Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => Personal Experiences => Topic started by: jaydee on December 29, 2019, 11:14:33 AM
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Please can somebody out there advise me. I'm 65years old have been on HRT for 23 years. My GP is unhappy about prescribing utrogestan or any progesterone as apparently an ‘alert' comes up on the computer, due to my age. I still have a womb so obviously need some form of progesterone. Does anybody know what is acceptable for somebody my age.
Thanks in anticipation.
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Your Dr might give you Livial [ Tibolone] mine did at age 72
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Not too sure what tibolone is. Is it a progesterone?
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Might be worth checking he's trying to prescribe the right sort of utro, the 200mg prescribed to support IVF might come up with an alert. Can't help on the age thing as I'm not over 65 yet. If you don't get anywhere you could ask for a referral to a meno clinic (I have the same problem with testosterone and this is way round it).
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Jaydee, Tibolone has synthetic but weak, Estogen, progesterone, and kind of testosterone,you could search it on google
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I am prescribed utrogestan 200. Would the utrogestan 100 be strong enough? I insert them vaginally.
Many thanks.
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The 200mg ones are only licensed for IVF. I have them too because the doc I saw couldn't find the 100mg, that's because they come under Micronised Progesterone not utrogeston. If you still use a cycle you need 200mg for 12 days per cycle but you can use 2x100mg. If you use it continuously you should be on 100mg daily.
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Thankyou Sheila, I feel clearer in my mind now. My previous gp, who was quite knowledgeable on hrt has retired and the new one........45 year old woman, is absolutely clueless!
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Many are! Maybe contact Dr Louise Newson's Clinic for advice that you could take to your GP? Or ask the GP to contact Dr Newson directly?
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How do I contact Dr Newson? Is there a telephone number on here?
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If your GP refuses to play ball, I agree with CLKD, contact Dr Newson because she will prescribe it as long as you don't have any underlying health issues. She will also write to your doctor with her recommendations.
Alternatively, why not ring round and find a local private doctor who is prepared to prescribe it?
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I'm confused are you saying your GP will prescribe Estrogen but not progesterone now your 65 if so that's ridiculous and dangerous.
Lanzalover x
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Many are! Maybe contact Dr Louise Newson's Clinic for advice that you could take to your GP? Or ask the GP to contact Dr Newson directly?
How do I contact Dr Newson? Is there a telephone number on here?
Why are members suggesting jaydee should be contacting Dr Newson for advice? She doesn't do telephone or e-mail consultations. You have to be a patient of hers:
https://www.menopausedoctor.co.uk/contact
"Individualised Advice
This website is designed to help you find the most factual and up-to-date information about the menopause. We are unable to offer individualised advice except during a personal consultation at our Menopause & Wellbeing Centre. Please visit the Menopause Information page to search for information using a specific keyword, or through one of the eight main topic areas." (my bold!)
If you would like a low cost e-mail or telephone consultation you can contact Dr Currie on this website ( go to home page of website) or Women's Health Concern here:
https://www.womens-health-concern.org/help-and-advice/telephone-advisory-service/
https://www.womens-health-concern.org/help-and-advice/email-advice/
jaydee - your doc can override anything on the computer I'm sure! I've no idea what the alert is but sounds like something introduced possibly by the local Trust? I'm 66 and on HRT including progesterone. Everything I get is non-standard and not on the formulary list for my area!
You do not need to consult a private doctor for this!!! Just someone that knows what they're talking about.
Good luck.....
Hurdity x
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Thankyou Hurdity. X
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Find someone who knows though Hurdity - it is obvious from what is reported here that GPs still lack basic knowledge or empathy about what ladies might require.
When I have a problem I go straight to the top. So I would ring Dr Newson's Clinic and ask advice. That would also give me the cost of consultations etc. and something concrete to return to my GP with.
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Find someone who knows though Hurdity - it is obvious from what is reported here that GPs still lack basic knowledge or empathy about what ladies might require.
When I have a problem I go straight to the top. So I would ring Dr Newson's Clinic and ask advice. That would also give me the cost of consultations etc. and something concrete to return to my GP with.
CLKD - I don't know why you've responded again saying jaydee should phone Dr Newson's clinic, as my post was quite clear - you won't get free advice from this source as far as I know. Your advice to go the top is admirable - but your implication following this advice, that contacting Dr Newson is going to the top is erroneous! I'm not quite sure why you have recently started suggesting members contact her in the first instance after they have been failed by their local GP? She is a fantastic advocate for giving women the best treatment in menopause, and her website and free information is brilliant but she is a private menopause specialist GP. https://www.menopausedoctor.co.uk/about . Also why would you go back to your GP with the cost of consultation with a private specialist?!!
This is the Menopause Matters Forum attached to the Menopause Matters website and we have our own "in-house" advice service given by Dr Currie (available to anyone not just members), as I said at very low cost. In terms of "the top" she is a renowned gynaecologist, former Chair of the BMS and now one of its trustees as well as editor of their academic journal "Post Reproductive Health". Not only that she works for NHS and as far as I know doesn't make money out of private patients. Going down this route is more like going "straight to the top".
https://thebms.org.uk/about-the-charity/our-people/
Like I said the Women's Health Concern is the patient arm of the BMS so that is as specialist as you can get at low cost (re advice).
jaydee was not asking to be recommended a specialist and she likely thought from your post that it was just a question of picking up the phone. I pointed her in the direction of "someone who knows" at low cost and also she should not actually even need to spend money to get what she is seeking!
Let us know how you get on jaydee!!!!
Hurdity x