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Title: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 09, 2017, 09:06:50 AM
Have been massively struggling.....yesterday and today, just been crying  :'( :'( :'(

1. Hot flushes coming by nearly hourly. It starts at the pit of my stomach, spreads to my chest, neck face and head, finally breaking in to sweat. Face red as a lobster.
2. Heart palpitations, could hear my heart pounding
3. Night sweats, can't get a proper sleep
4. Nauseous, bloating, digestive issues
5. Loss of appetite, turn off by food.
6. Vagina dryness....have resolved this with constant application of moisturiser
7. Skin so dry, it's itchy, painful and scaling....using cream
8. Whenever I sweat, there are rashes
9. Joints aches and pains
10. Low moods / irritated, cranky, sad, crying, scared

Latest additions....started 3 weeks ago, which I have come to a wits end.....

10. Headaches everyday
11. Feeling of dizziness, floating sensation, like off balance, making my nausea worse
12. Anxiety all time high

When all these started, I have seen the dr and I have taken all the advise.....am exercising, walking everyday, doing yoga, going for therapy, stop taking coffee, look after my diet....still, am back to square one!!!!
 
Everyday, I am feeling nauseous, dizzy, headache, hot flushes and finally, anxiety..... can't function normally at all. I am so very sad and miserable, just crying at everything!!

Are these symptoms normal or am I the only one??

I really don't know what to do......appreciate if anyone could advise.

Thanks for listening. Bj  :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Annie0710 on November 09, 2017, 09:24:13 AM
Hi and welcome

Yes your symptoms are classic menopause symptoms

It's up to you where you go from here, hrt would almost definitely eradicate your physical symptoms x
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 09, 2017, 09:36:28 AM
Thank you Annie0710 for your reply.

My apologies, I forgot to mention that I am a Breast cancer survivor and my oncologist will not put me on HRT. In fact, I am told that I should not take an array of medication or supplements because of containing of oestrogen.
Bottom line is that i can't take anything and what else Can I do?? Just can't cope like this daily..... :'( :'( :'(
Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Yammy1 on November 09, 2017, 10:11:17 AM
Hi bj, I really feel for you. I have every symptom you listed and add chest pain/discomfort. my logical head says its caused by my hiatus hernia but sadly my logical head is hard to find these days.  I tried hrt a few times but with no success. I am now strongly thinking of taking antidepressants just to give my mind and body a rest. I had hysterectomy five years ago and an finding the past year really difficult.  Anxiety is the pits and the dizziness is the worst. Maybe you could take  mild ad just to get you through and give yourself a well deserved rest
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Samade on November 09, 2017, 10:44:16 AM
 :hug:
It is so difficult when it seems there are no ways to alleviate how you feel.
 At first I was point blank refused hrt due to a oestrogen related DVT, I just couldn't imagine how I could get through this and worried that it would never end. Initially I was put on an AD and although slow to work did take the edge off the doom and despair.
I was lucky eventually my consultant agreed to very low dose hrt but the AD did help me to a place where I could function.
Hope your GP\consultant can help you handle this and we are all here to empathise and reassure
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 09, 2017, 10:46:31 AM
Hello Yammy1....oh dear..... I too feel for you. Missed that on the list....I too have chest pain / tightness and had a CT scan done to chest and heart and All was found alright. The pain and tightness come from my mastectomy area....had a single mastectomy on my left side.
My dr prescribed Alpralozam which I just started 2 days ago, twice a day and was told that to give at least 2 weeks to see the benefits. Otherwise, he will put me on Venlafaxine.
Anxiety is really horrendous and having dizziness, headaches and nausea on top on it ......just can't cope!!
Are you experiencing dizziness daily? What do you do?
Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: dahliagirl on November 09, 2017, 10:52:28 AM
Hi - you seem to be doing everything you can.  All you can do is look after the rest of your body and make sure it is working as well as it can.

Do you have enough vitamin D ?  This seems to be something that goes awry in menopause and is worth supplementing (you may need K2 and some magnesium with it).  Levels of around 100 are good. Omega 3s are good too.

For the skin, my husband was prescribed Dermol for deep skin dryness that was not mending well by the dermotologist.  It is £12 from the chemist.  It is a cream that you use for washing (you will need a mat in the shower  :o ) which also helps stop infections - it is used for eczema a lot.  I also use it for my nether regions when I have thrush-like symptoms  ;)

I had night sweats for about 10 - 15 years when I was on the pill (don't ask why I put up with it - it was not until I came off it that I realised it was the cause  ::) ) which stepped up many notches when I got menopausal at 45.  My tips are to: Keep the room and bed a comfortable even temperature (not too hot and not too cold); Keep a glass of water by the bed to replace fluids and help cooling Wear absorbent cotton nightwear, preferably sleeveless so you can stick the appropriate bits out of the bed; change nightwear in the night if necessary - sleeping on a towel can help.  Lots of Laundry  :-X

I would say that it is also a mistake to restrict fluids in the hope of not waking up to go to the loo.  Drink plenty water during the daytime.  This will help get your bladder used to being stretched and urine will be less strong and less irritating.  You are more likely to wake up overheated if you have not drunk enough, as you cannot sweat enough to cool.

