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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Mindfulmoomins on January 20, 2018, 02:54:42 PM

Title: John Lee’s book - what your dr may not tell you about menopause
Post by: Mindfulmoomins on January 20, 2018, 02:54:42 PM
Hi everyone,

My best friend has got me the above book and has been reading it herself.

It seems to talk about oestrogen dominance and progesterone being the answer.

Am I right that this a largely outdated theory? I really don't want to read it and get all confused or worried about something that is not relevant.

I'd like to be able to say why I haven't read it in a kind way if anyone has any suggestions. If on the other hand it's got a good evidence base then I am properly confused!

Thank you x
Title: Re: John Lee’s book - what your dr may not tell you about menopause
Post by: Dotty on January 20, 2018, 03:05:05 PM
Think his views aren't recognised here in UK.

Title: Re: John Lee’s book - what your dr may not tell you about menopause
Post by: racjen on January 20, 2018, 03:15:54 PM
I think this has largely been discredited - when you read about all the women on here who suffer really badly from progesterone intolerance it seems unlikely to be the answer we're all looking for. Certainly my specialist has not truck with it whatsoever.
Title: Re: John Lee’s book - what your dr may not tell you about menopause
Post by: Linsey44 on January 20, 2018, 07:32:18 PM
Im not sure of the answer but below is a link where oestrogen dominance was discussed on anither thread.



https://www.menopausematters.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,37013.msg593760.html#msg593760


Linsey x
Title: Re: John Lee’s book - what your dr may not tell you about menopause
Post by: Nellie Noo on January 21, 2018, 06:42:41 PM
My understanding is that, early in peri its the progesterone that starts depleting first,  causing the symtoms of oestrogen dominance . Then as time goes on, the oestrogen starts to lower causing more significant symtoms. I think more physical symtoms ... atropy, an increase in flushes , aches and pains and anxiety. But the progesterone cream has been discredited by prof studd.
Title: Re: John Lee’s book - what your dr may not tell you about menopause
Post by: dangermouse on January 21, 2018, 08:21:33 PM
I'm in the John Lee phase now with the low progesterone and surging oestrogen. I don't know what he wrote about post menopause though but I have heard that some women do well on progesterone for hot flushes then too.

They're all theories like progesterone intolerance, which become factual to those who experience them (and possibly unproven to those who don't!). I'm open to all theories if it leads to us trying something that may help when the standard ones aren't. There's still so much to learn about hormones and no doctors really have all the answers yet.