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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: [email protected] on December 06, 2018, 07:48:13 PM
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Hi ladies me again sorry to be a pain but can't seem to stop worrying about these flutters and ectopic beats. I e been back to docs a couple of weeks ago but they don't seem worried. It's just me they really ruin my life, had them for years and get them most days just feel like crying sorry xxxx
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Oh catkins don't worry,I've had them since my 30s & I now just ignore them,esgs done & nothing untoward.my sister gets them too
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Ask for a 24 hr monitor
I do agree they are horrible and twice I've been called to see Cardiologist after wearing the 24 hr monitor, twice now I've been told it's arrhythmia but I can't take Beta Blockers , they've reduced quite a bit recently, have you tried Magnesium ? That's meant to help x
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Thankyou for replying ladies had a 24 heart monitor on couple of years ago and they caught ectopics.its just the occasion fluttering that sends me, and tend to build it up.ive cut things out and don't do alcohol so it's very frustrating but thankyou once again xx feel like iam being a pain going to docs ::)
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I will try magnesium what sort do I buy? Xx
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I use viridian high potency magnesium 300mg
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Thankyou will try those xxx
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Hi could I just ask jaypo do you get missed beats and the fluttering x
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Yes catkins,I honestly do,I've had ecg's & back when they first started I had the 24 hour monitor but it didn't show up anything sinister,the specialist put it down to anxiety back then,it's only if they get really bad that you need intervention,my sisters heart would do it for hours on end and eventually she was taken in,where they stopped her heart then re jigged it(that's the proper medical term😄) now she's on tablets to keep it regular,even that sounds worse than it actually is.
By all means get it checked,you should but 99% of the time it's ok,menopause in your case will no doubt be the culprit
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Yes mine at its worst skips beats, adds some in, races, slows right down, it does all sorts, all caught on ecg. It can go from 40-140bpm in a flash. They were talking about ablation to me but luckily the scan showed no abnormality.
The highest mines gone on recording is 199bpm at rest ! X
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I can see my clothes moving when mine goes nuts 😳
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Thankyou ladies for your replys really appreciate them xx
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Also ladies I know this sounds strange,all my symptoms started post menopause,not peri menopause any one else like this xxx
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No mine was peri x
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Hi,
Peri for me but only started around a year ago. Believe in not far off meno.
It is scary but honestly once tested you begin to fear them less (most of the time) xx
Wishing you peace ✌
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Hi Catkins, I'm post menopausal (5 years) and I have had palpitations, racing heart and flutterings since.
I've had 4 ecg's, I've worn 24hour monitor, 48 hour monitor and 72 hour monitor and neither of them caught anything. I went down to A&E during the night once because I thought I was having a heart attack but as I was getting wired up they more or less abated.
I occasionally take a beta blocker if they are really bad and it helps.
This morning after breakfast the fluttering started so I thought I would go on MM Forum and read other case histories - that usually calms me down and I saw your posting.
I can even have palpitations in my tummy sometimes...all weird. They are by far my worse symptom.
I still have hot flushes and nightsweats - I'm not on HRT are you?
By the way I have tried all the types of magnesium but they didn't seem to make much difference although magnesium is good for us so I take it most days. Most of my friends sailed through Menopause and didn't experience palpitations which doesn't help. 🙇🏼♀️ xxx
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So is the theory if its due to menopause they are not dangerous?
I had monitor on for 36 hours and fine some of the day then suddenly bp goes very high ,the doctor said couldnt give me high bp meds cos when its normal it would go to low and i would get dizzy ,she said it's due to emotional stress and to try yoga ,walking etc.
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Hi Carol you just sound like me I've been to AE as well with fast heart rate.And the palpitations and heart issues have been my worse symptoms like yourself. I took beta blockers,but docs took me of them as I felt I was walking on clouds. And don't take HRT just something I've not wanted to take. I know the palpitations are horrible but it's nice to know your not on your own thankyou for sharing your experiences xx catkins xx
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Hi am#think you still have to be checked and not assume everything is menopause.But so many ladies on here have this problem xx when does it all stop? :(
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Hi ladies, can I ask a question..I have never eaten meat and my family and friends think my horrendous menopause symptoms (palpitations, flushes, anxiety etc) are due to me being a vegetarian? I have argued my case but sometimes at the back of my mind I wonder...could it be?
It's so weird how sometimes it's flutters, sometimes actual palpitations and sometimes a racing heart?
Weird. 🤷🏼♀️
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Hi carol,that's other peoples solution to everything,every ache & pain,oh,it's because you're vegetarian.been veggie for 25 years now & I've survived this long 😄 there are women on here that suffer the most horrendous illnesses & are going through terrible menopause symptoms & i'll bet you that the majority of them are meat eaters,so it's a poor argument to say it's because you're veggie xx
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My palpitations were quite bad a few years ago and i had all the usual tests, 24 hour monitor etc, all ok. It was probably menopausal but didn't realise then. I still get the missed beats sometimes usually caused by anxiety but knowing this reduces the fear and the the vicious circle of more missed beats. There not actually missed beats but one delayed one, it then it feels like a big jump to the next one. If the tests are fine then try not to worry.
