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General Discussion => This 'n' That => Topic started by: CLKD on March 19, 2020, 07:43:46 AM

Title: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: CLKD on March 19, 2020, 07:43:46 AM
As Jari states - no new cases in China - is this reported, hospitalised cases?

Also Korea had no new reported cases yesterday
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: jaypo on March 19, 2020, 08:37:37 AM
And if a country THAT size can get over it,surely itsybitsy U.K. can
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: Jari on March 19, 2020, 08:44:18 AM
I think we probably still have the worst to come, but it is reassuring to see they seem to be starting to get back to some kind of normal in China.. eg Apple reopened their stores.. x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: jaypo on March 19, 2020, 11:46:23 AM
Haha yes of course,we can't live without Apple  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: Dorothy on March 19, 2020, 03:02:58 PM
And if a country THAT size can get over it,surely itsybitsy U.K. can
Although individualistic Brits don't tend to be quite so good at following instructions, so it may take us a while longer.  I have a friend who is currently living in China, and she reckons the reason they have got it under control is because everyone did what they were asked to do - unlike those who are still crowding into our local pubs and cafes!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: jaypo on March 19, 2020, 03:17:24 PM
Are they still doing that though?pubs are all empty round here,I think maybe youngsters don't care attitude won't help but that's the up and coming generation for you(not all obviously)
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: Tc on March 19, 2020, 03:46:05 PM
And if a country THAT size can get over it,surely itsybitsy U.K. can
Although individualistic Brits don't tend to be quite so good at following instructions, so it may take us a while longer.  I have a friend who is currently living in China, and she reckons the reason they have got it under control is because everyone did what they were asked to do - unlike those who are still crowding into our local pubs and cafes!

I realy wish we could go into lockdown. The pubs and shops,around here are packed.  People arent taking it seriously. .  I'm so worried for my dad as we are all isolating but he is still going out.  He sees others doing the same and its giving him a false sense of security.  It's such a,worry to all the family.  He is putting my mum at risk as well as himself.  Lockdown would mean he wouldnt have that option.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: jaypo on March 19, 2020, 03:55:29 PM
It is worrying TC,especially for older folks,I suppose because it is just a minority of people who actually die from it,either old or infirm or underlying health issues but I'm afraid to say,it's the attitude of oh,well it's not going to affect me so I don't care attitude.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: Justjules on March 19, 2020, 05:33:01 PM
As Jari states - no new cases in China - is this reported, hospitalised cases?

Also Korea had no new reported cases yesterday

Does anyone think it's odd that nothing reported re Russia or the likes of India, which are massive??!
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: jillydoll on March 19, 2020, 05:43:31 PM
We are so rebellious!
Groups of young adults laughing at the camera whilst out drinking.
No one giving any consideration to older folk who need food and toiletries.
Why? 🤬
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: Tc on March 19, 2020, 06:02:14 PM
Jilly. The thing is in my family it is my dad who is being the rebelioua one.  He walks into wetherapoons and its business as usual so he thinks its o.k. local   Restaurants are quiet but pubs and cafes are not.  So he is still going for his coffee at 11 and his pint at 5.  I have argued up hill and down dale with him. It's clear that the govt needs to identify the areas where people are not social.distancing and bring in more stringent rules.  People where I live seem too stupid to even keep their distance in a queue. .  Crammed into Asda  all standing right in each others space.  Even coughing into the air.   

😡

Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: CLKD on March 19, 2020, 07:09:40 PM
As long as people keep their distance it is better to go out - it keeps mental health issues at bay.

UK Government expectation is if people follow suggestions to keep a distance from others, it should be under control within 3 months. 

I found a World Wide map this week of areas and how many affected but can't remember the link right now.

How many people have died of seasonal 'flu or norovirus since November?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: pants46 on March 19, 2020, 07:13:53 PM
Russia had its first death today.
India has also been doing well, considering the size of the population and living standards in rural areas (no running water). My local shop owner is from India and was telling me how welk they were controlling it. But it may just be under reporting. Who knows.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: CLKD on March 19, 2020, 07:15:45 PM
How guaranteed are the figures from Asia anyway?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: jillydoll on March 19, 2020, 07:22:21 PM
Tc. 👋🏼 ...maybe when people stop using the bars and cafes then he?ll follow suit.
it's probably because he's looking at others and thinking, well, they?re out and in there, so I will too. Kinda thing.
it's a worrisome time for you, just hope you?ll be able to get through to him soon. xx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: CLKD on March 19, 2020, 07:25:39 PM
I think a certain age group thinks 'we've been through the War'  ::).  Keeping distance and making sure that the surfaces are wiped regularly is important where we go. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: Justjules on March 19, 2020, 08:15:15 PM
Russia had its first death today.
India has also been doing well, considering the size of the population and living standards in rural areas (no running water). My local shop owner is from India and was telling me how welk they were controlling it. But it may just be under reporting. Who knows.

Wow, I'm very surprised about India especially.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: Taz2 on March 19, 2020, 08:21:35 PM
Russia had its first death today.
India has also been doing well, considering the size of the population and living standards in rural areas (no running water). My local shop owner is from India and was telling me how welk they were controlling it. But it may just be under reporting. Who knows.

Wow, I'm very surprised about India especially.

I think it's only just beginning in India. We are a few weeks behind Italy and they are a few weeks behind us I believe https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-india-51962813/india-must-prepare-for-a-tsunami-of-coronavirus-cases

Taz x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: Tc on March 19, 2020, 10:21:37 PM
Thanks jilly.  I think you're probably right. It creates a false sense of security. Its worrying time for us all.
Stay safe ladies   xxx
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: CLKD on March 21, 2020, 09:16:45 AM
that's 1 of the key questions stellajane particularly with front line staff  :-\

Anyone remember the tale about that village in Derbyshire during the Placque?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: Sparrow on March 22, 2020, 08:30:08 AM
As Jari states - no new cases in China - is this reported, hospitalised cases?

Also Korea had no new reported cases yesterday

Don't get too excited about this. It is wonderful news but this type of virus has a habit of returning in a more virilant form, particularly after being surpressed. This happened with the so called Spanish Flu, after WW1.  The second wave a few months later, was much more wide spread and deadly.
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: CLKD on March 22, 2020, 09:54:31 AM
A few people have had it twice ........  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: Pennyfarthing on March 22, 2020, 09:56:52 AM
it puzzles me that Italy has had strict lockdown in place for several weeks but their death toll is still escalating. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: CLKD on March 22, 2020, 09:58:30 AM
That worries me too.  I wrote about that somewhere here yesterday  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: jaypo on March 22, 2020, 10:15:45 AM
Isn't it because the have the largest aging population?Not that that makes it any better mind you  :-\
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: Countrygirl on March 22, 2020, 10:18:26 AM
I wondered if it was because they tend to live multigenerationally (not sure if that's a word) so they just can't self isolate to protect themselves x
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: CLKD on March 22, 2020, 11:16:31 AM
It's a good enough word CG!  Same in many Asian countries, because they look after their elders.  Land is in short supply for building so families build tenements each having their own levels but mixing.  Often. 
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: Jari on March 22, 2020, 11:31:04 AM
it puzzles me that Italy has had strict lockdown in place for several weeks but their death toll is still escalating.

I agree. This is strange! ?
Title: Re: Coronavirus - healing begins
Post by: Tc on March 24, 2020, 02:05:07 PM
Good point