Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Aggie on May 21, 2019, 09:48:07 PM
-
Hi Everyone - not been on here for ages although I didn't have to log in so probably been logged on for the last 2 years lol. ;D. Not got the mental energy to type a full explanation but does anyone have any experience of taking venlaflaxine on it's own? Did my old trick of reading the instruction leaflet and it totally put me off. GP also said the first two weeks on it can be horrid. What can you tell me about it? Is it worth getting through the first two weeks?
-
Hi not sure about the brain fog ,but citalopram has helped me with anxiety and depression.
There's a type of anti depressant which is supposed to help with hot flushes but I can't remember the name sorry .
Do you think you are depressed ?or are your symptoms due to menopause?
-
Hi friend of Ihasa apso - thanks for the reply - no not really depressed as such - my main psychological symptoms from menopause are brain fog and feeling angry and impatient all the time, which is not an attractive quality and certainly not me. I can't have HRT (long story) and don't really want to take an antidepressant. I'm glad you have found some relief from using Citalopram. It's great when something does actually work isn't it.
-
Hi Aggie,
if you go to the top of this page and click on Treatments, then go down and click on "Prescribable Non-HRT" you'll find some non-antidepressant options such as Clonidine or Gabapentin. I notice that Venlafaxine is mentioned under SSRI drugs.
Best of luck.
-
Hi Aggie, I have a prescription for this too for help with vestibular migraine. I too am petrified. I have never tried an SNRI before. I have it in extended release tablet form 37.5...the pharmacist told me it is ok to cut and start smaller dose. I think I am planning on trying once my kids are out of school and I don't have to drive. Just came off of nortripyline. I asked my obgyn about venlaflaxine...she was not who prescribed it for me, but said it is a really good one for meno anxiety, panic, hot flashes. Best of luck whatever you decide. :)
-
Hi Beaker - thank you - I always forget to look in the files (forget blimin everything tbh) I will go there after I've written this.
Hi Rosie - I hear you. There is never a right time to try something that might send you off in the wrong direction until you get used to it, is there. I've had the venlaflaxine in the cupboard for ages and keep putting off the start - my doc told me to ‘persevere with it' for at least two weeks, which didn't bode well. The main side effect I would be looking to avoid is feeling sick - don't get on very well with that (well, who does lol). I've been angry for absolutely no reason for the last couple of years which I'm just doing my best to contain, but think I might be on the start of flushes so I might just have to bite the bullet and try. Hope you get on alright with it too when you give it a go. Let me know how you go.
-
Hi Everyone,
I too have a pack of Venlefaxine that was prescribed for me yesterday after visiting the gp for an hrt review. I thought I was just going get my dosage upped because I've had irregular bleeding, feeling down & migraines increased over last month, but he said I had to come off if it due to stroke risk!! I was gutted :'( Has given me the venlefaxine to help with hot flushes & anxiety, but I don't want to take it at all.
The thought of summer with sleepless nights, bleeding all over the place & exhaustion again depresses the heck out of me after I've had 12 months of bliss on hrt patches.
And as for the brain fog!!! :-\
-
Venlafaxine is the particular AD that's supposed to help with hot flushes. I haven't tried it because they're not a particular problem for me. Unfortunately for some people the start-up period with ADs is pretty crap and it can be up to a couple of weeks - that isn't always the case though, some people get onto them with pretty much no side-effects whatsoever. You can only know by trying. And I know what you mean about reading the info in the box - I've given up doing that, it's just too scary but bear in mind that most people won't suffer any of those effects, the manufacturers just have to cover their backs.
-
Hi Kazzyp - yeah the Venlaflaxine feels like a poor substitute doesn't it. What a shame you had to come off especially when it's been so helpful for you. I don't want to take the V either but, I think as Racjen has said - maybe reading the leaflet isn't always the best plan, as everything mentioned are worst case scenarios and doesn't effect everyone. Think I'm gonna give up reading leaflets too but always do as it flippen well tells you to lol ;D
-
Hi Aggie, I guess we'd better just give it a go & hope it does the trick. Good luck! 😉
-
Kazzyp - yes we should give it a go - but you first LOL. I have a busy June and I need to be at the top of my game (wishful thinking ;D) so it will be July for me. Great to hear how you find it. (And interested to hear anyone else's experiences too)
-
Hi ladies, I don't want to sound doom and gloom but I take venlafaxine for depression and they are great but horrendous to come off. I took citalapram for 15 years and stopped working so tried everything and ended up on venlafaxine. I had to take the highest dose I could get of the doctors and forgot to take one after being on them a few months.
Well let's just say I felt like what it must be to come off drugs. Every step I took I had brain zaps, migraine, weird dreams, woke shivering but drenched, I was so worried as was not aware I had missed one and as soon as I took one I was fine.
I looked further into it and lots of support groups about coming off them.
