Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Angel1964 on October 31, 2018, 02:55:11 PM
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Hi ladies came off Femseven Conti 3 weeks ago tomorrow. Since then gave gradually felt worse. Ended up in A&E on Monday as felt so bad. Bad sweats at 5,am every morning, racing heart all day, nausea mornings on waking and cough and throw up phlegm. Lightheaded, feeling weak, still losing weight. Anyway hospital doc said I have typical symptoms of gastritis. Has given me omeprazole. Took 1 tablet on Monday, felt better, actually slept well and no sweating or nausea. Took another yesterday, ate loads. Last night felt dizzy and dry mouth. Woke this morning at 4am sweating buckets, nausea, fast heart, lightheaded and generally feel so yucky it's untrue. Have taken day 3 tablet today. In work now and feel spaced out, fast heart, dizzy. I am sick to death of not feeling well. Could these symptoms be hormones and worse since stopping HRT (was on patches 16 weeks) or is it gastritis??
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I had all those symptoms and they were menopausal symptoms. Hrt stopped all the horrible symptoms x
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Hi Dotty are you post menopausal? I am and really thought things would get better. I feel so ill it's untrue :(
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Hi yes I'm post meno. A year ago I started feeling very ill....3 years post meno. I felt sick, couldn't eat, felt dizzy, weak, exhausted , heart palpitations, insomnia, couldn't stop crying, night sweats, hot flushes....I can't describe how ill I was! I just about managed to get out of bed every day. Was on oral hrt for 4 months and I got worse . Saw 6 GPs and 2 private consultants. Finally got on Oestrogel and Utrogestan and slowly got my life back x
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I stopped my hrt for a while and got all my symptoms back. Although it's not balanced very well at the moment I know I cant function at all without it. Mind you Angle 1964 - there are plenty of "bugs" about at the minute so these could well be adding on top to some level of hrt "withdrawal". Always hard to say.
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Thanks Dotty and Ladybt28 they done bloods at hospital all ok so don't think viral. All ok apart from the gastritis diagnosis. I am breathless today too so thinking more hormones or anxiety. Feel totally washed out. Ive got doctor's tomorrow at 9am and have typed up a list. Think she's sick to death of me. She keeps wanting me to go on Citalopram but I have read the side effects so unsure. :(
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Definitely sounds like menopause to me. My GP wanted to put me on anti depressants but I couldn't see how they were going to help me. I never took them and I'm fine now that my oestrogen levels are right x
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If you read here Angle1964 - there are loads of ladies who display symptoms of depression and anxiety and their doctors want them on Anti-depressants but the real problem is they are having hormonal fluctuations causing the anxiety. Look at the list Dotty posted just now these are easily mistaken for other things and not the menopause. I am not a good person to comment on Anti-D's because I was on them a very, very, long time and they made no difference - it was hormonal for me through my whole life starting when I got my periods but no one put 2+ together.
If you think it is hormonal trust your gut (maybe not a good analagy given the gastritis!) but you know what I mean. Start there rather than give into the Dr's usual dishing out of pills. As for some patches which being transdermal avoid being processed by the stomach and then you will have to wait at least 3 months to see if everything/anything settles. It's tough to hold out but worth it in the end.....usually....although not always but you have to try.
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Just to add....I had every blood test under the sun; an endoscopy and a 24hr urine test. I was seeing my GP every week in desperation . Oestrogel was the only thing that worked for me but it did take 6-8 weeks to see any improvement and a further 4-6 weeks to see more improvement . I proved that I didn't need anti depressants x
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Hi Angel1964
I too went through all of the above, thought I was going mad, or I was seriously ill.
I had everything except the vomiting.
Could just be standing up anywhere and horrible feelings would come over me, feelings I can't even explain, then another one, then something else, it was just terrible.
Then I started to dabble in hrt, things started to improve, not brilliant, but then I knew it was hrt I needed, I'm 4 years post meno now, and have found something that works for me.. it was a long road, but here I am, better, and coping with the little things that hrt doesn't solve altogether......but boy, I wouldn't give it up for all the tea in China....lol
Good luck, hope you start to feel better soon. Keep posting, let us know.....xx
Just to add, my GP wanted me to go on antidepressants, I refused....xx
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Make a list of your symptoms and perhaps keep a mood/food/symptom diary. Have a chat with your Practice Nurse?
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I have just looked at my September calendar and always had slight anxiety 2 days a week when on HRT patches Femseven Conti. On looking at calendar for October, I stopped Hrt on 11th and anxiety has been virtually every day!! Should I put patches back on?? Feeling so desperate now :( :spin:
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Angel1964 - can you provide a bit more info - how long had you been on the Femoston Conti before you stopped? and where are you in the meno journey?
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Angel1964 - can you provide a bit more info - how long had you been on the Femoston Conti before you stopped? and where are you in the meno journey?
Hi I was on Femseven Conti patches 16 weeks.i am post Meno 3+ years.
