Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => Other Health Discussion => Topic started by: Katejo on October 16, 2018, 03:55:14 PM
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After a recent urine test I still haven't got the result because the practice phone call system is so inflexible. I have missed 3 calls already in the past few days because they don't give a time period in which to expect the call. It can be any time between 8am and about 6.30pm! Yesterday I kept the mobile on my desk all day until 5.30pm and then gave up. The GP rang while I was on the tube so I missed it again. I wish they would leave a voicemail. No one else uses my phone so why not? I now have to wait until Friday for another call which I will probably miss.
I don't think I have got a problem because the Vagifem seems to be working at the moment but the receptionist isn't allowed to tell me anything.
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Anything to avoid speaking to a patient?
I don't have anything sent via mobile other than alerts to my dental appts.. If they can't get me on my land-line they don't speak to me.
Your Surgery needs to be made aware that the system ain't working! ::)
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Anything to avoid speaking to a patient?
I don't have anything sent via mobile other than alerts to my dental appts.. If they can't get me on my land-line they don't speak to me.
Your Surgery needs to be made aware that the system ain't working! ::)
I have already told the receptionist this. I also made the same point to a GP when at a patient support committee meeting. Ringing me on my mobile is fine. I don't want them to ring my landline. I am rarely there during working hours and don't answer when I am because they are almost always unwanted calls. I do a 1471 and ring back if needed. I picked up a new prescription of Vagifem today. The pharmacist at Boots agreed with me re. phone calls but I won't get another prescription after this one without speaking to the GP!
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Can you not ring and speak to the gp or even the secretary if it's just to find out results. Our gps never ring. It's always the secretaries or receptionists who ring or you can just ring up at a certain time of day for results. Our docs are usually too busy to speak to patients on the phone.
Seems a bit crazy to me.
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I've been at 2 surgeries now where the gp calls you, they have a specified gp who does the phoning to patients
If I need an appt I tell the receptionist the problem, I go on a list then the gp calls me to assess meds or whether I need to be seen
I had a kidney infection in August and needed 2 courses of antiobiotics and didn't see a gp once with it ! X
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Ours have had this system for ages. It's embarrassing to have to take a call about what may be a sensitive condition while at work. Current appointment waiting time with any doctor, not your actual registered one, is 7 weeks!!
Taz x
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Can you not ring and speak to the gp or even the secretary if it's just to find out results. Our gps never ring. It's always the secretaries or receptionists who ring or you can just ring up at a certain time of day for results. Our docs are usually too busy to speak to patients on the phone.
Seems a bit crazy to me.
No because the receptionist isn't allowed to give test results unless they have permission from the GP. Yes they have a set time of day for results but the doctor wants to speak to me. My practice is trying out phone consultations at the moment. I can't just ring and speak to the GP. I have to request a call back from them. Do you have a number to ring the GP directly? I have never come across any surgery which offers this. My practice has just started a GP email service but it is so new that I haven't had a chance to try it.
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Our Surgery has a call-back system. Maybe arrange for a specific receptionist to check your results and can then let you know. You shouldn't need to see a GP each time to get treatment for VA.
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Our Surgery has a call-back system. Maybe arrange for a specific receptionist to check your results and can then let you know. You shouldn't need to see a GP each time to get treatment for VA.
No because the receptionists have said that they are not allowed to. I have to speak to the GP. According to the receptionist, it is to do with the urine test but they may have got it wrong. If the test had showed infection, I would have needed an AB before now and the GP could just have done a prescription without seeing me again. I don't think I have.
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I've been at 2 surgeries now where the gp calls you, they have a specified gp who does the phoning to patients
If I need an appt I tell the receptionist the problem, I go on a list then the gp calls me to assess meds or whether I need to be seen
I had a kidney infection in August and needed 2 courses of antiobiotics and didn't see a gp once with it ! X
Yes the GP whom i saw is doing this job at the moment.
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Ours have had this system for ages. It's embarrassing to have to take a call about what may be a sensitive condition while at work. Current appointment waiting time with any doctor, not your actual registered one, is 7 weeks!!
Taz x
taking the call at work isn't a problem re. privacy . If I manage to answer it, I can just go to a different room. I actually almost have my own office at the moment.
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Any connection yet?
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Any connection yet?
I won't get another call until Friday. Today was no good because I can't take any calls when on duty in the library so couldn't be available all day.
After writing this i logged onto the appointment booking system and was really surprised to see that the GP phone call had been booked for between 2pm and 2.15pm on Friday. The receptionist didn't make any mention of a specific time slot. I had only logged on to see if I could book a routine appointment (to escape the need for a phone call).
Now need to wait and see if I get the call or not. It is a male doctor and I have never seen him before so I have no idea what to expect.
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Let us know. Could he send you an e-mail to your home addy? Mine will do.
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Let us know. Could he send you an e-mail to your home addy? Mine will do.