I don't want to scare you ladies but please be aware what your taking as these are very hard to get off. Even support groups on Facebook but google venlafaxine and withdrawal Xx
-
Hi Butterfly - thanks for your input. I think it's another thing I had read but not fully taken on board. Well it would have to be bloody well worth it - potentially two weeks of getting used to it and then living with the fear of what happens when you decide to come off. I try to avoid medication if I can anyway so maybe I will just carry on suffering and chuck them in the bin. I can suffer the sweats and a lot of the other symptoms but really struggle with the brain fog, doggy memory etc. Thanks again for the heads up.
-
Maybe you could try something else? As this is one of the worst to come off, they are not all this bad. I've not looked to far into taking ADs for flushes as I do take HRT as well. Have you tried sage? I no a few ladies that it's helped xx
-
Hi ladies, I don't want to sound doom and gloom but I take venlafaxine for depression and they are great but horrendous to come off. I took citalapram for 15 years and stopped working so tried everything and ended up on venlafaxine. I had to take the highest dose I could get of the doctors and forgot to take one after being on them a few months.
Well let's just say I felt like what it must be to come off drugs. Every step I took I had brain zaps, migraine, weird dreams, woke shivering but drenched, I was so worried as was not aware I had missed one and as soon as I took one I was fine.
I looked further into it and lots of support groups about coming off them.
I don't want to scare you ladies but please be aware what your taking as these are very hard to get off. Even support groups on Facebook but google venlafaxine and withdrawal Xx
Hi. I was on Venlafaxine for post natal depression many years ago after I'd had my twins. Whilst they worked, I had been almost manic and they calmed me RIGHT DOWN, I did feel like a zombie. Anyway, in relation to coming off them, I'd also read the horror stories so tapered off over months. And I mean months! I seem to remember mine were capsules with little beads in and I literally measured them out ( roughly obviously) when I got down to one tablet every other day and then half of that every other day and then every third day etc. I didn't experience the withdrawal doing it this way.
-
I'm glad you managed to come off slowly, the doctor said f I come off then will have to do this and could take months as on high dose tablet, intake 3 a day.
I just want people to be aware before trying them as I've used them as a last resort for bad depression xx
-
Hi Aggie,
just to update; I took my first one after dinner yesterday evening & felt nauseous within an hour 😕. Felt rotten when I went to bed & have woken up feeling like a zombie! I don't feel good at all.
I think I'm going to wait & see what happens without my hrt for a while then, IF I need them I'll try again.
I know these symptoms subside in a week or two if you persevere, so for someone really suffering it'd be worth it, but at the mo I'm not. Fingers crossed 🤞
-
Hi Aggie,
just to update; I took my first one after dinner yesterday evening & felt nauseous within an hour 😕. Felt rotten when I went to bed & have woken up feeling like a zombie! I don't feel good at all.
I think I'm going to wait & see what happens without my hrt for a while then, IF I need them I'll try again.
I know these symptoms subside in a week or two if you persevere, so for someone really suffering it'd be worth it, but at the mo I'm not. Fingers crossed 🤞
Thanks for the update! Just dreadful. I was going to cut a tablet and try a piece last night. chickened out. That awful nausea and appetite loss happened to me after Lexapro, which is not as strong as venlaflaxine. It should be out of your system soon.
-
Rosie77 mine are the 75mg XR ones - I think you said your's were 37.5mg earlier on, so hopefully not so brutal! Many years ago I took Seroxat for a period of time and I don't remember ever feeling like this. Had a rough time coming off those, so can sympathise with those struggling now though.
Venlefaxine is obviously a lot more potent 😳 or just doesn't suit me.
Starting to feel better now but have been rough all day.
-
I don't think it's a question of potency, just that each anti-depressant (even within the same category eg SSRIs, SNRIs etc.) is slightly different in its chemical make-up and effects. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many out there. Add to that the fact that two individuals can react completely differently to the same drug, and that probably goes for withdrawal effects too. I'm on Day 2 of Fluoxetine (Prozac), having had no improvement whatsoever after 12 weeks on Mirtazapine. I feel increased anxiety, really bad stomach upset, no appetite whatsoever, fuzzy headache....but so far no increased depression or suicidal thoughts, which have been my problem with other SSRIs. Will stick it out for as long as I can, I desperately need relief from the relentless depression and anxiety which HRT doesn't seem to be touching.
-
Butterfly - thanks for the sage suggestion - I can't see anything about whether or not it raises oestrogen - if it does then it's off the menu for me sadly. It sounds like tapering the doseage off is the way to come off. However, based on your experience Kazzyp I think I will follow suit with Rosie and chicken out. (For now anyway). I can't handle feeling sick AT ALL. I would rather stay like the sweaty angry airhead I am TBH. Why can't it be simpler to find something that works with no side effects. (Wouldn't be so many threads and posts on here if there was a holy grail to it though I suppose)
Racjen it sounds as though you have tried a lot of different ones - fingers crossed the Prozac does the job for you.