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Title: NHS in crisis as computers targeted!
Post by: CLKD on May 12, 2017, 06:20:44 PM
Back to paper and pen then and keeping records in folders where they can be accessed!!!!  Not on computers which with one pull of a plug can disappear into the ether! 
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Post by: greenECLECtus28 on May 12, 2017, 06:57:08 PM
I know just shows you how vulnerable these systems can be I guess nowadays  the volume of patients would potentially make that difficult don't know if it's true but there was a recent report suggesting that some of the hospitals hadn't been updating their software if that's the case then that needs to be looked into as that is potentially very serious.
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Post by: Mbrown001 on May 12, 2017, 07:42:20 PM
My son worked for a company that had quite a lot to do with the NHS networks. I remember him telling us that the systems were so antiquated that they were so hard to maintain. Like everything else improvements have to take place at some point.
It's obviously come back to bite them on the bum.

Mrs Brown
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Post by: CLKD on May 12, 2017, 07:49:26 PM
It's now World wide apparently.
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Post by: Pennyfarthing on May 12, 2017, 08:37:10 PM
Daughters boyfriend went for his asthma check tonight and the nurse had to write everything down as computers had been cyber attacked.
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Post by: wombat62 on May 13, 2017, 12:06:58 AM
It's just been reported on the news in Oz.

They said they were shutting A&E departments in the UK, really? Surely they should have some sort of back up system i.e. paper, pen and a form?

Apparently someone clicked on a bad link on an email....and kaboom...
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Post by: cubagirl on May 13, 2017, 08:19:27 AM
70 countries affected worldwide.  Old operating systems being used, despite being advised otherwise. £22,000 per trust on security doesn't seem much in the grand scheme of things.
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Post by: Taz2 on May 13, 2017, 08:35:35 AM
This article has an explanation as to what Ransomeware is http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/12/nhs-hit-major-cyber-attack-hackers-demanding-ransom/

Very worrying how we can all be held to ransom and just goes to show that we should never click on unknown links but it's easy to forget that if people are under pressure and working on outdated systems I would think.

Taz x
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Post by: babyjane on May 13, 2017, 09:19:17 AM
Why on earth is the NHS still using Windows XP which Microsoft withdrew support for a few years ago!  :o

I used to be on XP and kept getting malware so I changed to windows 10.  I suppose it is all down to cost again  :(
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Post by: cubagirl on May 13, 2017, 10:02:40 AM
Hubby & I both commented on the lack of patients turning up at A&E departments since this happened. Makes you wonder.  (I feel a cyber onslaught here 😉)

Feel sorry for those who are caught up in all this though. Discharges can't be made,  vital operations are being cancelled, medications can't be processed etc. Wonder how long it will take to sort.
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Post by: nearly50 on May 13, 2017, 11:15:47 AM
Why on earth is the NHS still using Windows XP which Microsoft withdrew support for a few years ago!  :o

I used to be on XP and kept getting malware so I changed to windows 10.  I suppose it is all down to cost again  :(

Exactly. Why on earth were these systems not updated? Read somewhere today that the systems controlling Trident still use Windows XP, but I'm hoping that's not true!
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Post by: CLKD on May 13, 2017, 12:42:09 PM
In My Day  >:( - everything was taken down on paper with copies kept.  Filed in folders.  Easy to find (usually).  Shorthand transcribed in patient notes using type-writers .......... then someone suggested electric type-writers  :o  ;D ......... unless computer date is backed-up and copies kept elsewhere, there are likely to be day-by-day problems; now that someone has pulled the plug ........ I have said for years if ISIS gets hold of the wire and cuts it with a knife  >:( we will all be up s/creek without a paddle.

Then a friend who is in IT said 'but we don't use wires any longer' -  :bang: :bang: :bang: bugga off was my reply.  Whatever, it should be a wake-up call to Banks, Building Societies, Hotels, Vet. Surgeries  :(
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Post by: CLKD on May 13, 2017, 12:54:18 PM
Nissan factory now hit.
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Post by: bramble on May 13, 2017, 01:53:15 PM
With the NHS strapped so much for cash and creaking under the strain of so many new and longterm patients, think of the outcry that would be if we were told that they were going to spend many thousands of millions of pounds on a new IT system. With all the resultant chaos and upheaval lasting years until it was bedded in. Sometimes it is easier to stay with an old but working system.
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Post by: babyjane on May 13, 2017, 02:29:20 PM
but it's not working now  :(
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Post by: Tempest on May 13, 2017, 03:11:58 PM
A very senior Consultant I have been seeing for a very long time HATES the computer system and insists on having the patient paper file at every consultation - he says it's a nightmare how often there are IT glitches and refuses to rely on it.