Menopause Matters Forum
General Discussion => This 'n' That => Topic started by: Pennyfarthing on February 11, 2020, 09:44:21 PM
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I have always had a really good head of hair and my Mum still has at 95 and my late Dad did too.
I do feel in the last year though that my hair is thinning. Anybody else noticed this?
When I brush my hair in the morning there seems to be a lot of hair in the brush! :'(
Several of my friends have fairly thin hair and one in particular you can see most of her scalp. maybe it's just something I will have to accept but I don't like it. I have always been proud of my healthy hair!
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I started taking collagen dummies for this. They've been amazing.
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:hug:
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What causes the thinning? Some people say hrt can worsen it, some say lack of Oestrogen or testosterone?
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Ha ha ha...sorry collagen 'gummy'...flipping autocorrect!!
It's a supplement. You can get it from Holland and Barrett. It helps your hair, skin and nails.
I started taking it for my hair (thinning) and nails (brittle, splitting, infections). It's been amazing. I'm very nearly 50 and people are commenting on how amazing my hair is.
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My hair is thinner on one side than the other.
I disguise it by having my hair permed.
It doesn't feel as bad when it's curly. when it's been straight I'm very self conscious of it.
Not that you see my scalp or anything, but because I know it's thinner that side, I'm aware of it, and feel self conscious. So when it's curly, I just puff that side up a little more to match the other, can't do that with my fine hair when it's straight. it's about how we can manage it without it getting us down, and I manage by having curls. xx
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;D Focus - I had a mental image of one of those rock dummies you get at the seaside! I like the idea of gummies though - healthy Haribos!
;D
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;D. that was my first thought be it was too early for it to be realistic :D
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I bought some dry shampoo with volumiser in it and that's very good. I put that in and pile my hair up on my head and it looks very thick. Trouble is I don't like to use that when I have just washed my hair but I am guessing there are other products available. I need to go and investigate.
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I thought that dry shampoo went out with the Ark ;D . I used it when my hair needed washing particularly when camping.
A new style might be the way to go.
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I thought that dry shampoo went out with the Ark ;D . I used it when my hair needed washing particularly when camping.
A new style might be the way to go.
NO! it's really popular and Batiste do loads of different types. they are really popular.
I have just ordered some gummies from Holland and Barrett. very expensive but have very good reviews. Buy a tub and get another for a penny at the moment.
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Caviar :-X :sick02: ;D
Which fish does it come from ;-) ?
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Sturgeon i think CLKD ,i might try some of the collagen gummies,have tried everything else, but can't think they have enough collagen in them to do much good,
Had a scalp biopsy a few weeks ago and nothing untoward found, so got to the dermatologist again,
He said it is Telogen Effluvium, but been like this for over a year now, no idea why,he thinks stress
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A 25 year what, though, Jaypo ??
If you're going to look like a 25 year old pitbull x poodle, I'll give that one a miss !!
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NHS - Finasteride and minoxidil
Finasteride and minoxidil are the main treatments for male pattern baldness.
Minoxidil can also be used to treat female pattern baldness. Women shouldn't use finasteride.
These treatments:
don't work for everyone
only work for as long as they're used
aren't available on the NHS
can be associated 2 stress, poor diet, underlying health conditions
can be expensive
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British Association of Dermatologists
Can telogen effluvium be cured?
Telogen effluvium usually resolves completely without any intervention as the normal length of telogen is approximately 100 days (3 to 6 months) after which period the hair starts growing again (anagen phase). However, depending on the length of the hair, it may take many months for the overall hair volume to gradually return to normal.
Telogen effluvium can return, especially if the underlying cause is not treated or recurs, and would be called chronic telogen effluvium if lasting more than 6 months.
How can telogen effluvium be treated?
There is normally no treatment required for telogen effluvium as the hair will start growing back once the trigger is removed. Medication does not speed up this process.
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I bought some collagen cream. Load of rubbish!
Nothing can fix my mush! 🥴
But what's that got to do with thinning hair? 🤷♀️. 😆
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::) :D
Fortunately my hair remains well.