Hope this helps.   :foryou:
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 09, 2017, 10:56:47 AM
Thank you, Samade for your kind reply.
My oncologist definitely point blank told me a very firm NO many a times.....even for herbal supplements!!  :'(
Even tried talking to my gynaecologist and he too said it's not advisable!
That's why, I am doing yoga, walking, therapy.....etc, etc,
Lately, when the headaches, dizziness and nausea started, I just don't know how to go about handling my life. I am so exhausted.....feel unwell, can't work, can't even think straight.....
Are these symptoms normal?? Or it's just me??
Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Annie0710 on November 09, 2017, 11:06:43 AM
Oh you poor thing.  I find it so sad when women have fought and beat cancer only to then find out they can't get relief for menopause symptoms.  I'm guessing then your cancer was hormone driven ?

I really don't have any advice, I've heard some anti depressants can help with flushes etc - it's so sad there's not been anything made to help women in your situation

Big hugs and I'm not going to moan about my meno anymore (I hope)

Xxxx
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 09, 2017, 11:18:20 AM
Thanks a lot dahliagirl for your kind advise and flowers.

Dr just put me on Vitamin D3 and C. Will look in to K2, magnesium and Omega 3....thanks!!

Oh gosh......okay I won't ask why you put up the night sweats that long  :-X
Yes, am doing all you mentioned to handle my night sweats. Am drinking loads of water throughout the day and obviously, the pee breaks are very often!
Currently, using Sebamed for shower, menopausal feminine wash and moisturiser, which does help!

When all my symptoms started, I have been trying my best and so far been handling myself pretty ok.
My meltdown started when my hot flushes are coming by the hour, am nauseous, so bloated....final straw is having headaches, dizzy and anxiety over the roof. After 3 weeks, I just broke down....I really don't know how to go on like this....

Dont even know if that headaches, dizziness, nausea, anxiety are part of menopause..... :'(

Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 09, 2017, 11:27:35 AM
Yes Annie, my Breast cancer was hormone driven.
Am so daft..... when I was diagnosed, I had a single mastectomy, then went through chemotherapy and now on Tamoxifen.....went through with all the side effects and never for a moment expected to handle further side effects from perimenopause.
I am lucky to be alive and to be able to count my blessings but currently, I feel overwhelmed and lost my coping mechanism  :'( :'( :'(

Ohhhhh.....please don't say that Annie......go ahead......moan, grumble as much ....only now I realise how very bad ...horrible it is going through menopause

Big hugs back.....take care. Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Kate on November 09, 2017, 11:27:58 AM
I have developed migraines,dizziness,nausea and anxiety too along with many other symptoms. I think it is all menopause related. I'm taking vitamin d, magnesium, vitamin b complex and omega 3 and I do think they help a bit. I hope you find some relief soon.
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 09, 2017, 11:37:05 AM
Thank you Kate for your reply. Ahhhhhh..... you just made me feel that I am not alone......got so worried and scared when my headaches, dizziness and nausea started.....thought that it may be something else!!! Sorry that you are on the same boat.

Do you have these symptoms daily?
Other than taking vitamins, how do you cope?

Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Annie0710 on November 09, 2017, 11:56:47 AM
You are inspirational

Nausea and headaches and dizziness were horrendous for me in peri, and if it makes you feel a little better, I was already on hrt for 13 years and still suffered, but now Post meno these symptoms come and go and I can go weeks without any of them xx
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Kate on November 09, 2017, 12:02:59 PM
Yes I've had these symptoms daily for probably more than five years but I had no idea it was the menopause. I thought I'd lost my mind and probably those around me did too.

I was given one antidepressant after another but I get awful side effects from them especially on my bowel and bladder.

I'm now in the process of trying hrt but as with all medication I get lots of side effects and am struggling to find a progesterone I can use. I'm so sorry that you aren't even able to try it.

