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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: flaxhigh on May 07, 2019, 11:29:49 PM

Title: Private consultants who support vaginal use of utrogestan? Pretty please!!
Post by: flaxhigh on May 07, 2019, 11:29:49 PM
Please can anyone proffer the name of their consultant who has supported the use of utrogestan vaginally.

I am due to see Prof Studd's colleague Michael Savvas next Monday but don't want to waste my money if someone knows he doesn't support vaginal utrogestan.

Who does? I'd be super-grateful if you would name anyone you have seen who has advised you it is okay. Yes, I have found links to the French who say it's okay but for my peace of mind (cancer survivor here) I need a consultant's reassurance...

But I need to see the right one.

Anyone?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Private consultants who support vaginal use of utrogestan? Pretty please!!
Post by: Dotty on May 08, 2019, 04:46:16 AM
Dr Renee Hoenderkamp or Dr Louise Newson x
Title: Re: Private consultants who support vaginal use of utrogestan? Pretty please!!
Post by: Hurdity on May 08, 2019, 07:05:59 AM
Hi flaxhigh

Sorry to hear abput your previous cancer - do you mind my asking which type you had?

Re vaginal use of utrogestan - you do not need to go privately to do this! It is licensed for vaginal use elsewhere in Europe and there are lots of studies showing its efficacy in protecting the endometrium. I have posted them regularly but can post them again if you like? Utrogestan is available on NHS and then you just tell your GP you are using it vaginally if they haven't heard of its use this way. Really no need to spend all that money!

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Private consultants who support vaginal use of utrogestan? Pretty please!!
Post by: flaxhigh on May 08, 2019, 11:21:58 PM
Thanks Dotty for that.

Yes, I know Hurdity...but I'm a worrier. I've found (and posted my own) links here. I feel perhaps I should  get some kind of check up since I've been doing the oestrogen for 6 months now and I was supposed to see Prof Studd after 3 months (only I couldn't get on his regime).

Don't I need a scan or something....? I'm now up to a patch and a quarter (hoping to get up to 2 patches) and getting on okay now with the vaginal utrogestan 100mg every day which I've been doing for 3 weeks now. I've only just got on to the patch and a quarter. Took me most of this time to build up very slowly to that level.

How often do you get checked out on our regime?

Breast cancer when I was 42 with two babies 2 and 5! But not invasive. I shouldn't really be on HRT but have to due to other stuff going on with my health.
Title: Re: Private consultants who support vaginal use of utrogestan? Pretty please!!
Post by: flaxhigh on May 08, 2019, 11:23:49 PM
Dotty - just to confirm that these two consultants completely okayed the vaginal route LONG-TERM for utrogestan? I'd be super-grateful to know....

Thanks!
Title: Re: Private consultants who support vaginal use of utrogestan? Pretty please!!
Post by: Dotty on May 09, 2019, 06:51:04 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aT3aSVfjb20 
Have a look at Dr Renee's vlog about progesterone.

I agree with Hurdity that you don't need to pay privately to use the Utrogestan vaginally. X
Title: Re: Private consultants who support vaginal use of utrogestan? Pretty please!!
Post by: MicheleMaBelle on May 09, 2019, 08:57:57 AM
Hi Dotty- that was a good vlog. Utrogestan is generally not available in Scotland even although I'm on it. I'm not sure if this is down to my consultant telling my GP to prescribe it though. I certainly wasn't aware until recently that it wasn't approved for HRT use north of the border!
Title: Re: Private consultants who support vaginal use of utrogestan? Pretty please!!
Post by: Dotty on May 09, 2019, 09:02:44 AM
Hi MicheleMaBelle
Dr Renee has some wonderful vlogs on menopause . She also had an Instagram page dedicated to menopause and she posts on a Facebook page run by Diane Danzebrink called Menopause Support x
Title: Re: Private consultants who support vaginal use of utrogestan? Pretty please!!
Post by: MicheleMaBelle on May 09, 2019, 12:16:09 PM
 :thankyou: dotty. I'll have a look x
Title: Re: Private consultants who support vaginal use of utrogestan? Pretty please!!
Post by: Mandyjw on May 09, 2019, 12:32:41 PM
Hi!
My gynaecologist approves use vaginally Mr Nicholas Hill (London and Kent hospitals) I had an Ablation with him in January and I was using utrogestan for 14 days a month after the op he put me on it continuously used vaginally x
Title: Re: Private consultants who support vaginal use of utrogestan? Pretty please!!
Post by: Ladybt28 on May 09, 2019, 01:24:24 PM
Michelle/flaxhigh - my consultant who is NHS here in Northern Ireland ok'd use of utrogestan vaginally.  I use mine on a cycle 12 days per month.  She also runs a private practice here - she is Joanne McManus.  I think you will find that Professor Studd is the pioneer of prescribing utrogestan this way and there are women who post here on the forum who have seen him and are use his regimes.  I think from my reading here and on other sites, the way he uses hrt is considered outside the normal prescribing licence (eg what the manufacturers put on their leaflets) but he has written many papers on the way he uses them and his approach is becoming more widely known and plenty of women use his methods.  Louise Newsom also uses it this way.

Just because a GP or consultant doesn't support it doesn't mean that it's not ok, it just means they are not very up to date with their reading!  As Hurdity said, it's licensed that way in Europe to use that way...it's just our GP's etc are a bit behind - bless em! >:(
Title: Re: Private consultants who support vaginal use of utrogestan? Pretty please!!
Post by: CLKD on May 09, 2019, 01:51:41 PM
Why not take HRT?  regardless ...... I don't get it.  If it were that dangerous then bilateral mastectomy should be recommended ?  :-\

Let us know how you get on.  I've had Ovestin without problems from my GP.  The feeling of razor blades up there  :o was impossible to live with.  Quality of Life?
Title: Re: Private consultants who support vaginal use of utrogestan? Pretty please!!
Post by: TNM45689 on May 09, 2019, 01:59:14 PM
Mr Panay and his team (at Chelsea and Westminster - not private) advocate its use vaginally - my GP was horrified at the thought.....

Hope this helps.
x
Title: Re: Private consultants who support vaginal use of utrogestan? Pretty please!!
Post by: flaxhigh on May 11, 2019, 02:56:39 PM
Many thanks everyone - extremely reassuring!