Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: KAH on May 17, 2018, 06:53:46 AM
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Hi ladies,
Last Thursday it was like someone flicked a switch and I woke up feeling so absolutely awful. Terrible headache but worse still is the nausea, which I thought would pass when the headache went, it hasnt, if anything it's got worse!
I wake up and immediately feel so anxious and sick I have to run to the loo with diarohea (tmi, sorry!!). I have to go 2 or 3 times within the first hour of waking then that's usually it for the day. My anxiety settles but the nausea is constant. It feels exactly like when I was pregnant, even smells setting me off. I've not been sick but have had my head over the loo a couple of times this morning thinking I was going to be. I'm struggling to eat as I feel so sick all the time, so am going with little often but I'm even struggling with that. I've lost no end of weight just in this week which isn't good for me as I struggle to keep weight on.
I'm going to try to get an appt with my GP but as that in itself is an impossible task, I wondered if anyone has had the same and has any tips? I'll literally try anything!! Thanks in advance xx
Oh and also, probably not relevant but I woke on Tuesday with blood all over my pillow from a nosebleed I must have had in the night, never had one before in my life! Feel like I'm falling apart ☹️
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You should ask for an emergency appointment KAH they have to give you one if you explain your feeling so bad,it will at the least put your mind at rest it's not fair your suffering this the stress of worrying won't be helping.its probably a nasty bug there's a few around again but go get it checked it may even be migraine.good luck xx
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Hi nausea was my worst menopause symptom. It was horrendous but my GP wouldn't believe that it was caused by menopause! I felt sick constantly and couldn't eat. I took Cyclizine tablets which helped a bit.
HRT has got rid of the nausea and the other awful symptoms.
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Hi nausea was my worst menopause symptom. It was horrendous but my GP wouldn't believe that it was caused by menopause! I felt sick constantly and couldn't eat. I took Cyclizine tablets which helped a bit.
HRT has got rid of the nausea and the other awful symptoms.
Thank you ladies. Dotty were they prescribed by the doc or over the counter?
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Prescribed by doc but I think you can buy them over the counter.
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Nausea was awful for me in Peri and during a migraine dr prescribed anti-nausea meds. I carried on taking them on days where nausea would really affect my day and they worked brilliantly.
Edit: I was already on hrt but you n peri hormones fluctuate
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Yes, you can buy cyclizine over the counter, I never found it much help for my nausea, only HRT sorted mine.
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Don't you have a local NHS Walk in Centre you could go to? Often if they feel you need to see a Dr they are able to ring your surgery and get an emergency appointment for you.
When my anxiety is bad I often have to go to the loo 2-3 times in the morning and then ok rest of the day but that is also a symptom of IBS.
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Managed to get an appt with my GP later this afternoon. I've spoken to her before about how I think it's hormones affecting me & giving me so many random symptoms but she's quite dismissive and says until my periods stop (they're still fairly regular), she won't consider anything. Any advice?
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You can have hrt before your periods stop! You need a sequi hrt. Write everything down and insist on a trial of hrt x
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https://menopausedoctor.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Menopause-Doctor-Questionnaire-1-1.pdf
Fill in this questionnaire and take it with you .
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KAH, it is not usual to have loose bowels with a migraine. Migraines, depression, anxiety, nausea, morning sickness type symptoms and many other menopause symptoms are all caused by low oestrogen, that is the common denominator. Oestrogen acts like a control centre for so many vital bodily functions so when you become oestrogen deficient, all sorts of things start to go wrong and the only way to deal with it is to replace the lost oestrogen.
I have never been pregnant so I don't know what it feels like but looking back I do remember having a type of mild morning sickness when I was on Angeliq and not getting enough oestrogen. High doses of Oestrogel completed cured the problem.
Putting it in very basic terms, most peri and post menopausal women need a stable dose of oestrogen and sometimes a small amount of testosterone. Unfortunately progesterone very often comes along and spoils the party.
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As I feared, waste of bloody time!
