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Menopause Discussion => Personal Experiences => Topic started by: CLKD on August 09, 2019, 03:14:53 PM

Title: Is anyone aware of CCTV in hospitals, mortuaries etc.?
Post by: CLKD on August 09, 2019, 03:14:53 PM
I didn't know where to post this  :-\ but the headline struck me as strange .........

Emiliano Sala: Pair admit accessing post-mortem CCTV


makes scarey reading me thinks  :-\ surely permission should be sought from relatives and isn't this something that we should know about? 
Title: Re: Is anyone aware of CCTV in hospitals, mortuaries etc.?
Post by: Sparrow on August 09, 2019, 03:49:46 PM
CCTV is everywhere.  We are the most watch people in the world.  Facial recognition is even more scary.

I am suspicious of people in authority and in particular the police.  Big Bother is very much watching you and everyone else.  >:(
Title: Re: Is anyone aware of CCTV in hospitals, mortuaries etc.?
Post by: CLKD on August 09, 2019, 03:50:17 PM
But in Hospitals etc.?  :-\
Title: Re: Is anyone aware of CCTV in hospitals, mortuaries etc.?
Post by: Foxylady on August 09, 2019, 03:51:33 PM
necessary evil although yes intrusive!
Title: Re: Is anyone aware of CCTV in hospitals, mortuaries etc.?
Post by: Sparrow on August 09, 2019, 03:52:43 PM
But in Hospitals etc.?  :-\

I'm surprised your surprised.
Title: Re: Is anyone aware of CCTV in hospitals, mortuaries etc.?
Post by: CLKD on August 09, 2019, 03:53:49 PM
I have never been told that CCCTV is in operation in Theatre, mortuaries etc..  One would have to sign a consent form surely to have filming taken during surgical intervention .......... that's taking chaperoning TOO FAR!
Title: Re: Is anyone aware of CCTV in hospitals, mortuaries etc.?
Post by: Sparrow on August 09, 2019, 03:55:36 PM
Nope, they don't have to tell you anything, or ask your permission.

Welcome to the 21st century.
Title: Re: Is anyone aware of CCTV in hospitals, mortuaries etc.?
Post by: CLKD on August 09, 2019, 03:57:53 PM
Actually, if photographs etc. are taken whilst someone is unaware, they do have to ask permission.  It should be part of the Consent Form.

Photography in a public place doesn't need permission.  The copyright remains with the photographer.  However, during sports when taking photos of children under 18 are taken, signed parental permission is required.  Under Safeguarding.

I'm off for a look-see - no way would anyone be taking film of me, dead or alive, without permission!
Title: Re: Is anyone aware of CCTV in hospitals, mortuaries etc.?
Post by: Sparrow on August 09, 2019, 03:58:08 PM
There is a wild rumour that we have privacy rights, in this country.  Unfortunately it is just a myth.
Title: Re: Is anyone aware of CCTV in hospitals, mortuaries etc.?
Post by: CLKD on August 09, 2019, 03:59:03 PM
Oh no it's not ............  ;D [sorry, 4 months too early]
Title: Re: Is anyone aware of CCTV in hospitals, mortuaries etc.?
Post by: Sparrow on August 09, 2019, 04:00:25 PM
Actually, if photographs etc. are taken whilst someone is unaware, they do have to ask permission.  It should be part of the Consent Form.

Photography in a public place doesn't need permission.  The copyright remains with the photographer.  However, during sports when taking photos of children under 18 are taken, signed parental permission is required.  Under Safeguarding.

I'm off for a look-see - no way would anyone be taking film of me, dead or alive, without permission!

There will be a get out clause for 'security reasons'.  Technically I don't think hospitals come under public spaces.
Title: Re: Is anyone aware of CCTV in hospitals, mortuaries etc.?
Post by: CLKD on August 09, 2019, 04:15:23 PM
Under The Dangerous Dogs Act and any UK Law relating to Gun Crime, any area becomes a 'public space'.  Your car, your garden, your home ....... which is why Dempsey, the 1st Pitbull dog taken under that Act - from the M1 Service Station - from his owner's car, whilst he was sitting looking out the window  :'(.  Someone contacted the Police or the Police were trying to fill in the quotas that week and Dempsey was taken away and his owners weren't allowed to know where.  He died in Police 'custody' 5 years later  :'(.  The Vet who saw him at that time said that he had been neglected and Police admitted that food was shoved into the kennel as they were scared of him.  He was never walked, fussed or had a Vet check in those 5 years.

Sorry, I digress.

I have sent an e-mail to the named head of our local Hospital Safeguarding for Adults Team.  Will let you know  :). 

I'll also ask around.  My interest has been peaked  :D. I know a Funeral Direct quite well  :D
Title: Re: Is anyone aware of CCTV in hospitals, mortuaries etc.?
Post by: CLKD on August 09, 2019, 04:35:47 PM
Surrey Fire and Safety Service:

CCTV Legislation – a simple guide to UK CCTV laws
 

CCTV legislation was introduced in the UK in 2012, followed by a Code of Conduct in 2013.  CCTV recordings are also covered by the Data Protection Act.  Sounds complicated? We provide a simple guide below.

I haven't read it yet.
Title: Re: Is anyone aware of CCTV in hospitals, mortuaries etc.?
Post by: Sparrow on August 09, 2019, 04:45:03 PM
Happy reading. Could be a cure for insomnia. 😴🙃
Title: Re: Is anyone aware of CCTV in hospitals, mortuaries etc.?
Post by: Katejo on August 09, 2019, 04:53:26 PM
But in Hospitals etc.?  :-\

I'm surprised your surprised.

So am I. What about newborn babies being snatched from a neonatal unit?
Title: Re: Is anyone aware of CCTV in hospitals, mortuaries etc.?
Post by: CLKD on August 09, 2019, 06:47:27 PM
I don't have a problem on Wards.  Though maternity and mental health wards should be key-pad anyway.  Certainly there were even back in the 1990s.

But in Mortuaries, operating theatres  :-\
Title: Re: Is anyone aware of CCTV in hospitals, mortuaries etc.?
Post by: jillydoll on August 09, 2019, 07:27:28 PM
Good point Hasty.
My poor old dad often went walk about when he had dementia and was in hospital waiting for a place at a care home.....mind you, by the time someone realised he'd gone missing, he was on his way home! Only to be picked up by the police, and escorted  back to hospital.
With everything that goes on today, I've no problem at all with cctv.
Unlike my OH who thinks totally the opposite!