I have felt very out of control during this time and am now trying to take back some of that control by:

educating myself (and my husband😬) using this site
eating healthily
taking the supplements
getting some fresh air and exercise when I can. Thats so difficult because of the anxiety but it definitely helps
Therapy to try and deal with it all

I'm sure other ladies will have far more experience than me. Hopefully they will have other suggestions we can try. I have only posted a couple of times so not really got to grips with it all yet. I've mostly been reading through all the posts and other info.
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Abba Fan on November 09, 2017, 12:07:48 PM
Please ask your GP for Prochloperazine also known as Stemetil, it will help your nausea, panic and dizziness. I wouldn't advise taking Alprazolam for very long as it's very addictive and then it's very hard to withdraw from because of the short half life.

Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Yammy1 on November 09, 2017, 12:38:11 PM
 I am sitting here in sheer panic, I've just come back from collecting my three year old grandson from preschool and while I was walking home I got really bad stabbing pain in my left arm, not consistant and its gone now but I really panicked and m back started to pain me too, I probably tensed up too mush. I have takin an energency pill(Xanax) and am waiting for this to kick in. I really don't know how much more of the I can take :'( :'(. Why do I obsess about my heart
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Samade on November 09, 2017, 12:49:31 PM
definitely be careful of some of the herbal remedies(not vitamins and minerals) so many have oestrogenic elements to them.  There is so little to help people affected by oestrogens and there is a lot of people affected by them.
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: HopeAlone on November 09, 2017, 01:14:50 PM
Oh bj I'm not in a position to offer any advice just to let you know you are not alone going through all this. My main symptom is the anxiety and panic some days are worse than others but I'm still not stable enough to return to work yet. I had it really severely and constantly 2 years ago and I was put on venlafaxine and it has helped a lot I just need to sort the rest of me out now. Just a suggestion but have you tried progressive muscle relaxation ? It was one is the things that helped me to relax
Take care x
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Snoooze on November 09, 2017, 01:17:08 PM
I am sitting here in sheer panic, I've just come back from collecting my three year old grandson from preschool and while I was walking home I got really bad stabbing pain in my left arm, not consistant and its gone now but I really panicked and m back started to pain me too, I probably tensed up too mush. I have takin an energency pill(Xanax) and am waiting for this to kick in. I really don't know how much more of the I can take :'( :'(. Why do I obsess about my heart

Try not to worry Yammy. I get that also. But, I do lean my left arm a lot on the arm of the sofa while I'm on my laptop. Last week I had a pain down my left arm but when I rubbbed the area, it hurt so I assumed it was muscular. I understand you worry about yor heart as I do too so if I get a pain when walking like I did last week, it does panic me but I just tell myself to ignore it and think back to how many years I've had the pain and nothing untoward has happened x
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Yammy1 on November 09, 2017, 01:31:28 PM
Thank you snooze, pill has taken the edge off so a bit calmer. I am defineatly going to visit doc and go down the ad route, I mean why suffer like this when there is help, I know she doesn't like to prescribe them but it's my life and my body so I will insist. If. Broke m leg she would give me a crutch, I have diabetes and she prescribes medication so why not help my mind o get through this awful time. I just want to function without feeling so anxious all the time
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: GypsyRoseLee on November 09, 2017, 01:41:18 PM
Hi Yammy

Definitely give ADs a whirl. I'm lucky in that I'm safe to take a high dose of oestrogen, and I don't have either BAC1 or 2 indicators for breast cancer. It was only when I upped my oestrogen dose to 4 pumps and added in a low dose of sertraline that I suddenly started to feel a whole lot better. The sertraline was only meant to tide me over until the stronger HRT kicked in, but I started feeling so well and sleeping so brilliantly that I have kept taking it. It's been just over a year now and I feel better than I have in years.
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 09, 2017, 01:41:59 PM
Annie....thank you for letting me know that you too went through the headaches, dizziness and nausea....now I know that I am not going nutty.

Thank you for your kind compliment  :foryou:

Take care, Annie

Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Yammy1 on November 09, 2017, 01:49:32 PM
Thank you grl, can I ask how long it took for ads to work for you and did you have lots of side effects and if so how long did they last. I tried an ad a few years, the name escapes me but I had to stop due to severe anxiety and night terrors
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 09, 2017, 01:55:45 PM
Dear Kate, so sorry to hear that you have been suffering for 5 years......ohhhh dear.....it must have been such a difficult time for you. I am just going through these this year and am already at wits end!
Am also doing therapy, walking, yoga, meditation, trying all that I can but at the end of the day, when I am dizzy and nauseous, all I want to do is just relax in bed....
When the anxiety hits......so tough. Yesterday, when I woke up, I just sat there and wailed like a baby.... cried like it was the end of the world! Thank goodness, my hubs was understand and just consoled me. Today, another crying episode...... :'( :'( :'(
Wishing you well.....hope that we will get better. Hugs, Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 09, 2017, 02:13:42 PM
Thank you ABBA Fan for your kind advise.

