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Title: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on August 11, 2020, 06:13:49 PM
I always carry cash.  I can't remember my PIN numbers nor do I trust the switch across a pad idea .......... the card could be nicked and used by others and the pad could register the card several times.

My hobbies are cash-based.  Very few card holders ........... though it makes us all vulnerable. 

I also use cheques - to pay for Mum's paper deliveries and to send monies occasionally to cousins abroad from Mum's cheque book.
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: littleminnie on August 11, 2020, 06:18:02 PM
Very rarely use cash.  If I draw £100 out it lasts for months.
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Sparrow on August 11, 2020, 08:32:59 PM
I haven't used cash for months.  Write about one cheque a year.  Make a lot of payments by BACs.  Contactless is much better than cash.
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on August 12, 2020, 07:48:29 AM
There is no evidence that notes or coinage carry C-19.  It's the Banks efforts to get rid of easy money payments for those who like cash, stall holders on Markets and Antique Stalls ............ if I want a banana whilst walking round town I'm not going to flash a card for 90p!

Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on August 12, 2020, 08:41:54 AM
Has anyone been affected by cash/notes being transferred?  I carry small sanitiser bottles all the while in my jeans back pocket.  Used often. It has never crossed my mind that I would be infected by using cash. 

R U going somewhere exciting?  It's too warm for me to venture far but I feel a garden centre visit on the horizon once the air cools, maybe a Herb Garden ;-)
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Taz2 on August 12, 2020, 08:52:36 AM
The virus can survive on paper for up to three days and on material for the same amount of time too. It survives longer on plastic I believe. This is why all returned library books are quarantined for at least three days and why we quarantine our post/packages unless urgent. Metal coinage is especially more likely to harbour the virus apparently. It does get confusing!

Taz x  :-\
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Taz2 on August 12, 2020, 08:56:40 AM
There is no evidence that notes or coinage carry C-19.  It's the Banks efforts to get rid of easy money payments for those who like cash, stall holders on Markets and Antique Stalls ............ if I want a banana whilst walking round town I'm not going to flash a card for 90p!

I do! Most places have cash machines now. Our local market did well before covid. I feel safer with card or phone payments and I'm sure it's safer for retailers too rather than having large amounts of cash. I do think it should be a choice though.

Taz x
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Two hoots on August 12, 2020, 08:57:56 AM
I always have cash in me and have been against going cashless, but since lockdown ive hardly used any, lots of shops ask if you will use contactless, its not so long ago shops had signs saying that there was a minimum amount you could pay on a card  :-\
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Kathleen on August 12, 2020, 09:06:18 AM
Hello ladies.

When my son was asked to pay his rent by sending the landlady twelve post dated cheques he had to order a cheque book and we had to tell him how to fill it in lol. He is twenty seven and it seems  young people use plastic for everything.

I have noticed that the smaller shops are happy to take cash but the assistants usually sanitise their hands after touching coins or notes.

I have now mastered the self service tills in supermarkets and my credit card is contactless. However yesterday I needed to call for help and the assistant stood right next to me, though of course we were both wearing masks. I then realised how close I was to other people using the tills. Now I'm wondering if I should go back to queueing at a distance from other shoppers and be served by someone who is behind a screen.

Wishing everyone well.

K.
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Sparrow on August 12, 2020, 10:05:52 AM


I have now mastered the self service tills in supermarkets and my credit card is contactless. However yesterday I needed to call for help and the assistant stood right next to me, though of course we were both wearing masks. I then realised how close I was to other people using the tills. Now I'm wondering if I should go back to queueing at a distance from other shoppers and be served by someone who is behind a screen.

Wishing everyone well.

K.

Unfortunately this is my experience also.  I noticed that before masks were mandatory, those wearing them forgot about social distancing.  This is now widespread. 

I now only go into shops where I know what I want and can be out in under 5 mins.  No more browsing for me. 

If the government thought the wearing of masks would encourage people back into the shops, they were wrong.  Numbers suggest footfall has actually fallen since there introduction.   
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on August 12, 2020, 10:26:02 AM
How many of you wipe the keypads B4 using them  :-\ at cashpoints etc.? 