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I wanted to keep sturgeon in our ponds but apparently they grow. HUGE and have a habit of leaving the water if they aren't happy to crawl elsewhere :o
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Not when born ;D ......... but they grows fast. Apparently. But are quite friendly and will come to the surface to feed ......... that's a meander that is :o ::)
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😆😂🤣 No, but it?ll take your mind of it! 😆 StellaJane....
I need Sellotape everywhere Jay.....😂
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What's Selleotape got to do with thinning hair :D
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Gawd knows CLKD....it's Jay, just go along with her.....
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Does Duck tape do the same thing? I need summat stronger than sellotape to hold back this face! 🤣😂
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Might improve my look! 😂🤣
Hey, that gorilla glue is good. I could give that a go! How many bottles shall I get? 😂🤣
Now that won't move, I?ll be looking like that Joker for the rest of my life! 🤡. 😁
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we had no success with gorilla glue ...........
I find that I have to change shampoo regularly as my hair gets flat .......
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My order has been despatched so will keep you all posted as to whether my gummies work. Hubby says these things never work!
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My dermatologist said "don't waste your money on these claims that they work, they don't,might make hair feel thicker and look more healthy,but wont make it grow,only existing hair" i must say i think Biotin helps mine to grow longer, but not thicker, no new hair
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Parcel just arrived and I have taken first 'dose?. ;D
My hair grows like mad lengthwise but not thickness wise as Stellajane says.
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Would having short hair improve the over-all look PF?
What have you taken exactly :-\ - what's the base ingredient?
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Would having short hair improve the over-all look PF?
What have you taken exactly :-\ - what's the base ingredient?
No, because I am hopeless with fiddling with hair. I like to stick it up and leave it. ;)
it's Biotin plus a load of vitamins.
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Are U expecting results soon?
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I have to make another appointment, nothing showing as wrong, taken Biotin. also vitamins and viviscal, no different, viviscal are very expensive too
I cut my own every 2 weeks, or it would be down to my knees lol
Short hair wouldn't make any difference ,because of where the patches are
It would show even more
I don't know about anyone else,but i get very annoyed at people saying "it's not as bad as you think" when i know very well it is
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Pennyfarthing if I still had a normal hairline that's what I'd do. Unfortunately I've lost so much to alopecia around the margin, if I did that I'd resemble a pineapple ;D I'm stuck with a short bob which is absolutely NOT what I'd choose if I had any choice!
Jaycee I think what people mean is that to THEM it isn't as bad as you think. Honestly I don't think anyone else either notices or cares what our hair looks like. Its only a problem for us!
I said earlier on here that I went for lunch with 2 cousins. One cousin has also let her hair go grey now (she's 10 years older than me) she used to dye it a rich brown. I told her how nice it looks and my other cousin has always had fine, fair hair in a bob which in later years she has put a blonde rinse on. I told her her hair always looks lovely and she said ?well this part isn't mine is it?? I hadn't a clue what she meant and then she said the top part is a 'topper? like men have!!! I honestly would never have known. She said it had got so thin you could see all her scalp and she hated it. So I guess you are right in that nobody notices except yourself.
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Stellajane,people DO notice,and i think it is very patronising of people to say it isn't as bad as we think,when we know very well it is,especially when there are almost bald patches
I have sent for a topper twice, but my hair isn't bad on the top,it is at the back below the crown,
I let my hair grow longer on top as it does help a bit to cover the lowr part,but the crown still shows bare,although in front of the crown it is fine
The ones i have sent for.and returned are nothing like my colour,and looked very false
I have to see the dermatologist again on the 12th of March,[earliest i could get]
Talking to a lady today whose sisters hair fell out with stress,but did grow back,so keeping fingers crossed
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I don't know where my cousin got her topper from but it was amazing and I had no idea it was one until she told me.
I think another good thing if you have hair loss is to have your hair a lighter colour. My friend has quite severe hair loss where you can clearly see all her scalp but she used to dye it dark brown and it was very noticeable. She has now gone several shades lighter and it looks much better.
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Can you maybe find out penny?if they?re good,I'd buy one for my daughter
i will ask her Jaypo.