She insists the nausea is a stomach bug and says all the other symptoms are probably part of my health anxiety rather than hormone related! It didn't help that I forgot my list!! I'll put below what's on my list of symptoms I think are hormonal and please be honest, does it sound like peri to you......
*Night sweats (started a couple of years ago, stopped after a year or so but recently started again)
*terrible headaches
*aches everywhere but especially legs and neck
*increased anxiety
*either not being able to sleep or sleeping for England!
*memory issues
*vaginal dryness
*itchy skin (only sometimes)
*horrendous nausea
*hair thinning
*facial hair
*acne on neck and in scalp
*nosebleeds (a new symptom started this week!)
There's probably more but as my brain no longer works properly, I can't think!
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Yes it does sound like peri
My Nan suffered nosebleeds during meno and I suffered nosebleeds during puberty ! X
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Yes those are all menopausal symptoms . Can you see a different GP?
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Yes those are all menopausal symptoms . Can you see a different GP?
I think my reputation isn't great in general to be honest. I've been such a pain with all my aches and pains over the last few years that they're absolutely sick of the sight of me, and I can't blame them! I think I'm going to just have to try to cope and stay away for as long as possible in the hope that eventually they start taking me serious again instead of putting everything down to my anxiety. Totally my own fault ☹️
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KAH - it is not your fault at all. You need to see a doctor who understands menopause. Unfortunately you sometimes have to fight for the correct treatment.
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KAH, there is no way you should have to put up with these symptoms. I don't know how you are placed financially but can you afford to seek the help of a private menopause specialist? This comes up on here time and time again and I find myself saying the same old thing, if you don't get any joy with your GP, take control of the situation yourself and see a private specialist, it is worth every penny.
Your are clearly menopausal and you need to get it treated as soon as possible and not have your time wasted by a GP who clearly doesn't know what they are doing. I know you shouldn't have to pay to see a menopause specialist but what else would you spend the money on that is more important that this?
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Would your GP consider the combined pill? When my nausea was intense (had for months and lost 2 stone as could only drink milk) my GP said that HRT would make it worse but I could have the pill, that made it worse for the first week (as adds more oestrogen) but I knew it was right as was making it worse (if that makes sense!) and then it all stopped after a week.
The pill works by suppressing your cycle and will calm a lot of the surging.
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Would your GP consider the combined pill? When my nausea was intense (had for months and lost 2 stone as could only drink milk) my GP said that HRT would make it worse but I could have the pill, that made it worse for the first week (as adds more oestrogen) but I knew it was right as was making it worse (if that makes sense!) and then it all stopped after a week.
The pill works by suppressing your cycle and will calm a lot of the surging.
She wouldn't even discuss it to be honest, I kept trying to explain why I thought it was hormone related but she kept saying she didn't think so!
I came away with citalapram for my anxiety so I guess she thinks everything's in my head created by the anxiety!
Mary G, I would give anything to see a private specialist but pretty sure we couldn't afford it. What kind of amount do they charge?
Can I just say thank you to everyone who has taken the time to reply, I honestly think I might have been carted off in a straight jacket if I couldn't come on here and see that I'm not alone!
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You could go back and ask for the pill just for contraception, or just buy it online. You just fill out an online questionnaire. It’s just to get you through the severe nausea and then you can look at other options as I remember how desperate I was just to stop the nausea.
Anti nausea tablets made mine worse as my hormones cause gastric migraine and the meds act on the brain and stirred things up more with dizziness. The antihistamines were the best for me but made me very drowsy and then more nauseous once they’d worn off.
At this extreme time the pill saved me. This was after waiting 6 months for an endoscopy as my docs also didn’t mention hormones! Once I realised and told them the pattern with my cycles though they said it was peri and high oestrogen. Maybe you could also mention to your doc that there’s something called morning sickness so maybe hormones could be to blame...
Prior to this I also was put on a blacklist and refused appointments as they said I was coming in too much?!!! I insisted and persisted as they work for us, we pay through our taxes and so you have a right to their service.