7 months ago plus 2 more times after a space of 2plus months, I had a vertigo attack and was diagnosed with BPPV. At each of the attack, I was given Stemetil and Betaserc. The last attack, the ENT Dr. did the Epley's manoeuvre twice, which helped!

This dizziness I am experiencing is different.....it's like I am floating, off balance, not spinning, a weird feeling in my head accompanied by headaches. Never had this in my life.

Yes, I understand about Alpralozam and that's the main reason, i was scared to take any until now. My gp had a long talk with me and told me to take for at least 2 weeks as to help me handle the symptoms and anxiety.

Take care, Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 09, 2017, 02:18:36 PM
Hiya Yammy1, hope that you are calmer now. Don't worry, this happens to me too.....get in to panic and the mind strays to all sorts of worry.
Do let us know if you decide to take AD and how you get on.

Take good care and hugs, Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 09, 2017, 02:22:44 PM
Hiya Samade,
Am too frightened to try any herbal supplements. As it is, even medicines for menopausal help is off limits to me  :'(
Wished there is something out there that could help people in our position. It is crazy that we are expected to live like this.....so debilitating  :'(
Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Samade on November 09, 2017, 02:27:12 PM
yes don't take any supplements you just can't be sure what are in them!

It is so frustrating but you are not alone  :hug:
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 09, 2017, 02:31:26 PM
Hello HopeAlone,
Thank you for your kind reply.
Could you kindly let me know what medication is for progressive muscle relaxer?
What do you take to help you with your anxiety and panic?
I found that my anxiety is getting progressively worse....constantly feeling dread, fear and sad
Hugs and take care, Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 09, 2017, 02:33:43 PM
Hiya GypsyRoseLee,

If you don't mind, what ADs are you taking? Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 09, 2017, 02:36:36 PM
Hiya HopeAlone,
Sorry, I missed out asking you..... how are you doing on Venlafaxine? Are there any side effects? How long have you taken them and what is the daily dosage?
My dr said that he would like to put me on Venlafaxine.....
Appreciate your feedbacks. Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 09, 2017, 02:39:31 PM
Thanks a lot Samade..... :thankyou:
Wishing you well....keep in touch. Take care, Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: GypsyRoseLee on November 09, 2017, 03:12:32 PM
Hi BJ. I take sertraline  :)
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Yammy1 on November 09, 2017, 03:48:34 PM
Hi gypsyroselee, how soon did sertraline to start working and did you have many side effects. And just wondering if you can drink alcohol while on it, I like a couple of drinks weekends
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: [email protected] on November 09, 2017, 07:20:35 PM
Hi bj you are not alone. Everyone of those menopause you have listed I have got,it's not nice at all and can be very scary. And thoughts of how you going to get through a day never mind weeks. I don't take anything just trying to get through it. Seems to me it comes in blocks of months of feeling like this then it will subside for a few weeks then bam it's back. Sending you a big hug love catkins X hope it helps to know your not alone 😘
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: CLKD on November 09, 2017, 07:39:54 PM
 :hug:
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 10, 2017, 09:16:56 AM
Many thanks GypsyRoseLee .....did you encounter any side effects when you first took Sertraline?
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 10, 2017, 09:18:00 AM
Hello CLKD....Many thanks for the hugs. Hope that you are keeping well and All is good.
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Hurdity on November 10, 2017, 09:19:58 AM
Hi Bj118

Sorry to hear about your menopausal symptoms and breast cancer  history meaning you cannot take HRT.

You might like to see this recent paper which lists all the alternative treatments and the evidence for their efficacy:
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2053369117711646?hootPostID=6690d93930a10b86869c48433ab506e7

As has been mentioned, there are various drugs including anti-depressants which can be effective for women in your position and the different types and dosages are discussed here in the paper, with specific reference to breast cancer.

Hope this helps :)

Hurdity x

Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 10, 2017, 09:27:49 AM
Hello Catkins.......thank you so much for assuring me ......goodness gracious, you are also going through what I am experiencing...... YESSSSS.....it's horrible and very scary. Sometimes, I think I am going mental....   :'( :'( :'(
I do feel so ignorant or stupid because I don't have a mother, grandmother, sister or aunt to ask...... didn't even realise that I was going through perimenopause.......thought I was not well all the time!!!! :-\ :-\ :'( :'( :-\ :'(
Catkins, you don't take anything......how to you cope daily??? Are there alternatives that could help??
Big hugs back. Bj xxx
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 10, 2017, 09:38:29 AM
Helloooooo Hurdity,

How are you? Hope that you are well and All is fine.