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Look at Trevor Sorbie's web-site too. He's a hairdresser from the 1960s who concentrates on wigs for those who have undergone cancer treatments etc.. [mynewhair]
Yesterday I saw a woman with thinning hair, it was in dreadful condition too. She would have benefitted from a good shampoo and scalp massage and a close cut, rather than long, lank hair to her shoulders. It was obvious that she had undergone many colouring treatments which won't have helped. My thought was 'how awful' :-\. I had a friend in College who had her hair shaven close to the head which looked great ......... I saw a girl with a similar style recently with a bright purple streak across the top. Would I dare :o ???
I was thinking of this thread as I dropped off to sleep, eventually ::). My choice would be a complete shave, a good scalp massage and let it grow with lots of TLC.
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So do they! If you read and her name escapes me - but she is currently getting a lot of TV space in various art programmes: she refuses to be defined by her hair as an Afro Caribbean woman. I believe that many cut their hair then wear a wig so that they can have straight hair rather than their curly natural looks. When we walk along the various market stalls in the ethnic area there are masses of different styles to be bought. In lots of colours ::)
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I get there, eventually ::)
This is the girl I was thinking of, she presents a programme about lost masterpieces with Bendor Grosvenor.
Emma Dabiri is an Irish model, BBC television presenter, visual sociology researcher, and teaching Fellow in the Africa department at SOAS. She has published in a number of anthologies, and is the author of the book, Don't Touch My Hair. which I must get a copy of!
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I think it's great! Also the girls with small braids all over their heads sometimes with ribbons in. Must pull a bit though :o
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I have sent for toppers to try, but can't find one in my colour, they are usually a very gold or brassy blonde, but will keep trying
Spoke to a lady last week whose sisters hair fell out with stress, which i am told mine probably, and she said it did grow back, but took quite a long time
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jaycee - why not talk to a hairdresser? They are used to dealing with hair problems.
My FinL saw a man's hair turn completely white in an instant due to shock :-\
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This man had a bomb go off beside him. He went white. Instantly. Some people don't believe that it can happen :-\. But FinL was there.
I have tried wigs in saloons B4 altering a hair style. Gives a shock when I look in the mirror ::)
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It would be no good just trying another style because the bare patches are in different places,
There isn't a wig shop here, but i have been to one in another town about an hour away.even the toppers were very expensive,and i don't want a full wig, as i have a lot of hair where it is still growing
I can cope at the moment because i can wear a hat, but i want it sorting for summer
The longish hair i have does help to disguise it a bit, indoors, but wouldn't in windy weather
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What do you consider expensive? Sometimes it seems that 1-off payment is HUGE but I have to remember that I am buying something that I will often use. i.e. shoes [I hate shoe/slipper shopping >:(]. It might be worth while seeking advice, 1 doesn't have to buy anything after all. How about extensions? this may have been suggested already :-\.
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Some of the toppers are real hair,but usually dead straight, and the real hair wigs were sometimes into the high hundreds,
The fake hair ones looked fake and good ones were still in the hundreds,and more than i can afford
I have thought bout exyensions, but it has never been suggested
I might look into that
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Usually good quality wigs can be styled - do look at Trevor's web-site. If you have a medical condition you may be able to get some help with funding.
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Where they fitted professionally? What were they made of? Were they air conditioned, apparently some wigs are so hot that they are soon put to one side ::)
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tnx. I had forgotten about that condition. So far my hair has remained thick though shampoo makes it lank for a few days however much I rinse.
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Just had a shower and a thought occurred to me. maybe it's the Touch of Silver shampoo and conditioner that I've been using since I decided to stop colouring my hair that's making my hair thinner.
I didn't use it this morning so will see how it goes.
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You can buy Volume Powder for hair now. Don't know if anyone's seen it.
You just apply it to your roots and hey presto.
Schwarzkopf do one, and it's only about ?3 for a small bottle.
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You can buy Volume Powder for hair now. Don't know if anyone's seen it.
You just apply it to your roots and hey presto.
Schwarzkopf do one, and it's only about ?3 for a small bottle.
I bought a can of similar stuff jillydoll and it does improve the volume but I didn't like the feel of it in my hair. i have seen the powder too.
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This is for Jaypo.
