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Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: Artmouse on April 04, 2017, 09:28:02 AM

Title: Insomnia and HRT
Post by: Artmouse on April 04, 2017, 09:28:02 AM
Hello all,


I'm wondering if anyone has found that HRT has helped their insomnia? 

I went to the Doctor's quite a while ago and she agreed to try me on Ellest Duet but I felt nervous about taking it (silly I know) and stopped after a couple of days.  Now I'm thinking I need to try again as am getting desperate.  I actually feel like my life is being wrecked by insomnia, it's affecting everything, especially work making it really hard to get through the day sometimes... I've always had a tendency to insomnia but now it's hitting me like a ton of bricks and I think it's hormonal.  I'm 53 and periods are still there but more like every 2 to 3 months now.  Help!

Title: Re: Insomnia and HRT
Post by: Salad on April 04, 2017, 10:20:10 AM
It's pretty much cured it  ;D

I always struggled to get off to sleep, even as a child. I think my preferred sleep time would have been 2am to 10am.
It got worse when the menopause hit as not only would I take a good couple of hours to get off to sleep but I would wake after a couple of hours and then take an hour or two to get back to sleep again!

With my HRT I go to sleep by midnight and wake with my alarm - 8 ish. I might get the odd night where I'm still awake at 2 ish but that's normally a sign that my oestrogen is a bit low.

I love sleeping  :)

Title: Re: Insomnia and HRT
Post by: Artmouse on April 04, 2017, 11:16:09 AM
That sounds so good!!  Can you remember how long it took to have an effect?  And I'm really jealous...:)
Title: Re: Insomnia and HRT
Post by: dazned on April 04, 2017, 12:46:55 PM
Sadly my hrt didn't help my insomnia 😕

But we are all different in how hrt will/won't help us. I think as we get older quality/quantity of sleep changes immensely. Gone are the days when I could sleep 9 hours solid,I think I'm lucky if I can get 5hours !
Title: Re: Insomnia and HRT
Post by: Callisto on April 04, 2017, 05:52:20 PM
Hi there Artmouse,

HRT has saved me from terrible insomnia, which was my main symptom alongside anxiety which has ratcheted way down too; it took at least 4 months of indecision before taking the plunge and starting the HRT (had the hormones in bathroom for three months before taking) but I haven't looked back.

Callisto
Title: Re: Insomnia and HRT
Post by: Artmouse on April 04, 2017, 06:58:14 PM
Hi Callisto

That's good, HRT seems to be very variable in how it affects insomnia...  I worry a lot about the side effects but I am getting desperate - and have anxiety too.  Maybe the GP can offer something different.  Have had sleeping pills but they make me feel awful the next day.
Title: Re: Insomnia and HRT
Post by: Callisto on April 04, 2017, 07:50:39 PM
Yes,
Sleeping pills made me feel awful too. I have had no side effects at all from the HRT..
Much better that the depressing effects of menopause which I intend on avoiding for as long as possible : ) C
Title: Re: Insomnia and HRT
Post by: Salad on April 05, 2017, 06:49:42 AM
That sounds so good!!  Can you remember how long it took to have an effect?  And I'm really jealous...:)

I felt a difference within a week for all my symptoms - I started on 2 pumps of Oestrogel and increased to 3 pumps after a month.
Title: Re: Insomnia and HRT
Post by: Artmouse on April 05, 2017, 09:49:29 AM
Sorry, I'm not much up on this, by pumps how is it applied/taken?
Title: Re: Insomnia and HRT
Post by: Hurdity on April 05, 2017, 07:10:34 PM
Oestrogel is dispensed by means of a pump canister where 1 pump delivers 1.25 g gel containing 1.5 mg estradiol. This would be a low dose and the standard medium dose is 2 pumps. Of course only a small proprtion of this is absorbed - women vary in how much estradiol is absorbed from the gel. 4 pumps would be a high dose. If you are post-meno and in your 50's or 60's then the usual would be either 1 or 2 pumps but some women do need more to relieve symptoms and to feel good.

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Insomnia and HRT
Post by: Artmouse on April 06, 2017, 08:47:27 PM
Ah, OK thanks.  Think I'd feel better about HRT being absorbed through skin rather than taking pills but I'm guessing the pills are cheaper.
Title: Re: Insomnia and HRT
Post by: Dana on April 06, 2017, 09:33:16 PM
HRT certainly fixed my insomnia, and I had it BAD!!! No side effects from it, except lovely 7 hours of sleep every night.
Title: Re: Insomnia and HRT
Post by: Artmouse on April 07, 2017, 08:13:06 AM
7 hours sounds like a dream to me!  I'm beginning to think this sounds like a solution...
Title: Re: Insomnia and HRT
Post by: soniad on April 07, 2017, 08:33:45 AM
Hi Artmouse,

It's a resounding yes from me.

HRT really fixed my insomnia

It's worth giving it a go, but you have to do it for at least 3 months.

cheers