Update. I have just had the call from the new male GP. Compared to comments read from other MM users and on the VA FB page he wasn't too bad but still insists that it isn't safe to use Vagifem more than twice a week after the first 2 weeks. I commented on the reduction in strength to 10 (mg or mcg?) and on the NICE recommendations but he still wants to review use after the first 3 months and says that it should not be used for more than a year in total. I pointed out that I would rather use Vagifem (if it continues to work) than take frequent AB's and that it is a continuous process but I didn't persuade him. He only acknowledged that I had looked into it.
My urine test was inconclusive so I have to do another one on Monday. I don't think I have an infection. The test was done just after I had finished the initial 2 weeks of Vagifem and had reduced it to twice a week so the symptoms were returning . I have slight symptoms now but that is probably because I haven't used the Vagifem for a couple of days. I forgot to do it this morning.
My copy of the book by Jane Ellis has arrived here today so I will have a look at it over the weekend.
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Maybe send this to Dr Currie so that she can respond .......... in the meantime write a letter and ask this particular GP to put down the facts about vaginal atrophy use as he sees it, i.e. for 12 months and ask 'then what'? Also point him to Jane's book ;-). Also have a word with your local Pharmacists ......... gather as much info. to bang him over the head with!
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It really is time to Name and Shame these GPs that have NO understanding of how to prescribe for menopause ladies. They are not GOD nor do they seem to know much :-\ ... it makes me WILD beyond words and it is obvious that Dr Currie is not getting through to them!
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Maybe send this to Dr Currie so that she can respond .......... in the meantime write a letter and ask this particular GP to put down the facts about vaginal atrophy use as he sees it, i.e. for 12 months and ask 'then what'? Also point him to Jane's book ;-). Also have a word with your local Pharmacists ......... gather as much info. to bang him over the head with!
I was a firm but polite with this GP because I haven't met him before (so no face to face at all) but I was still assertive. At least I have a prescription for the next month so I can see whether it continues to work for me before requesting more. I can also get the book read. I saw 1 question today from a new user on FB who has been given Estriol cream but told that she absolutely cannot use it for more than 6 weeks!
I wonder how many practices Dr Currie has tried to get through to. Have some simply refused to accept it? Do the GP's think of it as non essential (so a potential to save money)? I pointed out to the GP that it would be better to continue with this than to have recurrent AB courses.
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Particularly as prescribing continual Anti-biotic therapy is putting the World at risk, surely he knows this? If not it needs pointing out! and guidelines are suggesting less prescriptions for ABs to be handed out!
Do NOT wait - because if the GP refuses what then :-\ - your vagina will be up the creek without!!! I would be getting an appt. with a Pharmacist to discuss as well as the Nurse Practitioner at our Surgery.
I can't find out exactly how Dr Currie intends to inform UK GPs ....... I have asked the question several times :-\
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Particularly as prescribing continual Anti-biotic therapy is putting the World at risk, surely he knows this? If not it needs pointing out! and guidelines are suggesting less prescriptions for ABs to be handed out!
Do NOT wait - because if the GP refuses what then :-\ - your vagina will be up the creek without!!! I would be getting an appt. with a Pharmacist to discuss as well as the Nurse Practitioner at our Surgery.
I can't find out exactly how Dr Currie intends to inform UK GPs ....... I have asked the question several times :-\
I have already talked to the pharmacist at the practice (when I went for my flu jab) but she was also insistent that it could only be used twice (or max 3 times) a week. I haven't tried the nurse yet. I will try to get an advance routine appt. but there have not been any on offer this week.
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Ask Pharmacists in your local Chemists ......... they should be independent of what the Surgery actually wants to pay out for!
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There is a good article in the November Good Housekeeping on VA. Dr Currie gets a mention. Interesting bit about how AB's that are routinely handed out like sweets by the GP's in the hopes of shutting us up and how they affect our menopausal bodies
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Hi Katejo, I've been using Vagifem for about 4/5 years. I use 2 a week and actually sometimes could do with using 3 because 2 just keeps the symptoms at bay...sometimes there's a little flare up and my bladder feels swollen. I've never heard about it being dangerous to use for more than a year? I think I'll be using VF for the rest of my life? I'm 64 now and couldn't function without it. 😬
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Ask Pharmacists in your local Chemists ......... they should be independent of what the Surgery actually wants to pay out for!
I will try to do so on my way to work today if I have time. I am back in the situation of maybe having a UTI but won't get the urine test result (from a test yesterday) before I am supposed to leave early on thursday. The previous test was inconclusive. Not sure whether to try and ask the practice to just give me a 3 day Trimethroprim to take with me as a back up or just to rely on an occasional dose of Nurofen until my test result is back next week. I am determined not to cancel this Italy trip (as I did last time). It is only 4 days long so back on Monday.
There are 3 possible causes 1. Side effects of Vagifem (last used yesterday) 2. Pre holiday stress 3. a UTI or a mixture of all 3.
A separate question: When I read up on vagifem, it said that most users don't feel any real benefit for several months. however i did get an immediate benefit during the first 2 weeks. I am not sure whether this has tailed off because I am not using it every day or whether it was just a placebo to start with.