Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Nellie Noo on January 10, 2018, 02:55:52 PM
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Has taking hrt helped anyone to stop feeling sick ? . Had constant nausea for the last two weeks ... worse on waking. This has co insided with more painful aches and pains particulary the lower back . Really worried it could be something else (my mind working over time i hope ) and feeling really low at the moment . Tmi x
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One of my worst meno symptoms has been nausea and lack of appetite. HRT has stopped the worst of the nausea but not all of it at the moment.
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Thank you dotty . Its pretty awful (. I had terrible morning sickness when pregnant .. all day sickness really .) But this is horrible because ive got loads of other symtoms going on as well ...really fed up. !!!! Gave up on femseven sequi a couple of weeks ago because i suspect the progesterone part was giving me the worse diarrhea ...😕 but id only done a couple of months on it so i might give it another go to see if it helps with this awful sicky feeling x
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I was terribly sick in pregnancy too. My GP didn't think that nausea is a menopausal symptom but there are lots of women that suffer. My GP gave me cyclizine which does help.
Go to your GP to find another HRT.
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Well yes thats the problem .. i cant imagine my gp agreeing that nausea is anything to do with menopause . Do you take your cyclizine every day or just when you need to ? Really didnt want to throw any more medications into the picture but i cant carry on feeling like this 🙁 x
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I was prescribed it 3 times a day and I did take it 3 times a day but then I took it only when I needed it. Usually I needed it in the morning . I haven’t taken it for about a week now.
I had to have an endoscopy but it was clear.
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Hello Nellie Noo.
Yep, me too and I hate it Oddly I never had morning sickness with my pregnancies, infact I didn't have any hormonal problems at all back in the day but boy am I getting them now! I also worry that it's a sign of something else even though my rational brain tells me it's meno related. I'm finding it particularly frustrating because I now eat a whole food, plant based diet and I have some delicious recipes to try but I don't have the appetite or the motivation. I'm seeing my GP next week so I may ask for cyclizine or something similar.
You have my sympathies ladies, it is a horrible symptom. Incidentally the nausea often lifts in the late evening and I feel much better. A similar pattern occurred at the beginning of the menopause when I was having daily headaches and they stopped after six months, never to return. I just wish the nausea would take the hint and go the same way, we live in hope.
Wishing you well.
K.
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You can buy cyclizine over the counter in Boots without a prescription. I think they take it from the pharmacy.
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I'm probably not as well qualified as others to comment on this because I have never been pregnant so I don't know what morning sickness feels like but I can tell you that low oestrogen very definitely affected my digestive system in two ways, mild nausea, particularly on waking and on and off throughout the day and constipation.
I didn't realise what was going on at the time but looking back, I now realise that this was when I had a Mirena coil without adequate oestrogen and when I was on continuous Angeliq which again, was not providing enough oestrogen.
It's the same old story as far as I am concerned, low oestrogen is very bad news in every way.
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Hello again ladies.
Now I'm worried! I wonder if my GP will suggest an endoscopy?
Mary G - Your theory about low oestrogen makes sense in my case and despite two babies I never actually experienced what I believe to be morning sickness until the menopause.
Wishing you all well.
K.
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Kathleen - I saw 3 doctors and all of them insisted that nausea is not a symptom of menopause . I also had lack of appetite and feeling full after eating very little. I had tests for ovarian cancer and was convinced I had an ulcer...... no, all tests were clear xx
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Thank you ladies for your comments .. well if it carries on, i think another vist to the doctors is probably the way forward. Cant believe the impact fluctuating hormones can have. Really fed up with it all ! X :-\
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Nausea (and migraine) is a proven symptom when oestrogen is unstable, either surging high or plummeting low. This is why it can also happen at the beginning of pregnancy.
It apparently calms down when oestrogen finally falls to a low but stable level. HRT can exacerbate it in some women and calm it in others.
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Nellie Noo - did you have nausea when you were on hrt or has it started since you stopped?
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I have nausea constantly, every day. I initially thought it was because of my anxiety returning, but now I believe that both are being caused by the peri menopause. I started on Evorel Sequi patches about 3 weeks ago which has made the nausea worse, although my GP has said it should settle down after a while. I've tried anti emetic meds and they don't touch it, feeling sick all the time is debilitating.
