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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: natal97 on November 12, 2019, 10:21:58 PM

Title: Estradot patches
Post by: natal97 on November 12, 2019, 10:21:58 PM
I'm starting new estradot patches this week and reading the leaflet that comes with the patches. The leaflet states that the patch should be placed lower abdomen below the waistline.
I used to be on evorel patches which had to be applied to the leg/bum area - I thought this was the same for all patches?
Does anyone wear their estradot patch on their thigh? Or does it have to be abdomen?
Thanks  8)
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: SV66 on November 13, 2019, 12:57:14 PM
Hi there

I wear Estradot patches and have done for about 8 months and yes I place them on my lower abdomen

prior to Estradot I was on a different patch ( which didn't suit me) and these had to be on your bum

x
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: hotmama on November 13, 2019, 05:13:58 PM
Hi, I put them on my lower tummy, alternating sides. Glad you've been able to get them as I can't, on the south coast.
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: Hurdity on November 13, 2019, 05:34:32 PM
It really doesn't matter where you put them as long as it is the lower trunk ( some of the instructions say this) and away from breasts.

Some of them have had trials to test the absorption so the site recommended will be the one presumably that gave the highest absorption or the best stickability. You just need to stick it where it is right for you and your lifestyle and the clothing you wear. I always put Estradot (and the patches I was changed to - Estraderm) on my butt cheek and have been happy with this. I wouldn't want them on my front lower abdomen because of the (loose) baby skin I still have there and I think it would be more likely to rub off. Depends on the size of the patch too.

Have just looked at the Evorel product info and it says this:

"Recommended application sites are on clean, dry, healthy, intact skin and each application should be made to a slightly different area of skin on the trunk below waistline." - so not just leg bum area!

Yes alternating sides so not stuck to exactly the same place each time. I would suggest once you have found a site on your body that suits you and the right dose then just alternate sides because the absorption will vary depending on where you stick it and the thickness of your skin etc.

You can apply to your thigh but maybe absorption will be less if skin is thicker and may also be more likely to rub off with pulling down jeans and tights etc?

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: natal97 on November 15, 2019, 09:53:12 AM
Thanks so much for all of your replies!

I think I will stick to the upper thigh/ bum area as I feel it may rub off more on lower abdomen area.

I was first prescribed evorel 100 but completely out of stock now. My sister in law works in pharmaceuticals and she rang evorel and asked about it, they said they are expecting stock to be back mid 2020.

My local pharmacy is pretty good and helps out a lot, it was them that rang my doctor and got me switched from Evorel to estradot

Xx
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: ann58 on November 18, 2019, 11:29:26 PM
I put my Estradot on upper thigh.
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: Tc on November 19, 2019, 12:24:05 AM
Hiya. I used to put on my lower  tummy. Alternate side each change. I found they stick pretty well. Xx
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: Orangefoot on November 19, 2019, 11:57:30 PM
I put estradot on the back of my hip. I can't get them for love nor money and now have a HUUUUUGE Estraderm.
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: Tc on November 20, 2019, 12:05:33 PM
Orange. I hear you. I cant get them either.  but I've now been switched to gel.

The estradot are tiny compared to other
patches and I found they stick the best too.

Let's hope this supply debacle gets sorted soon.
X
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: Hurdity on November 23, 2019, 09:21:49 AM
I put estradot on the back of my hip. I can't get them for love nor money and now have a HUUUUUGE Estraderm.

Yes they are! Do you still place Estraderm on butt? - Now and again mine start to come unstuck so have to change early, as they are so huge!

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: Sammiejane on November 23, 2019, 12:39:23 PM
hi any ladies had hairloss on estradot patches ?
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: Grumpymum on November 26, 2019, 11:16:52 AM
Now you mention it Sammy my hair is thinning which I put down to menopause but thought that HRT would protect me from that. I'd never thought about it being because I have Estradot patches! I'd be interested to hear other views.
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: Hurdity on November 26, 2019, 02:46:40 PM
No Estradot does not cause hairloss which is mainly due to low oestrogen levels as well as underactive thyroid, low iron and some vit levels, low and high Tesosterone - and wrong balance between T and oestrogen, and some androgenic progrestogens which are testosterone derived.

Yes menopause and the attendant hormonal changes has an anormous effect on our hair - causing hair  thinning and loss and lack of lustre - it loses its luxuriance.  As many will know from pregnancy - our hair was thick, shiny and lovely then - and probably never the same again!

This thread is not about hairloss anyway - it's about the placing of patches. Let's keep to that otherwise every other thread becomes about hair loss, unwelcome though this is (ie hair loss)! It really needs another - long-running thread of its own.