Saw my cousin today and asked about her 'topper?. her condition is female something or other and is the equivalent of male baldness. She said she went to Ipswich for her current one but is not happy with it. I told her I would never have known if she hadn't told me about it last time we met so she was pleased. She was in a hurry but as far as I can make out she was referred by NHS but she has to pay.
meanwhile, I have today bought volumising shampoo and separate conditioner and will see how that goes. I never ever thought my hair would go thin, I have always had loads of hair but I think it's a combination of stress over the last few years with Mum and my own fault for always having it tied up on top of my head.
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stellajane,i asked at Holland and Barratt about Collagen and was told it might improve hair that is alreay there but wont help it grow,
I have Biotin, but it seems to help my hair grow longer, but doesn't help with thickness or growth
Can't wait to see the Dermatologist next week, but doubt if he can tell me anything new
Better than Drs though
My daughter has developed a kind of patchy rash,which 2 Drs told her was ringworm ,i googled it and didn't look anything like ringworm to me, it doesn't itch .but is spreading,she saw the Derm,today and he said it is definitely not ringworm, he did say what ,but she can't remember
Makes you wonder sometimes what else Drs get wrong
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Not many GPs would see ring worm these days ::)
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I can't find anything easy to read about collagen treatment + NHS
Hair is keratin and many treatment to bind proteins are not close enough to the scalp to be of any use in encouraging hair regeneration.
Does collagen thicken hair?:
An abundant protein -
It is mostly found in fibrous tissues, such as tendons, ligaments and skin. ... Collagen is found in the skin tissue surrounding the hair follicle. A number of studies have found that during anagen (growth) stage of the hair follicle, amount of collagen surrounding the hair bulb thickens and increases. There is no evidence that collagen treatment will improve hair growth
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The only reason i asked at H&A was because i read that it does help, anyway didn't bother even trying
There are lots of videos on youtube about what helps hair regrowth, and i read on a hair loss forum that Rosemary oil does,
Also saw some shampoo, for horses with Rosemary oil in it ???
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For horses. Maybe dilute it a lot first ? caravosa ? is often advertised in the Shooting Times etc., supposed to help hair growth in scabby animals ::)
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The collagen seems to be working for me. I've been taking it for about 6 months now.
It's stopped my hair from falling out at the rate it was before. That's a very noticeable difference.
Also had people commenting on how shiny it is.
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:thankyou:
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Jaypo, yes i have heard of it,and seen it advertised in Boots,i did ask at H&B about rosemary oil, and in their handbook it did say Rorsemary is good for hair growth, so i have bought some and a carrier oil, but its a bit greasy,will put some in my shampoo
I was horrified last night to see more bare patches,i just can't understand why
I have Haemochromatosis, so that could be a cause, but i don't have it badly,it doesn't really affect me, but its probably classed as an autoimmune condition, but the only thing is that low iron can cause hairloss, and although it is caused by an iron overload i don't have high ferritin which is measured in a blood test, so my iron is still low , and rarely need a venesesction, which takes about a pint of blood every so often, whereas most people with this consition need blood taking very regularly
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Jaycee my daughter used the Mane & Tail horse shampoo (before they made it for humans)& she rated it,said it was good,it's an age old shampoo,used to use it on my horse 40 years ago :o I know Boots sell it x
Wow! Will have a look in the garage. We still have one horse and there is tons of horse stuff out there.
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I actually woke up this morning with thinning hair on my mind and imagining I was bald. :'( I made hubby check my hair last night and he said it is really thin especially at the back.
I do remember the hairdresser I used to have said about 2 years ago that I had a little bald patch at the top which she thought was caused by always having my hair tied up there. I tried to tie my hair up differently yesterday and took a top section up and thought I would leave the rest down. I was horrified when I used a mirror to check the back as it looked very sparse.
Anyway I decided to make GP appointment and got a cancellation for tomorrow morning! That is unheard of around here. If I didn't take it I have to wait until 18th. I will just have to rearrange tomorrow, visiting Mum etc.
I have also been reading up about what foods benefit the hair (most of which I eat anyway) and also read that drinking plenty of water helps so I am back on a big bottle. Can't do much more.
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The collagen won't hurt me anyway - I could do with plumping up my skin all over its so thin!
Where are you buying this Stellajane? Tablet or powder?
