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Menopause Discussion => Personal Experiences => Topic started by: Kathleen on December 06, 2017, 09:43:49 AM
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Hello ladies.
I am having a horrible blip atm and I am experiencing internal shaking and low mood. I've just realised that I've started huffing and puffing again which I last did about a year ago when my morning anxiety and flushes were really bad. I wanted to mention it because at that time we had a builder in and he said his wife was going through the menopause and was doing the same thing. Could this be another symptom of fluctuating hormones? Perhaps it's too much adrenaline due to back of oestrogen? I thought I would ask if any of you ladies have experienced something similar and if you found anything that helps to alleviate it?
Take care all.
K.
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Hi Kathleen
Sorry you are having a blip atm.
Huffing and puffing is one of the few symptoms I haven't had and I've had most of them :lol: I'm sure someone will be along to offer some advice about that.
HRT helped me with the internal shaking and low mood in fact thinking about I cann't rember the last time I had the internal shaking I can feel my mood lowering when using progesterone but have just switched to Provera and it doesn't seem to lower my mood as much as Utrogestan did but it's still early days.( fingers crossed)
Sending good wishes
Lanzalover x
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I used to feel very bloated prior to each period: what you describe can also be a side effect of stress, I notice Mum does this when she's upset.
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Hello ladies.
Thank you all for responding, your comments help so much and I am very grateful.
Sparkle - My huffing and puffing occurs mainly in the morning when my anxiety is at it's worst so I think you are right about it being a response to that. That's the thing about the meno, one thing leads to another and it can be difficult to unravel it all.
Thanks again everyone and wishing you all well.
K.
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Kathleen, it sounds like hyperventilation, which results from stress. You could Google the condition, as I'm sure that way you will find a more lucid explanation than I can give, but basically you end up with not enough carbon dioxide in your system (we do need the right balance). There's a trick you can do with a large paper bag, if you can find such a thing. Scrunch up the top of the bag and exhale into it. Then breath in the 'stale' air from the bag. Do this a few times and it should help.
JP x
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Hello Joaniepat and sparkle.
Thank you ladies for your comments. I'm going to try the breathing technique but if I can't find a bag I'll improvise with something.
I agree about the anxiety symptoms becoming a vicious circle and a very difficult one to break.
Take care ladies.
K.
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Hi Kathleen
Sorry to read you are going through this at the moment.
I've been using HRT for a couple of years, seemed to be okay for a while, my anxiety got so much better. Over the last month or so my mood has been low and find it hard to be happy again, just feel sadness over me all the time. I've moved to the coast from London recently, haven't settled that well. My husband loves it here.
Hope you are better soon
xx
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It's funny I have said on a couple of posts I am feeling depressed and no one even bothers answers me.
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It's funny I have said on a couple of posts I am feeling depressed and no one even bothers answers me.
Sorry you're feeling like your anxiety is returning vickypk. I see you've recently moved area, do you have time to socialize (ie are you working part time or retired) Meeting new people and broadening your horizons may help? i know it can be difficult when you move to feel settled, it takes time.
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Thanks you reply losttheplot
I'm not sure what's going on, just feel so sad all the time since I've moved. I have retired and got to make new friends. Just had a busy life in London seeing friends every day. Don't know if the HRT i'm using is losing effect or it is the change of location.
Vicky xx
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Thanks Sparkle.
My friends are planning to visit soon and stay here for weekend visits as I'm close to the beach now. So hopefully this sadness will go away. I just cry every day and wonder why I ever moved. I know it's a better life here for us away from the noise and pollution. So isolating though! Thanks again xx
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Thanks Sparkle.
I think it is confidence, going to new groups and meeting people I find a bit daunting. I didn't realise I would miss London and my old life this much.
I run and do yoga every morning on the beach, my fitness is going well. It is all on my own so I am bound to miss my friends. There are lots of yoga classes and running clubs around here, maybe it is the confidence thing. It is such a lovely place to live on the south coast and lots more to do than in London, why am I feeling as though I am grieving. Just have to try to snap out of it and hope this sadness goes away.
Thank you for taking the time to reply to me and hope you are well.
xx
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Hi. People are doing beach cleaning here all the time, it's great That's something I could do Think I'll start doing that. I'm just on the coast a few miles along from Bournemouth. I've got to laugh I reckon the builders we have in are fed up with me, I chat with them all the time!! Thanks for your time you have helped me. This menopause thing ain't easy xx
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Thanks Sparkle. Yes having everything done in the house, it all needs modernising, worth it when it is done. Will let you know how I get on and thank you for taking the time to talk. Keep in touch xxx
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Hello ladies.
