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Menopause Discussion => Personal Experiences => Topic started by: Diamonds and pearls 53 on June 06, 2019, 10:58:36 AM

Title: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: Diamonds and pearls 53 on June 06, 2019, 10:58:36 AM
I haven't posted on here for a long time as have been doing ok on very low dose Femostan which seems to keep me ticking over. At age 66 ( just!) I have now been on hrt for nearly 10 years, with a couple of enforced breaks due to bleeding issues a few years ago.
Scans at the time all proved negative and the GP agreed l should resume low dose hrt which l've been on since. However, l have just seen my GP and she said that after 10 years they prefer women to come off hrt as they are 4 times more likely to get breast cancer after this period. l pointed out that for me the benefits outweighed the risks but it has worried me. Is that statistic actually fact?  I really don't want to come off hrt as l really struggled during the time l was without it, but she said it was just putting off the inevitable!
Title: Re: How long can l stay on hrt
Post by: Diamonds and pearls 53 on June 06, 2019, 11:01:18 AM
Sorry just seen the mis- spelling in the headline previous headline
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: jaypo on June 06, 2019, 11:38:39 AM
Loving the mis spelling 😆
My friend hit menopause at 37,she is now almost 56 & her dr quite happy to let her stay on it,it's all very conflicting advice isn't it? I never went on hrt due to a lot of breast cancer in the family but even the advice on that has changed.All so confusing
I like your name,not a prince fan are you 😊
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: Dotty on June 06, 2019, 11:46:54 AM
Guidelines are now that you can stay on hrt for as long as you need it x
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: Diamonds and pearls 53 on June 06, 2019, 11:56:04 AM
Hi Dotty, thank you, l said to the GP that l was hoping to stay on it for life but she said that would be extremely unlikely! It was her mention of the breast cancer stars that worried me.
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: Diamonds and pearls 53 on June 06, 2019, 12:02:23 PM
Hi Jaypo,  yes, very confusing, plus GP was obviously anti hrt. And yes, Prince was the inspiration for my user name :-)
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: jaypo on June 06, 2019, 12:19:37 PM
Do you have a dr at your practice who deals with menopause'there are so many who are ill informed,as you will see the longer you are on this forum.
Loved prince,saw him many many times
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: Cassie on June 06, 2019, 01:16:27 PM
My Gynae says indefinitely! He has ladies in their late 70s and 80s on HRT.
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: Diamonds and pearls 53 on June 06, 2019, 05:43:32 PM
Hmm l think l will see if there is another Doctor at the practice and challenge that comment then. What about the risk of breast cancer being 4 times more likely after you have been on it for 10 years? Does anyone know if that's true?
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: Joaniepat on June 06, 2019, 06:52:44 PM
Hmm l think l will see if there is another Doctor at the practice and challenge that comment then. What about the risk of breast cancer being 4 times more likely after you have been on it for 10 years? Does anyone know if that's true?

When they make these wild statements it is as well to ask them to back it up with evidence. There would be no extra BC risk with transdermal, and probably none with your low dose Femoston. There is no time limit for taking HRT. It is only GPs' lack of training in anything to do with the menopause that leads them to come out with this nonsense. What does she mean by putting off the inevitable? What is inevitable exactly? The return of symptoms if she stops your HRT is probably inevitable, along with a decline in your general health. Grrr!!!

JP x
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: Diamonds and pearls 53 on June 06, 2019, 08:43:50 PM
Hi Joaniepat, yes l should have asked for evidence but her comment threw me. When l mentioned the Nice guidelines re being able to stay on hrt indefinitely she just brushed it aside and repeated the breast cancer risks when taking it for over 10 years. She did give me another 6 month prescription however so that's something!
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: CLKD on June 06, 2019, 08:51:25 PM
What rubbish.  Go back and tell her that you want a double mastectomy ;-).  If HRT is 'that' dangerous why do NICE allow it?  Prescriptions cost the Surgery!! as well as GPs simply not knowing a) how HRT can ease symptoms and b) how much rubbish they spout  >:(