As well as the hand sanitiser bottles at stores?  How does 1 know that the person infront isn't infected?  I usually pout a lot of the stuff on2 my hands and then smear over the bottle and plunger ..........
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: littleminnie on August 12, 2020, 11:55:00 AM
I use sanitizer on my hands after using the cash point.  Not that I use it much these days.  My son never has cash and pays for everything on his card (well his watch). 
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on August 12, 2020, 12:05:52 PM
A watch  ;D ...... that wouldn't work 4 me as I have too much static and watches stop within 20 mins.  ::)

I think that people over all are getting blase and not using sanitiser often enough when up and about!
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on August 12, 2020, 02:46:00 PM
...... and me.  I fought hard to keep cheque books too.  Banks will put themselves out of a job soon, I will be putting mine under the bed, there is so little interest paid on savings  >:(
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Taz2 on August 12, 2020, 03:52:10 PM
I've got a cheque book but only to pay the milkman but he's gone online/phone payments now so I probably won't need it!

Taz x
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: sheila99 on August 12, 2020, 03:55:07 PM
I work on a use it or lose it policy. The banks have already tried to stop cheques and the government have said they'd like a cashless society so I make sure I keep using both. We have only one bank left within 8 miles, that will go too if people don't use it. Many old people can't cope without them and it won't be long before we're that generation.
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Taz2 on August 12, 2020, 04:15:11 PM
I don't know what else I can use it for?  :-\

Taz x
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Sparrow on August 12, 2020, 04:23:43 PM
Many retailers no longer take cheques.  They are open to fraud and getting lost.

Any large amounts I aways pay with online banking.  It's fast and you know exactly which bank account you are paying into.  You can also chose which date the money leaves your account.

Progress is inevitable .  Otherwise we would still be bartering with beans and piglets.
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on August 12, 2020, 04:29:50 PM
Give me a piglet any time  ;D

I pay Mum's paper bill with a cheque
Until 12 months ago I paid my nephews by cheque but then Royal Mail lost one - twice  >:( - now DH does a bank transfer thingy

He pays with a swipe debit card ........... but that can be stolen and swiped often until stopped

I pay cash in the village shop and card/sweet shop in the town
I pay case in the supermarket
I pay cash to antique dealers
Cheque payment at the Vet when necessary

Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Taz2 on August 12, 2020, 04:43:16 PM
My supermarket bill is usually £150 plus and I'd hate to have that much cash on me nowadays. The pub is one place where I had to pay cash as it was a 'no cards' pub. The landlord has had to install a card machine now as, since covid, he's lost trade due to people not wanting to handle cash.

If I swipe my contactless card three times in a short time I'm asked to enter my pin for the fourth purchase. This stops fraudulent use quite quickly.

Taz x
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: sheila99 on August 12, 2020, 04:49:59 PM

Any large amounts I aways pay with online banking.  It's fast and you know exactly which bank account you are paying into.
Er... no. Get one digit wrong and you've paid the wrong person and may or may not be able to get it back. OK so after many years they will finally confirm the name on the account but the only time I've tried it didn't match and it didn't tell what name it was so I couldn't check. Limit of £30,000 from my bank so no good for anything properly big.

My bank told me it could be up to 10 times before it asks for the pin for a contactless card so you could lose up to £450 if you haven't reported the card lost or stolen.
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Sparrow on August 12, 2020, 04:54:14 PM
Cut and paste, then there is no mistake.
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Katejo on August 12, 2020, 05:01:12 PM

Any large amounts I aways pay with online banking.  It's fast and you know exactly which bank account you are paying into.
Er... no. Get one digit wrong and you've paid the wrong person and may or may not be able to get it back. OK so after many years they will finally confirm the name on the account but the only time I've tried it didn't match and it didn't tell what name it was so I couldn't check. Limit of £30,000 from my bank so no good for anything properly big.

My bank told me it could be up to 10 times before it asks for the pin for a contactless card so you could lose up to £450 if you haven't reported the card lost or stolen.
   If I am paying a large amount to a new recipient, I always pay a tiny amount first (£5) and then contact them by other means such as email or phone to check that they have received it before I send the rest.