Reading your first sentence made me teary......thanks for reaching out.

Have tried to open the attached link many times but it's just don't load..... could you kindly resend.... sorry for the trouble.

I really need to find solutions.....can't be living like this daily  :'( :'(

Bj xxx
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 10, 2017, 10:24:37 AM
Hiya Hurdity,

Just to let you know that I could open the attachment....Many thanks....reading it.

Bj xxx
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: [email protected] on November 10, 2017, 04:34:05 PM
Hi bj no I don't take anything,nervous about taking things as some ladies say they just ha e to go through it when they stop. I am post menopause so all my symtoms are happening now. Didn't have anything peri, but all the same symtoms. So hopefully you may not suffer post not really sure how it all works. But take care there are lots of us like this which makes it easier. Brilliant site this with all the wonderful ladies offering advise so your not alone lbig hug catkins xx
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 11, 2017, 10:22:38 AM
Hello Ladies,

Anyone has any idea on how long All these side effects going to be?
Does it ever end? Or even get better?
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Annie0710 on November 11, 2017, 10:29:14 AM
ID say it's got to get easier the more past meno you get as surely your body would get accustomed to the lack of hormones.  Not saying ladies without hrt will feel great (not saying that FOR the hrt ladies either !) but surely things will calm and settle.  Hrt wasn't helping me in peri but now post there is definitely an improvement x
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 11, 2017, 03:57:12 PM
Hiya Annie0710,

Many thanks for your assurance.....
Just can't imagine going through all these daily.....to be honest, it's driving me crazy!!! There are ladies here who have put up with all these for years.....really take my hats off to these ladies....

Am sad, miserable and worse of all, constant anxiety.......it's exhausting putting up with one thing after another.... :'( :'( :'(

Have a good weekend. Take care, Annie, Bj




Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Annie0710 on November 11, 2017, 05:22:49 PM
Have you tried ADs or whatever for your anxiety? I think sometimes if you feel better one way it can make other symptoms more bearable

Hope you manage to enjoy your weekend xx
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 12, 2017, 02:23:25 PM
Hello Annie,

Thank you for taking your time to chat with me. I feel so alone going through all these....

Yes, my dr has put me on Alpralozam and she said to give it one or two weeks. If I still find it difficult to handle my emotions, Venlafaxine was suggested to me. Have no idea if this is alright!

Hope that you are having a good weekend.

Take care, Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Annie0710 on November 12, 2017, 03:01:23 PM
Bj I think you might feel rough in the early weeks of ADs, but don't give up on them, be kind to yourself and hopefully you'll then feel the benefits xx
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Hurdity on November 12, 2017, 05:10:35 PM
Hi again Bj118

I haven't heard of that one (Alpralozam) but I've just had a look and it is one of the benzos which I understand can be addictive,  if used all the time long term - but maybe you've been given it for a short time? I don't really know anything about these although I do know several women who have had problems withdrawing from benzos in menopause.

If you want to take something for hot flushes and sweats too (as well as menopausal anxiety), I would have thought ideally you want to take one recommended for women who have had breast cancer, so if one tablet will do that then all the better?  Venlafaxine was mentioned in the paper I linked to earlier in this thread.

Here is the relevant extract from that paper:

Since paroxetine is the SSRI with the best evidence for efficacy effective at 10 mg daily, it is the SSRI of choice for patients not taking tamoxifen and the more usual 20 mg dose chosen if an antidepressant effect is also required.

Venlafaxine is the preferred treatment for breast cancer survivors taking tamoxifen, and at 75 mg, there is significant reduction in hot flushes with concomitant improvement in fatigue, mental health and sleep disturbance.

I hope this helps and not wanting to cause you any upset by suggesting something other than your doctor has recommended ...

Hurdity x
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 13, 2017, 01:40:42 PM
Hello Hurdity,

Many thanks for your kind reply. Of course not.....am not upset at all....in fact, I really appreciate that you took your time to share your opinions and links, that I have found most helpful.

Actually, my dr put me on Alpralozam for 2 weeks because she said that firstly, this is to settle my high anxiety which could also be causing other issues like lack of sleep, heart palpitations, my emotional state, etc. After which, she suggested that I should take Venlafaxine. Have a follow up appointment by next week.

On a daily basis, am still struggling with all the symptoms. My latest addition of headaches, nausea, dizziness/floating are persistent.....hot flushes are not giving me a break at all.

You must have heard this a zillion times......am struggling to cope and am such a miserable cow!