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: Orangefoot on December 02, 2019, 01:50:11 AM
I put estradot on the back of my hip. I can't get them for love nor money and now have a HUUUUUGE Estraderm.

Yes they are! Do you still place Estraderm on butt? - Now and again mine start to come unstuck so have to change early, as they are so huge!

Hurdity x

I got mad with them peeling off so cut them in half and stuck both bits on next to each other on my hip and they stayed on better being smaller but irritated my skin and the edge of one scratched me. This week I've put it on my thigh and it's stuck ok (as long as dh doesn't stroke me!) but I think somethign in them makes me itchy so that's not cool. Bring back Estradot!
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: Hurdity on December 02, 2019, 08:25:46 AM
I've just posted on the other Estradot thread because according to BMS they are now available but when they will get into the supply chain I don't know but I'm hoping...

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: Sammiejane on December 02, 2019, 09:01:24 AM
hi tc

what gel have they now put you on and how are you finding that compared to your patch?
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: Sammiejane on December 08, 2019, 09:41:07 PM
hi hurdity

whilst i appreciate that you like to keep to  a structure on threads everybody has the right to ask whatever questions they like and if someone reply's with interested it doesn't mean that the original thread is lost we are all here to discuss what we like !

and how do you know estradot dosent cause hairloss ? it may not have for you but everyone is different and is listed in side effects as all the estrogens have hairloss although may not be common dosent mean it can't happen, and i don't appreciate the dog about every thread becomes about hairloss ! to some people this can me a massive thing especially when they are young if i was 60 odd it wouldn't bother me but i'm young my youngest child is only 7 so it's a massive thing for me and i'm sure lots of other women to whatever their age !
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: Hurdity on December 09, 2019, 01:14:23 PM
Hi sammiejane - not sure what suddenly brought that comment on from a post I made two weeks ago! As you know we are all here to try to help you but although theoretically you can post anything anywhere - the forum works best for everyone if we try to keep mostly to topic and not ask the same question on multiple threads, especially if the topic is unrelated to what you are asking - not least because it is very time-consuming for those of us who come here to help - to go to a thread and find the same question and also forget whether or where we have posted a reply to see what we've said. It doesn't help us to help you and the original poster also gets confused. This has been politely pointed out to you by several members not just me - mainly those who are trying to help you because we do care about you, but we have limited time and we also care about everyone else too!

In terms of hair-loss - I think this has been covered extensively.  We either give our own experiences or the general principles from studies etc relating to oestrogen and its effects on hair. Of course we cannot say how one individual will react and also because as you will know by now the issue of hair growth loss is extremely complex.

I think you need to try to be calm and follow the advice of your doctors and try out the regimes they are advising for the  trial period they recommend and keep a diary about what happens - to your mood, and other symptoms as well as your hair. Maybe also think about stopping smoking as this has been raised on another thread?

All the best

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: Sammiejane on December 11, 2019, 01:11:07 PM
hi hurdity

i post on multiple threads to get experience and advise from others as if they are not experiencing hairloss then they would not repond to a thread about this but it's also interesting to find out what medication they also take and how they have got on !
sorry i have not been on this forum for 10 years but it does not make you the owner of it or in charge !
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: Hurdity on December 11, 2019, 03:30:49 PM
hi hurdity

i post on multiple threads to get experience and advise from others as if they are not experiencing hairloss then they would not repond to a thread about this but it's also interesting to find out what medication they also take and how they have got on !
sorry i have not been on this forum for 10 years but it does not make you the owner of it or in charge !

sammiejane - your remarks are not very pleasant and cause offence. Like the others we are all trying to help you in the best way we can. Several members have suggested you start new threads and also that you don't keep asking the same questions on multiple threads - including very new members ( like Lola50) as well as others who are not new but also not veterans. Please respect those who are trying to help you, without resorting to insults otherwise you will find we will just give up. Like I said those of us who post regularly have limited time and to read the same question over again as well as wondering if and where we might have posted an answer to help you - is very time-consuming.

I spent hours in September looking up information about hair, to help you - which I have now posted. Please realise we have your best interests at heart but also that it is not helpful if the forum becomes a complete free for all ie anything goes anywhere.

Hurdity
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: LizzyLoo on December 11, 2019, 09:57:39 PM
Hi

My patch goes on upper outside of thigh (alternate each time) and I have rare sticking issues x
Title: Re: Estradot patches
Post by: Sammiejane on December 11, 2019, 10:59:38 PM
hi hurdity

i to have been affended by your comments and others regarding my smoking ! posting bout hairloss making dogs about everything's about hairloss and nobody other then yourself has asked me to posting about hairloss it's not up to you to dictate what people can and can't ask