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I have had the same experience as several others above in that the Dr tried to put me on ADs when I knew my depression was hormonal, I read this forum and stuck to my guns and asked for HRT and within 3 days of starting patches felt much better. I guess it`s a case of finding which ones work for you - luckily for me it was the 1st ones I tried without any side effects.
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Hi Angel1964 - sorry to bombard you with questions but the history is important to take into account - what made you stop the patches after 16 weeks? Were you on anything before that?
If you were not on anything before that - what made you start the femoston?
If you were totally new on HRT when you started the femoston 16 weeks was pretty much settling in period. I found when I just stopped my hrt for 4 months (which I had to suddenly because I ended up in hospital) the "withdrawal" symptoms were pretty dramatic for me. The body takes a while to adjust and settle onto hrt right at the beginning or when changing regimes but the fall out when you stop comes much quicker for some women!
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Hi Angel1964 - sorry to bombard you with questions but the history is important to take into account - what made you stop the patches after 16 weeks? Were you on anything before that?
If you were not on anything before that - what made you start the femoston?
If you were totally new on HRT when you started the femoston 16 weeks was pretty much settling in period. I found when I just stopped my hrt for 4 months (which I had to suddenly because I ended up in hospital) the "withdrawal" symptoms were pretty dramatic for me. The body takes a while to adjust and settle onto hrt right at the beginning or when changing regimes but the fall out when you stop comes much quicker for some women!
Hi Ladybt28 doc said come off as unsure whether it was helping anxiety. Was on hrt Sequi at peri then on mini pill after. Came off Mini pill over 3 years ago and gradually anxiety had increased. Doc wants me to go on Citalopram but I'm sure this is all lack of hormones. I now feel so jittery, nauseous, waking at 5,am every morning sweating and can't sleep. And the anxiety/jitters/shakes stays until later tonight. Then I want to sleep around 8/9pm but darent as will wake earlier than 5am.
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I've been following your situation. It really does sound like the lack of oestrogen is really upsetting your body and brain. If you still have some patches, why not put one on and see how you feel? If you improve, keep going. Give it at least 3 months to get used to the patch. If there are symptoms with it that you don't like, you can change to a different HRT. But just going without doesn't seem to be doing you much good right now.
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Yep that all sounds very familiar - I don't hesitate to bet that it's your hormones or lack of them. Dancingqueen and Jillydolls stories kind of support that. The issue is that some hrt can exacerbate that anxious feeling or not diminish it - you have to find the right one for you. As I said I was certifiable in another post on Provera (I knew it wasn't the Premarin because that is the oestrogen in PrempackC - now discontinued which I had had before). My anxiety, panic, nausea all disappeared on Oestrogel and Utrogestan but I haven't nailed the lethargy, motivation or problems I get with progesterone generally..yet! I have a plan though!
I personally would say get back on hrt Dr's (especially men) really have no real idea just what an impact hormones can have on anxiety in menopausal women, they seem to think it is all about hot flushes and dry bits! - but you will have to wait for it to settle - patches probably a good way to if you think they are ok get back on the Femseven Conti (what do you have to lose and it will give you an idea of whether they were working before you gave them up - a bit like a before and after) or go and ask for another type of regime that you feel may help from what you have read here.
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Thank you ladies. I appreciate so much your comments and advice. Much better than any doctor. I have stuck a patch on, hopefully it will kick in soon, as I feel like I'm going insane with these symptoms. Not going to start the Citalopram as don't really want to anyway. Xx
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Don't get to hung up on the "soon" bit - your body is a bit confused but I really hope that you start to feel better... week or so maybe? if sooner all well and good! Keep posting and tell us what's happening :great:
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However: if hormone therapy doesn't ease your anxiety .......... :-\
How's your diet overall? If the body is hungry it can cause anxiety surges >:( ! Also, that cortisol burst early in the morning floored me ........ even though I knew what was causing the deep fear it didn't help as the surges were B4 I woke :'(
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Yep - if the hormone therapy doesn't work you have a stash of citalopram on hand if you need it. One way or another, you'll find what you need.
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Thanks again Ladies. I will keep you posted. One more question is it normal to feel so nauseous, washed out, jitter, racing heart at post menopause? I am a worrier :(
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Yes that’s just how I felt. The nausea was horrendous all day and all night . I was shaky and jittery and felt really ill. The exhaustion was horrendous too. I couldn’t do anything around the house as I couldn’t stand up for longer than about 30 seconds. I gave up driving and didn’t go out of the house for months. The correct dose of oestrogen put everything right x
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Yep. HORMONES >:(. I would have nausea and dreadful period pains with clotting ........ I would feel light headed.
Washed out at times. Crashing fatigue. That's why it's known as The Change ........
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What was the correct dose of oestrogen for you dotty?
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Hi Ladybt.... 4 pumps of Oestrogel , Utrogestan and Testosterone.
I was on Kliovance for 4 weeks ( did nothing) Then Elleste Duet Conti for 12 weeks ( no improvement). Started on 2 pumps of Oestrogel and very quickly went to 3 and then 3.5 pumps. I had some improvement but not much . Went up to 4 pumps and began to improve although it did take about 3 months. X