Menopause Matters Forum
Menopause Discussion => All things menopause => Topic started by: MIS71MUM on January 31, 2017, 12:33:03 PM
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Hello
I've posted before about erratic bleeding, differing HRT regimes and the Mirena. In the end, my condition of adenomyosis got the better of me and I had a Total Abdominal Hysterectomy on Thursday.
My question is, following this operation, is it automatically required that you should increase your oestrogen? Or is it still trial and error? I'm currently on about 44 mg of an extradot patch. I kept my ovaries by the way.
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No idea about the HRT but just wanted to wish you well Mis71Mum. Feet up, take it easy! x
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Thank you Elizabethrose.
Doing well so far, not needing painkillers and haven't been constipated! However, putting my feet up is the hard bit!
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Hi Mis71Mum
I hope you get full and speedy recovery! If you have kept your ovaries I think your docs will go on with your regime but without the need of progesterone (amen). I guess the oestrogen level will be addressed based on your menopause symptoms rather than the absence of uterus, but I'm just guessing...
I'm sure someone here will pop up with a more scientifc answer.
XXX
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Personally, I'd say stay as you are. If your ovaries haven't been affected by the surgery nothing hormonal should be different
I had my total hysterectomy when I was 32, I just stayed as I was but within 6 months I experienced menopausal symptoms, my gp said the blood supply to the ovaries had been affected, it can and does happen but you'll know it as you'll experience more or stronger meno symptoms then you can increase your oestrogen
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Wishing you a speedt recovery :)
:foryou:
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Mum71, this is a very brave step, wish you speedy recovery and end of peri-related problems!
Milamam x
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Hello Milamam
Sorry can't help as I had a TAH but with BSO on 6th Dec last year, just want to wish you a speedy recovery x
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Thanks ladies for your replies.
As I still my ovaries I think I will have to put up with fluctuations here and there. However I won't have to take any progesterone again.
For now, just enjoying being bleed free for the first time in 6 months!
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Hi Mis71Mum - wow, I think we chatted briefly about our mirenas? I take it yours wasn't going too well! I hope you continue to feel great and things just keep getting better. No prog! Yay!!
Mx
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Yey MurphyDurf, you're back!
Did you realise you are famous on another thread? Some members have been missing you.
Yes I do remember us speaking before - constant bleeding, back ache, stomach ache, low mood with the Mirena all got to me! In the end, I realised that whilst ever I took oestrogen my condition wouldn't improve, so took a gamble whilst relatively stable. Let's hope it pays off.
How are you now you've have the Mirena removed?
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Well the first few days after removal were nasty with VERY heavy bleeding which I didn't expect but seems to be calming now. Like you, I had all the bad side effects and none of the good things. Feeling brighter already. Did you have yours removed before surgery or do they do it during? Pardon my ignorance, don't know about these things but I'm interested, particularly the no prog part!
Mx
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This was a question that I asked my gynaecologist. The Mirena came out at the same time as my uterus, so I didn't have to endure any more bleeding.
I think I had read that some ladies do have the Mirena removed before surgery but luckily that wasn't the case for me.
I'm hoping that in time, my brain will register that I no longer need progesterone and I will happily take Oestrogen alone! That's the plan anyway!
Hope things settle and improve for you xx
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Thank you, and you!
Keep posting on your progress.
Mx
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Biggest hugs to you, Mis71mum!! You take it easy, ok? Much love and healing hugs to you! xxxxx :foryou:
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Hi Ladies
Thanks for your replies and kind words.
Since my operation, my flushes are back with avengence! To be honest, not sure if I ever felt my Oestrogen was quite right pre op. Just hoping things balance out.
Anyway, off to read the Tiblone thread as that's my next treatment if patches alone don't suit me.
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You're welcome to join the 'tribe' Mis71mum if you choose to take Tibolone. We're a friendly bunch! Hugs!!!! xxxx
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How are things Mis71Mum - are you feeling ok? Got flushed under control?
Mx
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Hi MurphyDurf
Thanks for asking after me, today is exactly a week post operation.
Flushes not quite under control yet but going to hold off before increasing Oestrogen.
I know I've had major surgery but I have noticed less back ache, less low mood and no indigestion/ nausea since the Mirena/Adenomyosis removal.
I've noticed a bit of nervousness and mood swings but I know I've got to allow for re-balancing following the op.
The problem is keeping myself busy, without overdoing it. But then if I take it too easy, it's harder to sleep at night. I suppose it's all part of the recovery process.
How's things with you?
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Good news on losing some of the nastier side effects. I too am benefiting from mirena removal, like you, I had backache and very low mood including just feeling out if it all the time. It may well have settled but I just found myself sitting staring into space like a fart in a trance!
Happy that's gone!
Back on patches and increased dose as I'm determined to get my E levels up after a very low blood test result.
Onwards and upwards we go.....
Mx
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It's funny you mention the staring into space. I felt quite drugged up sometimes with the Mirena. But as already on AD's and estradot, I didn't want to add any more to the mix.
Good luck with the patches, I too couldn't get on with gel.
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Oh that's interesting re the gel, there's another lady posted today re. not absorbing properly. It's such a lottery, with some ladies doing really well on their 1st hrt choice and others never seeming to get the balance. I'm doing ok past few days on patches. Used a double dose and when I felt a bit 'high' I removed one patch, so far, so good. Seems like more even delivery but who knows?
Mxx
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I've tried Femoston 1/10 & 2/10, evorel sequi, oestrogel and utrogestan and Mirena & estradot!
All gave me heavy bleeding which led to investigations that showed up Adenomyosis. I realised that I suffered from progesterone withdrawal on Femoston, evorel sequi and oestrogel and utrogestan. So for me the Mirena and estradot was the best.
I saw on another post your Oestrogen reading - mine was 126 pmol this time last year.
I'm glad that I no longer need to take progesterone as the withdrawal wasn't great.
Having a glass of red 8 days post op as not on any medication for pain.
Also since having Mirena removed I am no longer raiding the fridge for food!
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Good for you! Enjoy!
You only have to find suitable E now and there's lots of options out there. Possibly it was just the prog in the combined patches that didn't suit and the E only patch might in those brands? Or Sandrena gel?
Anyway enjoy the Vino! Salut!
Mx