think I will try that.We definitely should keep sharing and taking as it’s the only way to stay sane and navigate our way through this.
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Just re-igniting this topic!!
How did all you ladies get on this year???
I came off the pill in Sept. I had swapped to yet another one to try and reduce the bad effects of microgynon - it made me feel ill.
First few months off have been anything but great - but now, the last 2 weeks have been awful. So bad that I think (thought) I was ill.
I caught covid - got through that fine. At the same time I had my first month of anovulation - this resulted in an extemely late period (first time ever) and, as I understand it, my progesterone will be low. Since that period I've felt ill. fluey symptoms (sore throat, weird ears, that fluey feeling in your blood). Extemely achy back. No temp. No cough. No runny nose. I just don't feel well.
As a consequence I've been to gp. Had various tests. Nothing showing. As I'm at the start of my cycle after a non ovulatory one... Maybe its my high estrogen.
Sigh. I just go round in circles.
So yes, I really do find hormones can make me feel this ill.
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Hello Crispy :-* so basically I’m still struggling along too. Been off hrt for a couple of months now tried desogestrel mini pill in November but this also may me feel poisoned so stopped after just 3 weeks. My anxiety is better lately & energy level most definitely better off hrt. Still struggle with nausea, buzzing legs/arms, waking early some mornings, still have that feeling ill/fluey in general, still got ibs (as the doctor calls it) bloating, sore abdomen. Had a transvirginal scan in October have a 3cm cyst which needs checking in 3 months times again. Had another CA125 blood test 3 weeks ago thankfully that was fine. But my god my back ache is seems to be getting worse, sometimes feel it in my hips but my doctor still says it’s tension or the ibs?! On my period now but just get very minimal dark blood. Like you Crispy I’ve done a couple of covid tests on the really bad days but always negative, I even put off my booster till the new year because the day it was due felt awful. So yes like you struggling on & going round in circles ::)
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Yes feel like death here!
Off HRT due to bleeding and tummy pain.
All symptoms have returned but worse. Still bleeding etc. Can’t have scan until February! Just been left to it now.
A slow death it feels like!! 😥
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Hello itwillpass :). Hello Nas :)
Glad I resurrected this thread then.
Nas - what stage/age are you at??? Itwillpass and myself both peri.
A slow death it very much feels like - I can't believe how ill our hormones actually make us. I had covid 5 weeks ago. I don't wavt to belittle it for others, but for me, this hormonal hell is much worse. I've been in this hell for 5 years!
So I stopped the pill abc expected it to be rough. The first two months were bad, but this month I'm off the scale. My own body is now poisoning me!!!! It's horrific. I know I'm at my worst when I lose my appetite. Poor gp has been testing me for all sorts this week... Cause it just is unbelievable how ill we fan feel.
So I've been seen privately and did bloods. My progesterone is low, so I'm starting prog only. Had to wait until day 11. So started last night. So I can only assume my estrogen is causing my poisoned feeling - which makes sense when I went off the scale on an hrt trial. Also, as I said, I had my first anovulatory cycle last month, which means, I won't have produced progesterone.
So... Onwards avd hopefully upwards.. But right now I could've been fed rat poison. That's how I feel.
What's your plan it will pass???
Where is your back ache. I've got incredible pain in top half of back. That's new for me. Connected or not, I don't know ::)
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Crispy, I’m post menopausal by three years.
Been in hormonal hell for 3 years. History of BC, finally allowed HRT via specialist team at Chelsea Westminster hospital. Ongoing Pain/ bleeding has caused me to stop HRT, but can’t get scan for weeks.
Feeling like death is an understatement!
Sadly I cannot advise, but can offer sympathy and support. I feel we all need degrees in hormones to help make any sense of what’s going on !
🌸🌸🌸. :)
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Hello ladies, a slow death yes hit the nail right on the head there! I still find it hard to believe hormones can cause us to feel so ill but I guess having what feels like ongoing tests & bloods coming back fine just carry on & hope for better days. I’m going to stay off hrt for at least 3 months reassess my own cycle because my periods certainly seem to be very minimal. I’m currently doing a two week reload of vagirux after dr Googling (yes I know I shouldn’t) hoping my ongoing back & abdominal pain/period type cramps are VA? My back ache is low like each side of my spine & feels like a burning/stinging. Also take menopace & vitamin D which I’ve taken for about two years now. So good to hear from you both again even though we are still struggling I can accept these awful symptoms are more hormonal related x
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Thanks ladies. It really helps to know you're not alone.
I also get very light period itwillpass. I have horrific poisoned feeling, pmt, blah blah blah... Then hardly anything to show for it. Which, I'm defo not complaining about. But I just don't get how I can feel this vile...
Really hoping it is progesterone deficiency. The mini pill didn't help me either, but that's not natural progesterone.
I'm so sorry your back ache is not getting sorted either. I've only had mine for 3 weeks. It's very intense and in a really odd spot. It's possible it's not connected.
As, I feel for you. No advice im afraid as still peri. But I noticed you'd made a post, hopefully some of the nice ladies can help.
Waiting for scans etc is torture. Xx