I am having a horrible blip atm and I am experiencing internal shaking and low mood. I've just realised that I've started huffing and puffing again which I last did about a year ago when my morning anxiety and flushes were really bad. I wanted to mention it because at that time we had a builder in and he said his wife was going through the menopause and was doing the same thing. Could this be another symptom of fluctuating hormones? Perhaps it's too much adrenaline due to back of oestrogen? I thought I would ask if any of you ladies have experienced something similar and if you found anything that helps to alleviate it?
Take care all.
K.
Kathleen - sorry to hear about your shaking and low mood. I don't really understand what you mean by "huffing and puffing". There must be another meaning of it because the only meaning I know of this is when you try to do something eg carry something heavy up the stairs or exert yourself and make grunting noises with the effort of it! ie making a loud fuss almost deliberately on exertion, or loud sighing etc when you get frustrated at something - rather than something that just happens to you. Please can you explain what you mean?
I feel frustrated on your behalf because as you are well post-menopause your hormones will be stable so the right type and dose of HRT should keep you on an even keel and prevent low mood ( if there is no other reason medical or otherwise for you to feel like this). If you are getting shaking it sounds like something metabolic - blood sugar or thyroid - maybe - I presume you've had these measured, blood tests etc? What is your diet like - do you eat a lot of sugar or juicy drinks, refined carbs? (I'm sure you don't but just asking!).
Hurdity x
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Oh how I hate this symptom, it's a constant battle to stop myself, I feel as if I just can't fill my lungs properly, and I know it's in my head because when I'm busy at work or otherwise occupied I don't do it, but the second I think about it then it starts, then I'm awake half the night with pain from trapped wind due to all the air gulping, can't win :(, I do find when I'm "really" ill 🤒 all my meno symptoms seem to go, as if my body and brain can only concentrate on one thing, it's so strange. I can't have hrt so I've just got to plough through it :'( xx
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Hello ladies.
I've just returned to this thread and wanted to thank you for your comments.
Hurdity - Yep, frustration is the word lol. I think my main problem is that none of the HRTs I have tried have succeeded in reducing my flushing so presumably the dose was never really high enough. I began HRT when I was three years post meno and the maximum oestrogen I used was 50mcg via a patch but when I tried 75mcg I had problematic bleeding. I am now taking Tibolone which I understand is low dose anyway. I feel stuck atm and will see my GP in the new year and hope he has some ideas!
joyce21 - I agree that being absorbed with something helps. I am also like this with the quivery, internal shaking in that I can distract myself for a while but that's hard to do 24/7. I'm sorry that you can't take HRT but it doesn't always cure everything anyway as you can see from the many posts on this forum including my comments above lol!
Thanks again ladies and take care.
K.
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Hi Kathleen,
I also recognise the huffing and puffing and at the moment I'm on top of it. I joined https://www.walkingforhealth.org.uk/ and can find walks wherever we go. I started to do the couch to 5k nhs running programme and I take 5HTP supplements. I've noticed in the winter months I need to take more care of myself, lack of sun definitely makes a difference. My husband notices small changes before I do and lets me know so I can nip it in the bud. We go out somewhere nice together, do something out of the normal routine and have some fun. We've had the shortest day so Spring's on its way :)
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Hi vickypk. I know we have been talking on another thread you have re: your GP issues but wanted to add to this one. I also retired to somewhere where I knew absolutely no one. I love crafts and went in to our local shop and asked if there was a group of ladies meeting up each week. There wasn't but the owner said that if I wanted to I could start a group up and we could use the upstairs in the shop each week. She started a list and when it got to four we began and we know have fourteen of us and it is great, we all do different things, knitting, card making, sewing, etc. etc and it is so nice. We are all of an age and so have a moan when we are down but usually feel a lot better for having gone and been with others once a week. From this some of us go to the cinema when there is a good film on or to other things. I also joined the W.I and again this has been great. You might find there is more than one of these. You do have to make an effort but it is worth it, I was exactly like you when we moved here six years ago but feel more settled now so be brave and give it a go.
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Thank you sparkle
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I can totally sympathise as anxiety can do terrible things to your body. I got the simple advice to ' breath in pink, then breath out the black'. When I'm in a bad place I do this a good half a dozen times - in lovely candy floss pink then out all the black bad stuff. It is a good crutch when I feel out of control. Vicki - I really sympathise with you feeling low after moving. We moved 13 years ago and are not happy where we are; my husband in particular, but can't sell the house so are stuck. Best thing I did recently is joined acommunity choir. I can't sing very well but it is a lovely distracting thing to do and the people there are so lovely. I was very nervous for the first one but really look forward to it now. I think there is a national ' rock choir' who are in most towns which was featured on Radio 2 .