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Dotty ... i stopped femseven sequi a couple of weeks ago because i felt absolutely dreadful on the progesterone part .. very low and stomach was very upset. About one week later the nausea started .. i frankly dont know whether i am coming or going. ☹️ I know i should have given it longer but couldnt stand the bad stomach any longer and convinced myself it was the hrt .
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Nellie Noo my nausea started before HRT so I know it's a meno symptom and not caused by hrt. It's continued even though I've been taking hrt but I was told that symptoms carry on until the oestrogen builds up.
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Thank you dotty ! your comment has convinced me to go back on the femseven and give it longer . Thanks x
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Nellie Noo - its so hard to know what is menopausal and what is side effects of the tablets.
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Couldnt agree more dotty ! X
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Hi Nellie Noo and Dotty
Do either of you get bad nausea when drinking alcohol? I've had nausea as a symptom of menopause and now as a side effect of HRT too. I'm just starting my second month on Evorel Sequi and obviously levels are still fluctuating.
Anyway I've never handled alcohol particularly well but noticed I was getting worse. Then earlier last year I had a terrible experience after a party night of drinking red wine- 5 glasses. I vomited the whole of the next day. It was truly bad and after that I completely cut out alcohol for 3 months.
Since then I have been very cautious. Last night I was eating dinner at friends and drank 2.5 Sols (4.5% alcohol). I had however eaten little during the day. This morning I was so nauseous I vomited violently about an hour ago. It's crazy! :o
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How awful for you !! Ive never been able to tolerate alcohal very well ..... in the past, in my 20s and 30s 40s was ok on a couple of glasses of wine etc but anything more and like you .. very sick. Now in my 50s .. cant handle it at all ! Not enjoyable .. the taste is weird and i feel really sick so just not worth it ! I do suffer from silent reflux so that probably plays a part as well as the hormones x
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Hi I don't drink alcohol very often .
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Has taking hrt helped anyone to stop feeling sick ? . Had constant nausea for the last two weeks ... worse on waking. This has co insided with more painful aches and pains particulary the lower back . Really worried it could be something else (my mind working over time i hope ) and feeling really low at the moment . Tmi x
I had mild nausea in the mornings during peri. It eventually stopped on its own but I am sure that they were linked. i haven't tried HRT so can't comment on that. i drink very little because of possible interaction with other medication. Just an occasional social glass of wine.
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Hereandthere - I think many of us have found our tolerance to alchohol and the way we metabolise it has changed as we have got older and not necessarily on account of HRT. For me it wasnt so much nausea as migraines - even after only two glasses - if I drank it later in the evening. I first noticed it even when still having regular periods - probaby late reproductive stage. When I started HRT it got worse but I think it would be anyway at my age - now in 60's. I haven't been able to drink that much wine like you mention, since my early 30's!! Five glasses is a lot and especially if not small glasses!
Now I have worked out how much alcohol and when I can drink it without feeling ill/getting a migraine. I only drink it early in the evening (or earlier in the day eg over Christmas!) and with food, and drink at least a large glass of water for every glass of wine and in between the first and second glass for example. Probably would have no more than eg a G & T before the meal and a couple of glasses with food and finishing no later than 9 pm. Always loads of water before bed. ie I go to bed after all the effects have worn off (very boring I know - but the only way I can still have a little drink or two now and again). I limit it mostly to weekends Fri - Sun ( except I'm doing dry Jan - even more boring!).
I also used to feel worse with alcohol when on the prog part of HRT ( even though I don't take any HRT orally) and on the prog withdrawal weekend.
I would say to anyone who would like to enjoy a little tipple - no need necessarily to give it up completely but try doing what I do.... and see if you feel OK?
Hurdity x
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Thanks for all the support guys. It turned out this last time I actually had a bug- probably food poisoning. So it wasn't the two beers, which is a relief.
Still I pretty much agree that two is my new midlife limit. One is better. Five has never been my workable limit ever, I'd say it was 3 to 4.
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Bugs and food poisoning are totally different. It still could have been beer, sometimes if the cellar isn't kept clean etc. beer can go 'off'
Better now?
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Sorry just realized I didn't see this post. I did get better thanks for asking :)
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What did you alter in your diet/medication regime?
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I've been prone to experiencing nausea my whole life, so probably surprisingly it's also become an issue in menopause and now HRT. I can definitely not drink red wine anymore. This morning I am sipping rooibos tea and will then try a banana. I feel like my nausea issues are in the conti, whereas I expected them on the 50 part of my Evorel cycle.