Thank you once again,

Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: [email protected] on November 13, 2017, 10:21:35 PM
Yes bj I can sympaths with you mine are headache, Lightheadeness the off balance feeling and nausea. It's just so hard to work with all this going on. Hopefuly it will soon subside take care lv catkins  ::)
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 14, 2017, 03:29:40 PM
Hiya Catkins,
Reading your message makes me feel sad that you are also going through the same symptoms as mine.  :'(
I too really sympathise with you.....
You are absolutely correct.....it's really hard to work with all these going on.  :-\
You are strong.....you have put up with all the side effects for so many years without even taking any medications. Here I am struggling with these plus my anxiety is over the roof......
Thanks for your message.....
Take care, Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 15, 2017, 10:24:04 AM
Hello Yammy1,

How are you? Hope that you are keeping well

You said that you are taking Xanax.... if you don't mind me asking, how much mg is your dosage? Does it help with your anxiety? Is there any side effects?

Appreciate if you could kindly share. Thank you very much, Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Yammy1 on November 15, 2017, 02:14:50 PM
Hi bj,day three of 5 mg of citalopram and my anxiety hit the roof shortly after starting it, even on such a low dose. I am taking half of a 250 mg Xanax very low dose but it is taking the edge off. I am very aware that  Xanax is addictive and I only intend to take it when I absolutly need it. I'm hoping the citalopram will start working in the next week or so. I hope this helps x
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 16, 2017, 08:45:35 AM
Thank you, Yammy1, for your kind answer.

Hope that you will feel better soon. Living with anxiety is just horrendous  :'(

Hugs, Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: HopeAlone on November 16, 2017, 06:21:38 PM
Hiya HopeAlone,
Sorry, I missed out asking you..... how are you doing on Venlafaxine? Are there any side effects? How long have you taken them and what is the daily dosage?
My dr said that he would like to put me on Venlafaxine.....
Appreciate your feedbacks. Bj
Hello again bj
Sorry for late reply. I have been on venlafaxine for about 18 month now and it helped within a few weeks. I'm on quite a high dose but my anxiety and depression was hideous, I still suffer from them but no where near as bad as they were 2 years ago.
Progressive muscle relaxation is where you first tense your muscles and then relax them. I listen to an audio on an evening or sometimes just through the day when I'm feeling really tense, it's easy to do and helps me x
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 17, 2017, 04:10:06 PM
Hello HopeAlone,

Thank you for sharing the info. Am going to see the dr by end next week and he already told me that he would prescribe Venlafaxine. Am getting worried and scared if there's side effects ..... as it is am handling too many side effects from menopause!!

Yes, I do too.....listen to audio meditations to help calm me. What do you listen to? Any recommendations?

Wishing you well. Take care, Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 18, 2017, 02:11:38 PM
Hello Ladies,

Can't seem to get rid of my daily headaches.....it's like a persistent dull ache, sometimes pounding and I feel like am off balance or floating .....feel really strange and not myself at all.

Anyone experiencing the same?

Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Annie0710 on November 18, 2017, 02:39:46 PM
Yes I was getting them.  I just kept taking painkillers and that 4head menthol stick.  It really is debilitating having them daily, I sympathise x
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Kathleen on November 18, 2017, 06:02:33 PM
Hello Bj118.

A daily headache was one of my earlier symptoms. I've talked about it before so apologies for repeating myself but I hope I can reassure you.

I have never been prone to headaches so waking up with one that persisted all day was unusual for me. I presumed it was hormonal especially as it always disappeared about 9pm every evening when I actually felt happy and well! I was not on HRT at the time and had no idea how long I would suffer them. As it turned out they finally stopped after six months and they have not recurred.  I have always assumed this was another fun phase that mother nature  was determined to subject me to and if it is the same for you I hope your episode is shorter than mine.

Wishing you well.

K.

Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Annie0710 on November 18, 2017, 07:05:10 PM
I can't think why it's  called the change

Destruction seems more apt x
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 19, 2017, 02:28:17 PM
Hello Annie,

Ohhh Boy.....am also taking paracetamol daily and it's still not going away. It's like a weird sort of headache.....
Did you also experience the floating / off balance feel?

Can't agree more.....path of destruction or change for the worse

Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 19, 2017, 02:32:35 PM
Hiya sparkle,

Thanks for letting me know. It's day and day out for me too.
Previously, I am not the kind to get headaches.....so I was getting worried at what's happening to me..
Sometimes the pain goes to my eyeballs, neck and shoulders.