 ::)

You can stay on it for as long as you like. 
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: Diamonds and pearls 53 on June 07, 2019, 07:49:50 AM
Hi CLKD, thankyou! I too feel that prescribing hrt is often money related. Plus many  GPs are woefully ignorant about the menopause in general. I also mentioned l got lots of muscular aches and pains and said l felt l needed a slightly higher dose of hrt rather than less, and asked if l might have a blood test to check hormone levels. She said no, and told me to take over the counter Vit D and also said aches and pains were often a side effect of hrt!
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: Countrygirl on June 07, 2019, 08:16:25 AM
I agree with CLKD that cost comes into it, as I felt my gp really didnt want me to take it and kept pushing anti depressants, but luckily the gynaecologist looked at me and listened and prescribed it and it's now on repeat, but I know if I need to change it in any way I will have a fight on my hands. Yet I saw a locum who upped the strength no problems and told me I shouldn't have to grit my teeth to get through it when there were things that could help make it easier x

I would definitely try to speak to a different dr as I've found all gps have completely different opinions on hrt x
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: Diamonds and pearls 53 on June 07, 2019, 09:53:35 AM
Hi Countrygirl, it's amazing that where hrt is concerned women seem to be subject to the opinions of different doctors! Also I too have had anti depressants offered as a substitute.I shall see a different Dr next time l think.
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: CLKD on June 07, 2019, 12:13:37 PM
Many years ago, crikey B4 I was married  :o I went to the Family Doctor [remember them?] for The Pill.  "What would you say if I told you that I don't prescribe this due to my Religion?"  he got short shrift I can tell you ..........  :cuss: 'you shouldn't let your person preferences come into your prescribing decisions!'. "You are so like your Father".  'Yep, until you prove otherwise'.  I was all of 16  ;D but I go the script.

I still can't believe that a GP would consider his ethics against his hypocritical oath.  Seems that personal attitudes still prevail  :-\ :'(
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: Diamonds and pearls 53 on June 07, 2019, 12:44:09 PM
CLKD, So it would seem! Coincidentally, an equally long time ago ( 1971) when l decided to go on the pill l didn't dare go to my family doctor for the same reason! I was I8 but didn't want him telling my Mum which l'm sure he would have done. Well done to you for standing up to your Dr at such a young age though!
Luckily l found out about  the Marie Stopes clinic in London and was able to go there.  A bit of a trek but worth it!
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: CLKD on June 07, 2019, 03:38:44 PM
I had no transport so the GP was the option.  Had he told anyone there would have been fireworks I can tell you!  Bugga if the first Pill didn't make me heave in the mornings  :o so I had to come up with an excuse to Mum ..........
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: Emerald2017 on June 08, 2019, 05:00:40 AM
My first gyn told me that hrt is poison and I must avoid it! I was 41! His attitude was unethical and non scientific at all!
My next gyn gave me hrt almost immediately and say that I can stay on it for life if I want, with regular checks up. Nobody can tell you that hrt causes cancer or not taking hrt you can avoid cancer.
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: Diamonds and pearls 53 on June 08, 2019, 09:57:15 AM
Isn't it depressing that we are still in the hands of G.Ps who are not properly clued up on hrt? I would still like to know where mine got her evidence that long term hrt ( over 10 years) causes a 4 times increase in breast cancer. I will definitely question it next time l go to the surgery.
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: CLKD on June 08, 2019, 09:59:40 AM
I would send an e-mail to the Surgery D&P - and ask for Research Papers to back up that statement. Then when you go for the next appt. you can query it!

Most of what we do has the potential to poison our bodies: food, air quality, medication .......... water in some parts of the World .......... allergens. 
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: Diamonds and pearls 53 on June 08, 2019, 10:08:58 AM
CLKD, That's a good idea, at least it would answer my question so that l can then make an informed decision.
Title: Re: How long can l stay on her?
Post by: CLKD on June 08, 2019, 10:30:18 AM
It may be that the Surgery are 'quoting' very old dis-credited research papers.   ::)