I use very little cash but I did pay for a coffee with cash today because it is a cafe which I use regularly and they still prefer cash for payments under £5 due to fees on card transactions.

The problem with being totally cashless comes when the bank software fails and suddenly no one can make a payment. Sweden has gone too far that way. I heard that Gothenburg (which I once visited) now has public toilets only accessible with a contactless card.

I don't think it is as many as 10 times before I am required to enter my PIN again with contactless.
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Sparrow on August 12, 2020, 05:39:23 PM
I think loos should be free anyway.

You can get caught not having change as well.
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on August 12, 2020, 07:03:04 PM
One has had to pay in Europe for years.  A lady sits at the entrance of the toilets and glares until you hand over a little more than what is asked for  >:(

I know many people over 70 who don't want a card for their weekly shop  :-\.  I still don't trust cards.

I can't find any evidence that anyone has been contaminated with C-19 by using cash.
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on August 13, 2020, 09:21:40 AM
I don't get that close to anyone when shopping  :-\ .......... I do have a pair of granny pick up tongs , mayB should carry those ?
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: littleminnie on August 13, 2020, 11:54:49 AM
A watch  ;D ...... that wouldn't work 4 me as I have too much static and watches stop within 20 mins.  ::)

I think that people over all are getting blase and not using sanitiser often enough when up and about!

An Apple Watch would work.  Otherwise you’d be in the Guinness book of records
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on August 13, 2020, 11:56:08 AM
Apple Watch = cider  ;D
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Summerwyc on October 11, 2024, 12:26:24 PM
Hello ladies.

When my son was asked to pay his rent by sending the landlady twelve post dated cheques he had to order a cheque book and we had to tell him how to fill it in lol. He is twenty seven and it seems  young people use plastic for everything.

I have noticed that the smaller shops are happy to take cash but the assistants usually sanitise their hands after touching coins or notes.

I have now mastered the self service tills in supermarkets and my credit card is contactless. However yesterday I needed to call for help and the assistant stood right next to me, though of course we were both wearing masks. I then realised how close I was to other people using the tills. Now I'm wondering if I should go back to queueing at a distance from other shoppers and be served by someone who is behind a screen.

Wishing everyone well.

K.
It's impressive you've mastered self-service tills. Stay safe.
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on October 11, 2024, 04:40:44 PM
We still carry cash as we go to a lot of antique fairs where case is King.
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Minusminnie on October 13, 2024, 12:36:36 PM
A bit of magic with cash  ;)
Our local bakery will now only take cash.
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on October 13, 2024, 02:34:57 PM
 :ola: :bouncing: :clapping:
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: jillydoll on October 13, 2024, 03:24:17 PM
We only use cash for, the car wash, the local Indian takeaway, and the Chinese takeaway when we use it.
It’s cards or phone we use now.

Oh, it’s a pound coin in the trolly at the supermarket. Which I always use sanitary antibac wipes for before touching.  ;D
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on October 13, 2024, 05:27:10 PM
I HATE standing behind a person trying to pay for goods with a phone  >:( becasue it takes ages!  Why not use the self service area?  I've huffed and puffed many a time .......... I can C that I will be stamping my feet in future  >:(.  Though having said that I had problems with cash last week, those new notes that stick together.  Fortunately the lady was able to count out the 'bits' to make up what I needed to pay and the man behind was very patient.  In fact, we got chatting  ::).  About mangoes of all things  ;D

Today I paid with two £2 coins, not something that we see often. 
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CapriCapri on October 14, 2024, 03:58:30 PM
I love the sense of security in going old-school and using cash.  It also helps smaller businesses as the charges for cards can be too much for them.

I also dislike this world and want to live in 1940 so the cash kind of helps that feeling.............................;}
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: getting_old on October 14, 2024, 04:12:00 PM
My biggest concern with a cashless society is that some people already spend more than they can afford to, and tracking spending is much harder. Looking back, when cash was the only option, people spent within their means. Now with credit cards, etc it's easier to overspend and get into debt, but then so many societies are based / surviving on debt these days  :'(
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Taz2 on October 14, 2024, 06:00:00 PM


I also dislike this world and want to live in 1940 so the cash kind of helps that feeling.............................;}

This is interesting. What is it about the 1940s that attracts you?