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I agree - I don't think eating meat would help me at all! I'm 64 and have never eaten meat
since I was a child. My parents despaired of me when I would choke on a bit of beef...
they even started putting it through a mincer but I just didn't like the texture or anything. 🤭
Think my meno symptoms are what they are. I've tried all the herbal remedies and HRT for 5 months
but nothing has helped so I think it's a case of accepting it for what it is.
When the palpitations start either take a beta bloker or just wait for it to pass.
Thank goodness for this forum - when I get up during the night feeling really anxious and look at other case histories I realise I'm not alone and it does help. 🙏🏽 XXX
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Hi ladies, can I ask a question..I have never eaten meat and my family and friends think my horrendous menopause symptoms (palpitations, flushes, anxiety etc) are due to me being a vegetarian? I have argued my case but sometimes at the back of my mind I wonder...could it be?
Just tell them that the menopause is no respecter of persons, and attacks both omnivores and vegetarians alike ;)
JP x
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Hello ladies.
Heart fluttering, palpitations and general internal jitters have been plaguing me during my meno journey and despite various HRT preparations I am still experiencing them even though I am eight years post meno.
I've had a week long heart monitor on two occasions and no abnormalities have been detected. In recent years the palpitations have lessened considerably but the jitters still bother me daily and they seem to move between my heart, my stomach and my bowels. Sometimes these horrible sensations just stop and I feel so much better but they always return and I can never figure out why! I find all this very distressing and anxiety provoking and worry that I'll never be free of them.
I have also wondered if diet has played a part in all this and although not a vegetarian I rarely ate meat in the past because I didn't like it. My periods stopped eight years ago and at the same time I was found to have Ulcerative Colitis which is an inflammatory bowel disease. I did some research and learned that animal products are pro inflammatory whilst plant products are anti inflammatory so I changed my diet to become pretty much vegan. I also take an anti inflammatory drug especially formulated for UC patients. I have regular blood tests and my inflammatory markers are in the normal range plus my last colonoscopy showed a normal colon so whilst my disease is under control I feel awful due to the regular fluttering/jittering.
It's worth looking at all aspects when trying to solve the heart fluttering problem but I haven't found a solution so far unfortunately.
You all have my sympathies ladies, it's a rotten thing to deal with and beyond frustrating!
Wishing everyone well.
K.
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OMG Kathleen I'm sitting here with a palpitating fluttery jittery feeling under my right rib cage exactly where I have my scar from gall bladder removal? I get this off and on. The Doc had a press around and found nothing? My palpitations go away ( not for long) and come back with know rhyme nor reason.
But the first minute I feel that flutter I have a sinking feeling.
I eat healthily and drink next to no alcohol or coffee. Although the doctor said a glass of wine won't harm me 🤷🏼♀️.
You sound very much like me - I've been post menopausal for 5 years.
Jari...I do take magnesium but not near as much as you. So you take 600mg each day? Is it okay to take that amount?
Well maybe I should try that. I've just taken 300/400mg in the past.
Thanks for sharing ladies. 😘
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Thank you Jari, I actually have magnesium citrate in the cupboard ( started taking it then stopped🤷🏼♀️) which I'll start taking and once that is finished I'll try the Viridian Brand. Thanks X
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Hello ladies.
Carol Litster - My jitters are driving me to despair this evening! Like you they can stop completely for no known reason but they can also continue all day. I keep a diary but I can't see what causes them to start or stop. I realise any anxiety doesn't help but I think they bring on the anxiety, I feel fine when they suddenly stop.
Sorry I can't remember if you are on HRT? I have recently increased my dose of Oestrogel from 2 pumps to 3 but of course now I'm worried that it's too much and actually making these sensations worse. Mind you I'm still having some flushes so that indicates not enough oestrogen. Minefield or what lol!
I wonder if any other condition apart from the menopause could cause these feelings? I'd like to ask my GP but available appointments don't come along very often, unlike these blooming jitters!
So sorry that you are suffering too. It's the pits and I truly sympathise.
Take care and sending hugs.
K.
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Hi carol not a big meat eater just a bit of chicken now and then.does make you wonder about diet if it has something to do with it ?.got a bit of stress going on and that can make them worse.so many ladies on here suffer with them.like you if having a bad night I come on here and read through the forum and find it comforting so thank you ladies xxxx
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Hi ladies
Thank goodness for some reassurance about these awful palpitations, flutters, jittery feelings like Ive had a dozen coffees.
