Menopause Matters Forum
General Discussion => This 'n' That => Topic started by: CLKD on April 03, 2019, 02:21:56 PM
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Someone mentioned ?[Teresa]? Why is this tolerated? Where are the parents in all this :-\ ...........
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Unfortunately clkd the parents are on them too,the kids don't stand a chance
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You can only hope these days that drugs won't infiltrate your family,I used to work with drug users and some of them were parents and it used to upset me so so much seeing the way they talked to their children,effing and blinding at them,you just knew that these children didn't have a hope.
Sometimes you think it's a losing battle 😞
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Blame is often frustration.
I never ran with the crowd. I wasn't allowed to. I did get the 'drugs' discussion B4 I began College ::) ....... but I wasn't going to do things simply because others did.
Friendships are so important from about the age of 9, when children become more aware. At a time when they are aware that they will move 'up' and hopefully friends will go 'up' too - so being in the crowd is a kind of safety. By mid-30s I was aware that friendships don't last or they change or people move away ....... but at age 9+ being told that wouldn't have made much difference. Even though I had friends in the different hobbies who didn't cross over to visiting at home ....... I lived in the moment usually and never though ahead.
Most people think that if they experiment that they can 'get off' or 'stop smoking' but sadly, find out that isn't always the case. My sister was the same with ciggies ........ always said that she could stop when she wanted then would be caught ........ alcohol the same. Fortunately my anxiety didn't take me that way.
I am aware that in the Midlands many Schools have sniffer dogs attending several times a day, at the Gates or inside the premises. It is said that the local burger van traded things as well as burgers, it stood a few yards from the secondary school. It had a Licence so couldn't be moved on ...... apparently. A lad was stabbed not far from this van about 5 years ago ........... of course, talk was that it was drug related :-\
I suppose the message is, why do what others want you to do? and if you don't feel comfortable about a situation, tell friends that you will wait a few days. That way the young person can watch what happens to others in relation to their actions.
One can't avoid sounding like one is a) nagging and b) of course, adults don't know much do they :'(
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One can smell it :-X. 'cool' meaning what exactly ::) ..........
I wrote a huge spieill which disappeared :-X ;D
I suppose the thing to do is ask what the child in question sees as his/her future. How they hope to achieve their dreams, say in the next 3 months and what they can see would stop them getting there? Treating our young people as adults is important. I saw a comment recently in a daily paper that a woman realised quite soon after birthing her first child that she had delivered a young person, not a baby ......... it had arrived with it's own thoughts, hopes, dreams that would gradually emerge as it grew.
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::) - I didn't step out of line .... didn't dare, too many people knew me :-X. I would have got a clout on my return home. I didn't want to rock the boat anyway, that altered as I aged and needed to stand up for myself. That would be oh, around mid 30s ::)
We used to go to music festivals and the smell wafting across the field ::). :D. We were offered spliffs but as we didn't smoke we shook our heads but I could smell it ........ characteristic.
I suppose we are invincible: like road accidents, addiction is something that happens to others.
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That's the problem clkd,we were scared to step out of line in case we got hugely into trouble,unfortunately these days it's the parents afraid of their children
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Haha me too Stella, I never even swore in front of my mum.........EVER!!
It's all you can do CG,if they get good influences at a young age then you've done you're best but not much you can do about who they fall in with as they get older.
Also,if you watch police programmes etc,the way they talk to the police,blimey,if I ever saw a policeman when I was a child I was in awe of them
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Because Police didn't hide in vehicles, there were on bicycles ::) and would creep up behind with an "OI!"
Whilst we know that children are aware of drugs etc., I don't think they can feel what it is like until for many, it's too late. Unlike alcohol which can be shared in homes, parents in general can't give kids an idea of what it might be like within the confines of their homes.
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:D I'd rather smell their choice ::) ......... I've had enough bad side effects from prescribed drugs :o and have never been clubbing. I wouldn't have tried anything though, that's not hindsight but simply how I am ;)
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.i dont use drugs but I know how I could get my hands on anything I chose in 10 minutes flat. Its everywhere.
But having said that I knew where I could get them if I wanted inside and outside the school gates 40 years ago the only difference is they've now got cheaper and stronger.
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Your Mum - in the labour suite - not a good combination then?
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It's spiralling out of control unfortunately,we had over 100 addicts in our pharmacy and that's just for one tiny area,methadone is NOT the answer,I think the public think it's a cure,it's not,it's a heroin substitute and the majority of users were still taking other drugs on top of it,a tiny and I mean tiny % would come off altogether as for the rest,well,it was their free “fixâ€
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Would this headline put youngsters off?
'Street cannabis 'contains dangerous amount of faecal matter' ........
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Would this headline put youngsters off?
'Street cannabis 'contains dangerous amount of faecal matter' ........
