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Title: China - bubonic plague now!
Post by: CLKD on July 06, 2020, 08:56:50 AM
Authorities in China have stepped up precautions after a city in the Inner Mongolia autonomous region confirmed one case of bubonic plague.

According to state reports, the Bayannur patient - a herdsman - is in quarantine and in a stable condition.

Officials said they were also investigating a second suspected case, according to China's Global Times.

The bubonic plague was once the world's most feared disease, but can now be easily treated.

The first case was reported as suspected bubonic plague on Saturday at a hospital in Urad Middle Banner, in Bayannur city. It is not yet clear how or why the patient might have become infected.

The second suspected case involves a 15-year-old, who had apparently been in contact with a marmot hunted by a dog, a tweet from Global Times said.

A level 3 alert, which forbids the hunting and eating of animals that could carry plague and calls on the public to report suspected cases, has been put in place until the end of the year.
Title: Re: China - bubonic plague now!
Post by: Sparrow on July 06, 2020, 10:22:42 AM
This is a bacterial infection.

There are a few thousand cases every year.

Looks like the news agencies are searching for this type of scare story. 

The best thing is not to spread it across social media.

There is enough more immediate things to worry about.
Title: Re: China - bubonic plague now!
Post by: Kathleen on July 06, 2020, 10:49:57 AM
Hello ladies

Shadeyglade - I agree with you. We don't need more scaremongering.


Take care everyone.

K.









Title: Re: China - bubonic plague now!
Post by: CLKD on July 06, 2020, 11:33:07 AM
It's in China.  Every disease across the World should be in the public domain.
Title: Re: China - bubonic plague now!
Post by: jaycee on July 06, 2020, 02:35:11 PM
The report i read said it came from the 2 people eating a raw [wild] animal, forget what now
Title: Re: China - bubonic plague now!
Post by: Yorkshire Girl on July 06, 2020, 04:07:30 PM
A Marmot according to the teenager!
Title: Re: China - bubonic plague now!
Post by: CLKD on July 06, 2020, 04:53:51 PM
 

The second suspected case involves a 15-year-old, who had apparently been in contact with a marmot hunted by a dog, a tweet from Global Times said.


Hunting with dogs in Mongolia is usual, he probably tried to take the marmot off the dog and was bitten ..........

Well I had a look-C as you do:

The tarbagan marmot has been eaten for centuries in the native cuisine of Mongolia, and in particular in a local dish called boodog. The meat is cooked by inserting hot stones, preheated in a fire, into the abdominal cavity of a deboned marmot. The skin is then tied up to make a bag within which the meat cooks.[4] (bit like haggis ? )


Hunting of marmots for food is typically done in autumn when the animals are heavier since they are preparing for hibernation.[5]

The Russian explorer Richard Maack, who encountered tarbagans in the Ingoda Valley in Siberia, described the tarbagan hunt as follows: [6]

Hunting the tarbagan is quite difficult. It is not easy to approach to a tarbagan within a rifle shot; besides, the wary animal never goes far from its burrow, and, if it is not killed right away, always manage to hide in the burrow. In that case one needs to dig it out, which involves a lot of labor, as tarbagans' burrows are quite deep.



Probably tastes like rabbit  or more gamey, like hare   ........
Title: Re: China - bubonic plague now!
Post by: Sparrow on July 06, 2020, 04:55:40 PM
The report i read said it came from the 2 people eating a raw [wild] animal, forget what now

It's transmitted by flea bites, when the fleas move from infected animals to humans. 

Any reports of 'eating raw  animals' are nonsense.
Title: Re: China - bubonic plague now!
Post by: CLKD on July 06, 2020, 04:56:41 PM
As a disease carrier

Epizootics of the plague occur in tarbagan marmots in northeastern China and Mongolia, such as the Manchurian plague of 1910?1911.[7][8]

The plague in marmots is of the pneumonic form, spread by marmots coughing.[9]  [they should wear masks? ]

The plague can jump from marmots to humans through the bite of the tarbagan flea (Ceratophyllus silantievi), or through consumption of meat.[8]

Marmot epizootics are known to co-occur with human epidemics in the same area.[7][8]

Human plague epidemics in this area are largely pneumonic plague, the most deadly form of plague.[8]

In 2019, a Mongolian couple died of plague after eating raw marmot meat.[10]
Title: Re: China - bubonic plague now!
Post by: Taz2 on July 06, 2020, 05:28:18 PM
Bubonic plague is spread by fleas but other plagues are spread by other means.

Taz x
Title: Re: China - bubonic plague now!
Post by: CLKD on July 06, 2020, 06:28:18 PM
Certainly the plague that isolated the village in Derbyshire was fleas carried on cloth ..........

A small Anglo-Saxon village nestled in the hills of Derbyshire, Eyam has become known as the 'plague village' due to a decision made by the whole village during an outbreak of bubonic plague in 1665.
Title: Re: China - bubonic plague now!
Post by: Taz2 on July 06, 2020, 08:10:05 PM
It doesn't seem to be caused by eating animals but if a captured animal has been infected by fleas then the fleas can also bite the person preparing the meat or the bodily fluids could splash onto cuts the skin or be inhaled - I think that's right. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53305721

There is also a pneumonic plague - again spread by fleas or contact with fluids https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/plague

Plague is totally different though to the current pandemic as it can be treated with antibiotics.

Taz x  :)
Title: Re: China - bubonic plague now!
Post by: CLKD on July 07, 2020, 06:31:19 AM
Now it can - thankfully.
Title: Re: China - bubonic plague now!
Post by: Ju Ju on July 07, 2020, 10:11:43 AM
One day they will look back on this pandemic and say it can be easily treated maybe. We can hope.
Title: Re: China - bubonic plague now!
Post by: CLKD on July 07, 2020, 11:14:34 AM
I think once a reputable vaccine is developed, as long as it isn't too costly for the NHS?