I rarely use cash now. The only place we have no choice but to use it, as they don't take cards or phone, is our local pub. We call cash beer tokens  ;D

Taz x 
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on October 14, 2024, 06:45:48 PM
Many will remember how Granny had a tin on the mantlepiece for each : rent, electric, coal, baker, eggs ......... occasionally 1 pot had to be borrowed from to top up when necessary.

I HATE those new notes  >:( but need cash as a security.  Also, if the Big Wide World goes down, as happened earlier this year .......... when supermarket and other Tills etc. won't work: there should be a way for each store to have a cash outlet.  Better than those DIY Tills  ::)
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CapriCapri on October 16, 2024, 01:50:37 PM


I also dislike this world and want to live in 1940 so the cash kind of helps that feeling.............................;}

The sense of community and common purpose ( I do know it was a horrid time for so many). 

I also love Glen Miller and I fancy myself in a WAAF uniform moving model planes around a board in a tense atmosphere.

This is interesting. What is it about the 1940s that attracts you?

I rarely use cash now. The only place we have no choice but to use it, as they don't take cards or phone, is our local pub. We call cash beer tokens  ;D

Taz x 
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on October 16, 2024, 03:12:34 PM
No AB therapies or HRT available in the 1940s  :-\
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Summerwyc on April 25, 2025, 09:10:13 AM
My supermarket bill is usually £150 plus and I'd hate to have that much cash on me nowadays. The pub is one place where I had to pay cash as it was a 'no cards' pub. The landlord has had to install a card machine now as, since covid, he's lost trade due to people not wanting to handle cash.

If I swipe my contactless card three times in a short time I'm asked to enter my pin for the fourth purchase. This stops fraudulent use quite quickly.

Taz x
Agree! Contactless is super handy, and that PIN prompt after a few taps definitely adds a nice extra layer of security.
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on April 25, 2025, 10:09:44 AM
However: in the antiques trade and the Tattoo Parlour accept cash, no cards.  Occasionally there mayB access to card facilities at Fairs but in general, cash is preferred.  As well as car parking machines, the 1 in Buckingham suggests cash or card but the cash slot is covered over  >:(.  I've complained  ;D, U knew I would  :D
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: littleminnie on April 25, 2025, 03:56:36 PM
They want cash so it doesn't go through the books  :o
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on April 25, 2025, 05:15:55 PM
That's nasty - I retort "Prove It"!  The Dealers that I work with are invested in their products and networking to keep their businesses going.


Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Taz2 on April 25, 2025, 06:30:30 PM
All of the local antique fairs/shops we go to and even small music gigs/festivals take cards. Its easy to set up and safer too as no cash to get stolen?

Taz x
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: Madamdlewi on April 28, 2025, 07:28:18 AM

Any large amounts I aways pay with online banking.  It's fast and you know exactly which bank account you are paying into.
Er... no. Get one digit wrong and you've paid the wrong person and may or may not be able to get it back. OK so after many years they will finally confirm the name on the account but the only time I've tried it didn't match and it didn't tell what name it was so I couldn't check. Limit of £30,000 from my bank so no good for anything properly big.

For those who love games but prefer to avoid real money transactions, there is a solution. It is a game (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.qkhl.stols) that uses only in-game credits. It is a fun way to pass the time without financial risk. Sometimes the old ways are the best.

My bank told me it could be up to 10 times before it asks for the pin for a contactless card so you could lose up to £450 if you haven't reported the card lost or stolen.
That’s a good point! It’s scary how easily small mistakes can cause big losses. Banks really should improve verification and security around transfers and contactless payments!
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on April 28, 2025, 08:20:31 AM
Some fairs do have a card system if the wifi is strong enough.

DH tried to pay a bill by card directly to a bank account last week but it kept bouncing, it turned out that the seller had put the wrong codes in  >:(
Title: Re: A cashless society?
Post by: CLKD on May 01, 2025, 11:00:46 AM
I heard part of Jeremy's discussion on keeping cash to hand, after the power outage across Spain and Portugal.  Although when Tills go down we are advised to leave the baskets ...... to avoid theft I suppose.