If they knew what faecal meant... 🤔
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😆🤣😂 probably think it's a new drug on the market
Although one of our “customers “ was a divinity student at one time,guess drugs can take a hold of pretty much anyone :-\
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We all have our stresses and none of us know what will lift us and many try drugs and get caught in the spiral. Certainly Methadone isn't always the answer. I think that more addicts should attend schools to talk to staff and pupils, bringing the situation over. Hard. Like road accidents we can always think that it won't happen to us :'(
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I've never been aware to be honest, other than at festivals. I would run a mile if I thought anyone was on anything that was going to make them :sick02: :-\
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We were cornered in our pharmacy one day,had to put shutters down and call the police as it was Xmas eve and we had told ALL the addicts to be in by 3pm as methadone had to be all tallied and returned to safe early for the two days we were shut but this one guy was late and it had all been put away,he went ballistic and as he stormed out we quickly locked the door,he then started kicking the door and screaming at us,calling us for everything,was only 3 of us,all women,we were terrified,luckily police sorted it all out but you've no idea what used to go on,some days they could hardly say their own name
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So sad. Fear makes people angry :-\
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Same here - at least I could return to my GP and ask for something else.
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How about a meander?
Kids taking part in 'marches'/dmonstrations against climate change. How does that work then? Allowed out of school to march but if the parents take their kids on holiday without permission, they get fined :-\
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Yep,one rule for one and one rule for the other
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How can a School have powers to fine parents :-\
I do believe though that there should be a Register of those who are Home Schooled.
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I think that if pupils are allowed to holiday during term time then teachers should be too. Not sure how parents would take it though if there was no teacher :-\
I agree that a Home School register should have been set up ages ago.
Taz x
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Criky Taz they get 6 weeks from School in the Summer as it is! We did have 2 weeks off to pick strawberries ........ and if children are allowed to march instead of being at lessons, then the parents should not be fined. After all travel is education too.
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Yes but if the teachers have six weeks off in the summer then surely the children have too? I just wondered how the parents would react if they dropped their children off only to be told that the school was very sorry but the teacher is away on holiday - come back next week. ;D
Taz x
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When my son was in Reception and year 1 we took him out of school for a week tagging it onto May half term this was back in 2007 & 2008 we had to fill in a form explaining the reason and the head would sign of on it. Back then my hubby had a job that meant Easter was year end, July/Aug was budgets/reports and so it went on only time we could go on a family holiday was May. I was always against taking son out but we wouldn't have had a holiday otherwise.
On the radio the other week discussion on holidays and it works out cheaper to pay a fine on top of holiday costs than it costs to go in Aug!
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Happen you should mention it - training days - suddenly decided upon so parents have to either take a day off work or find other care.
Every day is a learning curve. So taking a child out of school to do something else shouldn't be 'wrong'. It's all due to the Curriculum where very child across the country has to be reading the same book at the same time - no flexibility.
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I feel sorry for the parents that have a child in primary school in North Yorks and a child in High school in East Yorks and some of the holidays are never the same weeks and as for training days it is so difficult for parents that work, I was lucky I didn't work and had one of my friends children round when she was working.
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Milton Keynes school knives inquiry prompts teens' arrest - 4 lads aged 13-19 >:(
The suspects, aged 13 to 19, were detained after a silver Vauxhall Corsa pulled up outside Shenley Brook End School in Milton Keynes on Friday, Thames Valley Police said.
Some of those involved had their faces covered, the force (TVP) said.
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I heard that too Yorkie, on the radio.
The DJ said his mate took his kids out of school because he could get flights to Cyprus for 49 quid, return, so off they went, he didn't mind paying the fine for taking the kids out, it was cheaper than it would have been in July/August time...
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Yes, 'training' days. As they have three months holiday why can't they have them when the kids are off?
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We always wondered that, they go on about children's education.....
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It was in August so they could help with the harvest, but seeing very few of them do now I agree it could be time to change. People want to go during term because it's so much cheaper. If schools set their own holidays at any time of year perhaps it would stop the price hike. Or maybe parents with kids at different schools would complain too much.
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We had 2 weeks off end June/start of July for fruit picking and harvest was always mid-August and kids were expected to help, really young ones would take the dockie to the field workers, lads a bit older would ride the horse back to the farm at night ....... September, 2 week off 4 blackberry and potato picking ........
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There was talk a few years ago about doing away with the 6 week summer break but it seemed to just fizzle out. I remember there were years when my son had just over 7 weeks off.
This year he finishes college on 8 June for study leave, goes in for year end exams 24-28 June then it's end of term, except they have to go in on 8th July & don't return till 9th Sept!!
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Getting a Summer job then Yorkshire Girl ;D
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He might well do - if he can be bothered!
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Stellajane that was one idea government/headteachers came up with but as in earlier post it all sort of fizzled out.
It certainly is a problem, it can be hard for parents to take time off, grandparents find it exhausting, I was lucky I didn't work even if I did I had no family nearby.