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Went in Boots today and while waiting to be seRved saw some packs of collagen for HAIR
It was on offer, but forgot about looking at it later after i had been served, but will look next time i am in town
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Back from GP. She is sending me for blood tests for diabetes and thyroid. If they come back clear she will refer me to Dermatologist. She has put on the blood test form Alopecia? Hypothyroid
Told me to eat plenty of veg and protein and eat oily fish. Came home and opened a can of mackerel in sunflower oil and took one nibble and threw it in bin! I am not used to oily food and it was vile.
Will go for blood tests tomorrow.
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Yeah I've been hypothyroid and alopecian(?) for 25 years. Actually I always thought I'd be bald by now! It's all auto-immune stuff which tends to strike women in particular and especially as we age. Once you have one autoimmune condition it apparently makes you more likely to develop others - I have some little patches of vitiligo (pure white skin) too.
I'm not a fan of fish but OH and I have taken fish oil capsules for so long we've forgotten exactly why we started. Maybe its helping?
Let us know how you get on with the blood tests.
that's interesting stellajane. i will order some fish oil capsules now! Is your hair very thin now, can you see your scalp?
It has really bothered me. It suddenly hit me how thin my hair is. I always had loads and when I put it in a pony tail I used to twist the band round twice. Now I have to twist it 3 or 4 times. :'(.
My hairbrush in the morning is full of hair!
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Penny,i have had tests for thyroid and every other test going i thjink,all clear, but i was told i was pre diabetic a few months ago
Will mention this to the Dermatologist when i see him next week
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Penny,i have had testes for thyroid and every other test going i thjink,all clear, but i was told i was pre diabetic a few months ago
Will mention this to the Dermatologist when i see him next week
Jaycee... Last night I dug out a book I bought many years ago called ?Tears Behind Closed Doors? by Diana Holmes. See if you can get a copy on Ebay. it's about failure to diagnose underactive thyroid. I am just re-reading it and I have so many of the symptoms .... very dry skin, tiredness, poor memory and confusion, low mood, hair loss (as well as head, I have not had any hair on my arms for several years and very little you know where or my legs), dizziness (for the past couple of years I have to get someone else to get things out of low cupboards or I go dizzy, claustrophobia, weight gain (however hard I try I seldom lose any weight).
Apparently the basic blood tests they do for thyroid is not enough to get a proper diagnosis. Too many are slipping through the net.
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Yes its very thin. I have a condition called frontal fibrosing alopecia plus telogen effluvium. The underactive thyroid is said to affect it too, then of course there's the normal effect of ageing. Hells bells, what a crock!
When I was young my hair was so thick and heavy it would hardly hold in a high pony tail. It used to be so hot in the summer if I just left it loose over my shoulders. Happy days!
I can see my scalp but I've always been blonde and am only now turning a sort of blondey-white so I don't think its as noticeable as it might be on someone who has dark hair.
It is scary when you first realise the change. We were away in a hotel the day after I got my alopecia diagnosis and I woke with a nightmare. Frightened the life out of my OH. That was a long time ago though. I've come to terms with it all now.
I did try various treatments in the early years after diagnosis but gave them up as I just found it all too much hard work to keep on top of for no real improvement. Some people do find remedies that work, you can't generalise because each case is individual. All the best anyway.
PS - as this is a menopause forum just wondering if you or jaycee are on HRT - I only mention it because when I was on Norethisterone (progesterone) it made my hair fall out in handfuls.
Thanks for that Stellajane. You sound as thought you are completely comfortable with it now.
I am still on HRT but the lowest dose. have been on it for years and until maybe 18 months ago my hair was thick and glossy so I don't think it's HRT that's the problem. but good thinking!
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Hello ladies.
I am new to all this thyroid business but in my experience if the standard blood test for TSH and T4 is out of range the lab will automatically include a test for antibodies. This is how I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis at the end of last year. My. GP immediately prescribed Levothyroxine and I am now having follow up blood tests to see if that dose is correct.
I realise that there can be problems with the diagnosis and treatment of thyroid disease generally but hopefully all labs will test for antibodies where necessary.
Take care ladies.
K.
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I haven't read the whole tread but I have read online that Vitamin D is vital for good hair health. Low levels can cause hair loss apparently.