Will ask for something stronger than paracetamol.
Take care, Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 19, 2017, 02:36:52 PM
Hello Kathleen,

Many thanks for your reply.
Oh dear.....can't imagine that you went through this for 6 months. As it is, its disturbing my daily life and work. Even with paracetamol, the headaches are not really easing.
Did you have other symptoms?
Wishing you well too. Take care, Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 20, 2017, 12:44:18 PM
 :sweatdrop:

Ladies..... how do you keep it together? How do you cope daily?
Any tips appreciated
Bj  :'(
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Annie0710 on November 20, 2017, 06:27:59 PM
When peri first hit me, it literally floored me.  I carried on (god knows how) working for 6 months then one morning I woke up crying saying I can't do it anymore.  I handed my notice in that day and took 5 months out.  I honestly am not exaggerating I thought I had dementia and Drs were missing the clues xxx
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 21, 2017, 09:39:23 AM
Hello Annie,

Thank you very much for your kind reply.
You have described exactly what I am feeling.....just floored!!! Went to work, was so stressed out, came home....and cried!!!
Honestly, I don't know how to cope with myself, work and home!!! Have no one to talk to....
 :'( :'( :'(
Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Kathleen on November 21, 2017, 09:54:04 AM
Hello  Bj118.

So sorry that you are suffering and sending hugs to you. Dear God, who would be a woman!

To answer your earlier question to me about the headaches, yes I had plenty other meno symptoms at the same time but for that particular period the daily headaches dominated.

Wishing you well and keep posting.

K.
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Dotty on November 21, 2017, 10:27:04 AM
I couldn't work the way I feel at the moment x
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 21, 2017, 01:25:50 PM
Dear Kathleen,

Many thanks for your hugs.....sure need plenty of them! Sending lots of hugs right back at ya ❤️

Ahhhhh.....you are right......the wonder of being a woman.
If you don't mind, could you share what other meno symptoms did you face? Did you have low moods and anxiety?

Take care, Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 21, 2017, 01:31:57 PM
Hello Dotty,
Honestly, takes every bit of energy to work. Doesn't help that it's a highly stress job.... am doing sales for pharmaceutical company.
Used to love my job.....now, I cringe from dealing with the company's customers.
Wishing you well, Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Dotty on November 21, 2017, 01:37:45 PM
Hi BJ
Thanks.....I feel so ill!!!! Never knew the menopause could make you this ill x
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 21, 2017, 02:08:38 PM
Hiya Dotty,

Oh gosh.....me too, never knew that menopause is such a tough journey. If you see my first post, am dealing with so many symptoms that I thought I am going crazy.....
Lately, headaches, off balance and nausea started.....so difficult to get through each day feeling ill. Having high anxiety is another horrible thing to face...

Hope that we will get better....
Gentle hugs....Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Dotty on November 21, 2017, 02:18:45 PM
Hi BJ
Just read your first post and I can relate to a lot of it.

Nausea, no appetite and unable to eat are my worst at the moment. I feel hungry and eat and then feel sick . I'm exhausted and just feel so ill. X
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 21, 2017, 02:57:12 PM
Dear Dotty,

It's really not nice at all......started being nauseous and loss of appetite.....feel hungry but when I ate, next I feel nauseous.

So I had to change to eating very small portions. Now I take a lot of soups and stews....also found that taking Greek yogurt does help.

Sorry that you are feeling ill......Big hugs to you.....may we feel better soon
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Dotty on November 21, 2017, 02:58:57 PM
Yes BJ that's me. I feel hungry so I eat and then I feel sick !

Doc says that nausea is not a menopause symptom!!!!!!!
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 21, 2017, 03:09:14 PM
Hi Dotty,

Just to put your mind at ease.....recently, I went to see my gp and had a long discussion on each on my list of symptoms and she very gently said that all these are perimenopause symptoms. All due to the fluctuations or declining of hormones.
Honestly, part of me didn't believe her because I feel sick and I seek for answers and reassurance by asking here. There are ladies here who are going through the same and by knowing, it made me feel that I am not alone. It amazes me on how the ladies coped!
Dotty, I do feel for you.....it's really a daily struggle.  :'( :'( :'(
Sending you positive and healing vibes. Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Dotty on November 21, 2017, 03:17:15 PM
Thanks BJ.

I can't believe that something so natural can make you feel so ill.  I've had every blood test under the sun because doc doesn't think my symptoms are due to menopause!
I keep hoping that one day soon I'll feel normal again and be able to live my life properly x

Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 21, 2017, 03:35:32 PM
Yesssss.....I too keep thinking on how long this is going to be????? How am I going to cope????
When will I return to normalcy????
Such a scary journey for me  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Dotty on November 21, 2017, 03:53:17 PM
It's very frightening. I feel like I have lost control of my whole life x
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 21, 2017, 04:27:40 PM
Dotty.....are you on any medications or ad to help you handle?
At the moment, my dr prescribed me Alpralozam till end of this week ....have another appointment.
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Dotty on November 21, 2017, 04:49:30 PM
 BJ - I'm taking HRT
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: HopeAlone on November 21, 2017, 05:56:14 PM
Bj and dotty this is the scariest thing I've ever done, my hormones are running amok in my body at least I hope it's my hormones or otherwise I need sectioning! How long does this go on for?  :hug:
Title: This is my first visit to this blog after being diagnosed with early menopause.
Post by: Victorianankervis on November 21, 2017, 08:01:48 PM
In Feb 2016 my GP took me off the combined pill and put me on a POP. (Aged 42) Within a couple of months I Started to get menopausal symptoms but my GP didn't seem to believe me saying I was too young. (My mum was in her early 30s when she went through it) By August I pursuaded him to do blood tests but  had to come off the pill for 12 weeks first. LH and FSH levels came back as post menopausal. Had a second set of tests done 8 weeks after and Same  result. Saw gynacologist who put me back on a lower dose of the combined pill, 20mg, which all but stopped the aching joints and hot flushes but not other symptoms. Now been back on origional combined pill 30 mg for 6 months but still have constant foggy unfocused head, itchy legs, dry skin, thinning hair, low mood bordering  depression, (mostly due to feeling so crap all the time) fatigue, lack of enthusiasm for things I used to enjoy, no sex life at all, chest pain on and off (had ECG, all ok) and am just about at the end of my teather. At 44 I feel about 70! Appointment next week to discuss HRT but not feeling confident it will help.
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 22, 2017, 09:48:46 AM
Hello Dotty,

Hope you are better today.

Isn't HRT helping ease the symptoms?
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 22, 2017, 09:51:38 AM
Hello HopeAlone,

Seeing your message makes me sad.....you are so right.....how long are these going to go on for??

Today.....am dazed and having a headache!!

Sending you gentle hugs....Take good care, Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 22, 2017, 09:56:24 AM
Hello Victorianankervis,

Sorry to hear about the rough time you are having......it's just such a horrible time for all of us.

I too feel like a creaky 90 year old....

Why are you not confident about HRT?

Sending you hugs and take care, Bj
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Dotty on November 22, 2017, 10:09:14 AM
Hi BJ. This is my 5th week on hrt. I had 3 weeks on a low dose and then it was upped. It has stopped the day flushes but I am still feeling dreadful....exhausted , sick, can't do anything x
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 22, 2017, 01:04:39 PM
Oh dear, Dotty, you sound like you are having an awful time....hugs for you
How long do you have to take HRT to see results? Sorry as I don't take HRT.
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Dotty on November 22, 2017, 01:16:18 PM
My doc said give it 2-3 months
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Bj118 on November 22, 2017, 02:19:47 PM
Dotty, am sorry that you will have to struggle for 2/3 months.... have no wise words to comfort you!
Just sending you gentle hugs.....❤️
On top of facing the physical aspects, I am struggling massively from anxiety. 😰😰😰

Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Dotty on November 22, 2017, 02:31:15 PM
Thanks BJ. You are very kind. 😘
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Victorianankervis on November 22, 2017, 07:05:04 PM
Hi Bj118, I am not confident HRT will work as my 30mg combined  pill hasn't put me back to how I felt before I stopped taking it. I am willing to give it a go and would love to feel like I am living  again instead of just existing. It has been reassuring to read others posts and realise I am not alone. I know lots of menopausal women ( mostly at work!) But none them seem to have as many symptoms as me. I don't know if it was because I went into it full force, going from
 having oestrogen via the pill to having none in a matter of months. I kind of missed the  peri stage. Well I have an appointment next week so will see how it goes. Fingers crossed. Thank you for posting.
Title: Re: HELP....am in dire straits with never ending list
Post by: Hurdity on November 23, 2017, 09:24:09 AM
Hi Victorianankervis

 :welcomemm:

Sorry your post got missed by most members because your introduction is on someone's thread! If you want to repost and start a new thread in the new members area then more will be along to welcome you and to talk about your situation?

It may be that now you are peri-menopausal perhaps you are tolerating the progestogen part of the pill less well than you used to and a different preparation may help? I'm not an expert on these (pills) but I know some have different generations of progestogen in, with the later types being better tolerated and with fewer side effects? There is also the pill QLAIRA which bridges the gap between the pill and HRT as the oestrogen is the same type as HRT (estradiol), but it is still a CCP - and only has 2 tablet free days. The oestrogen dose is variable throughout the cycle. It might be worth asking about this one or looking into some of the other CCP types?

Another alternative is to have a Mirena coil ( for contraception) and then take oestrogen as patch, tablet or gel for the oestrogen - and the coil will protect your womb lining.

Hope this helps.

Hurdity x