Im 54 - no idea how long Ive been post meno....I assume I am but my levels have never been tested.
I was on HRT for a very short period but came off it as Id rather not take it.
Ive succumbed to going back on - if only to see if these awful symptoms go as at least then I will know.
So far I get told so many things are anxiety.....yes I do have an anxious personality - but I know I do which in my book means I can tell the difference.
I also have MS so yes I do get concerned as to what is linked to what......I think after reading many posts on here that the lovely menopause is answerable to alot more than MS right now.
So......magnesium - deficiency in this could be contributing as well.
I mentioned this to my doctor and get “we dont test for that.....just another fad.â€
Have any of you noticed a difference when taking a supplement - or is oil better tummy wise?
Thanks for letting me waffle.....I actually dont feel as lost in the deep end x
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.....just reading through the posts again.......my palpitations/flutters are worse today and Ive been back on Kliovance for two days - cant be that in such a short space of time can it? I went back on it in the hope of illiminating them :-/
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Hi Elle & welcome 👋 I'm not on hrt but do take supplements,I don't have a a lot of symptoms like some ladies on here,hot flushes and night sweats mostly but terrible anxiety like I've never experienced before,it comes and goes but I've been on magnesium and b12 and so far so good. I hate when drs just dismiss certain things for women,how dare they,if it works it works,maybe not for all but then we're all very different x
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Hi Ladies
I ve been getting these, happening early morning and enough to wake me up
I m thinking its HRT but I had them years ago had tests etc.
I took the patch off and within 2 hours they stopped.
Really hope its not HRT as I was feeling ok on them only a month but sleep was greatly improved
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Hello again ladies.
Jari - I am not sure about the HRT connection in my case as my palpitations/ jitters etc began before I started taking it. Infact they became worse about three years after my last period and were one of the reasons I wanted to try HRT in the first place. Having said that my palpitations are no where near as bad as they once were so perhaps they would have lessened anyway.
Hello Elle and welcome to the forum. Yep the jittery, anxious feelings have been my worst meno symptom by far. I was also relieved to learn that they can be a result of the menopause but that doesn't make them any easier to tolerate does it! Your GPs comment is pretty unhelpful. Surely adequate nutrition is always important for our health and any deficiencies are bound to have an effect whether there is a test for them or not. I think I have tried magnesium in the past but I honestly can't remember the result although I know it is essential for the heart rhythm. The other thing is that magnesium can cause looser stools I believe which may be a good thing if you have constipation. Like you I can be an anxious person but these sensations are very different and can appear at random times so I also blame hormones. I've never liked coffee so I've no idea how jittery too many cups can make you but one of the reasons I've avoided it is because I don't want to feel more wired than I naturally am lol.
Wishing you well ladies.
K.
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Hi Kathleen, I'm sorry you're suffering with these jitters etc. I really had a terrible time with it but it was the hrt that was causing it. As soon as I stopped hrt, it all calmed down.
When did you start taking hrt? My palpitations started around 6 weeks into taking hrt and got worse and worse until I stopped taking hrt.
X
Jari I am on 6th patch and my heart skips have started again since yesterday!! Waking up silly hours again sweating. Get up, feel sick and then I'm cold. Had the skips all day yesterday. Hoping it isn't the same today.
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Thanks Jari. I'm off work at the moment with bad stomach and lower abdomen pain. Unsure whether that's a side effect of the continuous combined HRT I'm on or gastritis. Getting fed up with it all now. O take Vit D 1000iu, use Magnesium Oil spray morning and night. Started Vit C 500mg. I'm waking at 3,4 or 5am sweating, pains kick in, flutters start and that's me for the rest of day. I am trying Hrt again to see if sleep, anxiety etc improve
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Hi Jari I was told that I have gastritis, which seems common. I've still got the heart skips today and I'm getting really anxious now when i feel it. Stomach feels knotted too. I'm trying to relax on sofa but each skip frightens me. Fed up :(
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Hi ladies, can I ask a question..I have never eaten meat and my family and friends think my horrendous menopause symptoms (palpitations, flushes, anxiety etc) are due to me being a vegetarian? I have argued my case but sometimes at the back of my mind I wonder...could it be?
It's so weird how sometimes it's flutters, sometimes actual palpitations and sometimes a racing heart?
Weird. 🤷🏼♀️
Absolute rubbish, menopause doesn't give a damn if you eat meat, or not babe
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I too get these palpitations but I think mine are related to anxiety. I am also waking up early with these. I feel drained & so tired. My OH says just relax & go back to sleep. Easier said than done.
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I too get these palpitations but I think mine are related to anxiety. I am also waking up early with these. I feel drained & so tired. My OH says just relax & go back to sleep. Easier said than done.
I am in no way suggesting it makes it easier for you but god how I wish I had a partner beside me when I'm having these early morning attacks