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stellajane,i have heard before that thyroid tests are only the basics at the Drs,
My hair fell out when on Evoral Conti, which has Norethisterone as a progesterone,so did my daughters,
I have mentioned this before on here, but i am on Livial, and not sure if this doesn't help, although some say it has made their hair thicker, but it's quite androgenic
I have gone off it, then back on it,as i do like it,and when i took it years ago i had no problems with hair loss
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I have also been reading through this whole thread. A long story short at Christmas when i had a break from work I really noticed my hair loss. I stopped HRT 18 Jan as soon as I realised what might be causing it . the Provera and testosterone both have hair loss listed as side effect; with Provera it is listed as a common side effect. I had been cleaning out my hair brushes every week because of the volume of hair coming out. I went to my GP and also rang the nhs clinic of the menopause consultant I had been seeing last 7 months. My GP did blood tests which showed my ferritin is very low at 11 my GP said over 50 is needed to maintain normal hair growth. I went back over my records which show an earlier blood test last July at the clinic that Ferritin was at 17 then. I gave blood 3 times in the last year and research has shown that 2/3 female donors can suffer low ferritin. I found all this through my own reading and research. If you look at the Phillip Kingsley website one of the Trichologists has written about ferritin and hair loss. If it is low ferritin causing hair loss then it can be reversed. My gp sent me to an NHS dermatologist. He put me on high dose iron tablets and will see me again after blood tests in May. The menopause consultant rang me and started to talk about other patients experiencing hair loss on HRT. This came as a rotten shock to me. If I had realised I would not have taken it. I have felt ok since stopping HRT. Besides what is worse than losing your hair. I am going to see a Trichologists at PK next week and will update you. The dermatologist I saw wrote Alopecia as a preliminary diagnosis. He's not given me any other treatment than iron . He did hair pull tests and said it was positive I wasn't losing hair on the tests and that I wasn't losing hair from elsewhere. It was the menopause consultant who advised me to see a Trichologist. I will let you know how I get on. I am sharing my experience in the hope it is useful.
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I have also been reading through this whole thread. A long story short at Christmas when i had a break from work I really noticed my hair loss. I stopped HRT 18 Jan as soon as I realised what might be causing it . the Provera and testosterone both have hair loss listed as side effect; with Provera it is listed as a common side effect. I had been cleaning out my hair brushes every week because of the volume of hair coming out. I went to my GP and also rang the nhs clinic of the menopause consultant I had been seeing last 7 months. My GP did blood tests which showed my ferritin is very low at 11 my GP said over 50 is needed to maintain normal hair growth. I went back over my records which show an earlier blood test last July at the clinic that Ferritin was at 17 then. I gave blood 3 times in the last year and research has shown that 2/3 female donors can suffer low ferritin. I found all this through my own reading and research. If you look at the Phillip Kingsley website one of the Trichologists has written about ferritin and hair loss. If it is low ferritin causing hair loss then it can be reversed. My gp sent me to an NHS dermatologist. He put me on high dose iron tablets and will see me again after blood tests in May. The menopause consultant rang me and started to talk about other patients experiencing hair loss on HRT. This came as a rotten shock to me. If I had realised I would not have taken it. I have felt ok since stopping HRT. Besides what is worse than losing your hair. I am going to see a Trichologists at PK next week and will update you. The dermatologist I saw wrote Alopecia as a preliminary diagnosis. He's not given me any other treatment than iron . He did hair pull tests and said it was positive I wasn't losing hair on the tests and that I wasn't losing hair from elsewhere. It was the menopause consultant who advised me to see a Trichologist. I will let you know how I get on. I am sharing my experience in the hope it is useful.
thanks for posting that. I am pretty sure my hair loss is not linked to HRT as I have been on it for many years with no problems. I am on just 1 mg of Kliovance and it says on the leaflet that you may experience 'some side effects? when you first go on to HRT. I had no side effects whatsoever. Ait's only recently that my hair is thinning.
I went off for blood tests. 30 mile round trip in a packed room with 25 people in front of me and I waited 1 hour 20 minutes to be seen. Should get results middle of next week.
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NS i know low ferritin can be a cause, but i have Haemochromatosis, which is overload of iron, although my ferrin has never been that high and i have refused to have a venesection [blood taken] in the past as my ferritin dropped too low,
I believe too much as well as not enough iron can cause hair loss,
I know for a fact the Norethisterone caused some hair loss, as stated in earlier post, my daughters hair started falling out on that too
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Same here stellajane, i felt to have a lot more energy on Evoral Conti, but couldn't do with the hair loss
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Update. I washed my hair in a thickening shampoo and then used a thickening conditioner. I let it dry naturally without brushing at all. I got the big head thing on the hair dryer and turned my head over (went very dizzy!) to dry it. I then scooped the top section up with my fingers and held it on top and pushed the rest up and secured with a small clip with prongs. So my hair is up, it looks thicker and I haven't lost any hairs today as I haven't brushed it! Obviously will only work on longer hair.
I used to use one of these clips about 5? long to hold all my hair securely now it all fits inside one about 2? max with much smaller prongs.
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Stella Jane thanks for your reply. To put it in context when I said what's worse than hair loss I made a well informed decision to try HRT 2.5 years ago now. I read Kathy Abernethy's 2 books on HRT and all the NICE and BMS guidance. I've tried patches tablets gel under the supervision of an NHS consultant the last 7 months. I stopped all HRT mid January because of significant hair loss .
In terms of my circumstances, I almost lost my brother and my husband in the space of 4 months between 2017-2018. My brother spent 2 months on life support. Thankfully they have both made good recoveries but I am very appreciative to be in good health as I know not everyone is that fortunate. That's why I became a blood donor to thank the NHS for what they did for my family and realising how much blood is needed. The dermatologist I saw in Feb told me I need to stop worrying. Not easy when your hair is coming out. I honestly do think my hair loss is connected to the HRT. It could be a combination of that and low Ferritin. Best wishes.
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The dermatologist told me i had Telogen Effluvium and wasn't hormone related ,but stress related,and would grow back, i am still waiting ::)have to see him again on thursday, no idea why,don't think he can tell me anything different now
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Hello ladies
A couple of products I like to use to at least give the impression of thicker hair is Aveda (i think ) thickening lotion and Bed Head dry shampoo (this stuff is amazing)
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Stress definitely kicked off my alopecia (won't go into all the details, some have heard it before) but then hormonal issues (thyroid and oestrogen) came along and complicated my hairloss further. The telogen effluvium is I think more hormone related.
Unfortunately even though I'm not under the same level of stress now I haven't seen any improvement in my bald areas and don't really expect to.
It's definitely the progesterone element of HRT which makes my hair shed.
I think it's stress for me too stellajane. I have been looking after my Mum for 13 years since my Dad died. In the last few years even though she is in a care home I visit every other day, do all her paperwork, do pedicure and manicure, make hair appointments, attend meetings, go to hospital with her, do her banking, buy toiletries and new clothes etc. I get very stressed trying to do everything.
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Yes that was me.Dad died at 66 and mum was a handful from then on! Emotionally needy at first then physically and lastly mentally with dementia. Of course I was still working too and entering perimeno.
It's small wonder our bodies register stress despite the fact we just keep going!
Sorry to hear that Stellajane.
I have got my blood tests results just now and both thyroid and diabetes are apparently normal. I have also made appt to see same GP who sent me for blood tests. 2 weeks wait.
I am fed up with it!
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Saw my dermatologist yesterday,he said see him again at the end of the summer,my hair should have grown back by then.but still not convinced
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Saw my dermatologist yesterday,he said see him again at the end of the summer,my hair should have grown back by then.but still not convinced
Fingers crossed for you jaycee. X
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Thank you, getting very depressed about it now,but not likely to be going out much
My daughter and son in law had booked a mothers day meal for me and his mother, but cancelling now, as very nice but small place, would be sat close to others, and mostly older people,
He said if we caught anything he would never forgive himself.
Although we have no corona virus cases here at the moment,i prefer not to go anyway,being in the vulnerable group
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i just collected a book on regrowing hair the natural way, from the library. Will let you know if there's anything useful in it. Sounds a bit cranky because there's a self hypnosis CD with it. I think I need a bit more than going into a trance. ;D ;D
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OoH that sounds interesting, i have seen lots on you tube about essential oils etc,helping hair to come back,hope you find something worth trying
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I have been on the Gummies for a month now and cannot see any difference at all. I start on the second bottle tomorrow and won't buy any more. They are very expensive at ?20 a bottle and that was on special offer.
Just washed and conditioned hair with thickening stuff and then put some Argan oil on. I then dried it a bit with the big accessory on the hairdryer and added a big blob of volume mousse. Hubby says it looks thicker and smells lovely.
My cousin told me about a product called Kerafiber which you sprinkle in your hair (various colours) and makes it look thicker. I have ordered some.
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I have bought all kinds of viatmins and some of that fibre stuff, but that is only any good if you have enough hair in one spot to help it stick
I BOUGHT SOME OTHER VERY WELL KNOWN TABLETS, CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME NOW, BEGINS WITH A v, VERY EXPENSIVE AT AROUND ?50, NO GOOD,
Oh sorry caps on, can't be bothered to go back and do it all again ::)
Just remembered tablets called Viviscal
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Hope it's okay to post here as I'm stuck at the moment, I'm really worried about my teenage daughter as she has started losing a lot of hair, she's got very thick hair but we are finding it all over the place and it's really concerning me. Have been trying to book her in with the drs but the CV is causing bedlam with that so have to try again today, have read it could be thyroid or stress at her age. Did any of you just suddenly start losing loads x
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Hi Countrygirl I had the Same with my daughter a few years ago, it was because her iron was low. Once she started her iron tablets everything went back to normal. She also altered her diet which was a big help.
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Hello ladies.
I saw a doctor who specialised in treating low iron conditions with infusions. He said the best and safest form of iron supplementation was a product called Spatone which is iron rich water in sachets. He suggested taking one sachet every other day as this method increases absorption. He also mentioned that his wife successfully used this treatment after giving birth.
Hopefully this helps anyone worried that low iron is causing their hair to thin.
Take care everyone.
K.
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I'm not short of iron. i have too much and have to have it taken out, so that's not my reason for hair loss
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My daughters bloods came back okay, but it's still coming out at 100's of hairs a day and she's only 15. It started around a month ago, dr doesn't seem concerned said it's probably stress down to this corona as it started roughly the same time. I'm not sure what we can do to help her x
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I really think a lot of things including hairloss are put down to stress, because they don't know,or sometimes cant be bothered to look into it
I am lucky that the derm i am seeing is also a GP at my surgery,and consultations are free but some Drs i saw there in before didn't help
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There is a programme on BBC Radio 4 today, covering products for thinning hair. It's on at 9.30am, so if you miss it, it will be on Sounds.
The Best Thing Since Sliced Bread, is the name of the programme.
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I have bought all kinds of viatmins and some of that fibre stuff, but that is only any good if you have enough hair in one spot to help it stick
I BOUGHT SOME OTHER VERY WELL KNOWN TABLETS, CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME NOW, BEGINS WITH A v, VERY EXPENSIVE AT AROUND ?50, NO GOOD,
Oh sorry caps on, can't be bothered to go back and do it all again ::)
Just remembered tablets called Viviscal
I too tried the gummy tablet..nice like sweets but did NOTHING for hair and nails..nails if anything are worse. although probably not due to the gummys!
Did Viviscal work for anyone?
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As you have said before stellajane ,it's easy to say don't let your hair take over your life, but it doesn't help it either, very embarrassing,to have bald patches that show ,
Some people might be able to not care,but i bet most do
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As you have said before stellajane ,it's easy to say don't let your hair take over your life, but it doesn't help it either, very embarrassing,to have bald patches that show ,
Some people might be able to not care,but i bet most do
I try not to stress over it but I spend a lot more time now trying to make my hair look fuller. I have special thickening shampoo, thickening conditioner. I have a mousse which I put on towel dry hair and I turn my head right over before drying it with a special big attachment on. I brush it as little as I can to avoid more hair coming out in the brush. Prior to this I just washed and left to dry naturally so it is taking over my life to an extent.
I find myself wanting to throw things at young girls on shampoo adverts on TV who casually toss their lustrous, thick hair over their shoulders. ;D ;D