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Menopause Discussion => Personal Experiences => Topic started by: Clare11 on November 14, 2016, 04:15:32 PM
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Hi, I am sure this is not an unusual feeling for those going through the menopause but I am now getting this sick feeling. It doesn't always come at the same time but when it does it's like a wave of nausea. How have others coped with it and wil it go away on its own in due course?
It just seems over the Last few weeks all sorts of problems keep popping up,;
Sickness
Fizzing in the ears
Not feeling like I belong to my body
Light headed
Not sleeping well
Anxiety
Weeping
Will anything else pop and night me?
I have mentioned that I not taking any medication but I do want to feel like I did say 10 months ago. I am starting to find these feelings very tiring and they play on my mind which makes things worse. Catch 22.
How do you cope?
:sigh: :sigh:
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HORMONES >:( ::)
Eat little and often. Ginger products can ease symptoms as can over-the-counter anti-travel sickness meds., though these may cause drowsiness ::)
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Hello Clare.
I think a lot of ladies will sympathise with how you are feeling. The range and severity of symptoms always amazes me! I also recognise what you say about how these feelings play on your mind. I am certainly guilty of catastrophising everything. Oddly enough I don't panic about physical illness but I do worry about the emotional effects and of course I panic about being anxious.
Sorry this isn't much help and hopefully some other ladies will be along soon with some proper advice!
Take care.
K.
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I went through that stage in mornings for a while last year. I found getting some fresh air helped and forcing myself to eat something helped. I try to remind myself that it won't last forever but it is hard when you're in the thick of it
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Nausea has always been my worst problem regardless of reasons, it can get me to despair in a matter of moments and then I can't eat at all :sigh:
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I have experienced the nausea and it reminds me of the nausea feeling I had during pregnancy. I take an anti histamine which seems to help.
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:thankyou: :bighug:
Off to the shops for ginger nuts. And re the antihistamine, well used to take that in the summer for hay fever but have stopped and guess what I can't remember feeling sick then. So will get back into those during winter and see if they help. x
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Hi, I am sure this is not an unusual feeling for those going through the menopause but I am now getting this sick feeling. It doesn't always come at the same time but when it does it's like a wave of nausea. How have others coped with it and wil it go away on its own in due course?
It just seems over the Last few weeks all sorts of problems keep popping up,;
Sickness
Fizzing in the ears
Not feeling like I belong to my body
Light headed
Not sleeping well
Anxiety
Weeping
Will anything else pop and night me?
I have mentioned that I not taking any medication but I do want to feel like I did say 10 months ago. I am starting to find these feelings very tiring and they play on my mind which makes things worse. Catch 22.
How do you cope?
:sigh: :sigh:
I got the sickness in the mornings during Peri but it fizzled out once my periods stopped.
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I'm well post meno but for the past month have been experiencing feelings like morning sickness, although they can happen any time of day. Even a small beer now makes me queasy. I think it's to do with me chopping and changing my hrt dosage recently, blooming hormones ugh!
I like the idea of antihistamines , thanks for the heads up!
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Still feeling sick, sick, sick. B***** fed up with it. Think the OH patience is wearing too.
Feel so fed up and down.
At the mo everything I try just doesn't seem to work
:'(
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As well as the anti histamine, I also eat a banana every morning. If I wake feeling nauseous, the anti histamine and the banana seem to help. It's definitely hormone related. Have you had children? Does it feel like how morning sickness used to feel as it does for me. I was never sick when pregnant, just used to feel sick and it's the same feeling as now in peri.
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Thanks to you both. And no, never had children. In fact never really been to Doc's until recently. I hate being prodded and poked, big softie really.
And we will survive the roller coaster ;)
Added antihistamine to my shopping list along with bananas, which I think are good for potassium, which I think is good for you.
x
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How do anti-histamines help?
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How do anti-histamines help?
Anti histamines are also good for people with allergies and not just Hay Fever, which most people associate taking an anti histamine for. I used them early on when I started feeling sick as i thought maybe it was an allergy to what I was eating etc and it always helps but not sure why!
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:thankyou:
I have used them to aid sleep.
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Clare - I really sympathise. Nausea has been the symptom that has caused me such misery over the years. At one point I was on 8 Omeprazole a day and still feeling very sick every morning and evening. In the end I ditched the Omeprazole and gave in to HRT ( I was determined not to take it ). I only rarely feel nausea now and who knows, if I had started HRT earlier I could have got back the three years or so where I felt so very ill. Doctors do not recognise nausea as a symptom of the menopause. I was diagnosed with GERD or acid reflux and given tablets to empty my stomach, to supress the acid and anti sickness, non of which cured me. I was also offered anti depressants which I wasn't prepared to take. I now only take HRT.
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That's interesting about the antihistamines. I have now been diagnosed with gastric migraines triggered by my own oestrogen and antihistamines were one of the two things that stopped the nausea, although they made me drowsy and more lightheaded.
I tried all the anti nausea meds from the docs but they all made it worse as they are brain stimulants (didn't know it was migraines at the time so was also force-fed the dreaded PPIs!).
The other product that worked was Emetrol (have to Amazon it in if in UK though which is a shame as over the counter and very cheap if in US and Oz). Each dose only lasted an hour or so but when you're that ill an hour off is heaven.
The pill stopped mine after a week (made it worse first) so getting hormones balanced is the key.
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Awww Claire 😖
I had this too infact exactly as you state look at my tibilone posts 🙄
It's rubbish
I'm certainly no expert on the contrary .. Yet mines passing now get to you or GP or practice nurse X good luck 🙋🙋
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Yes, I can get that feeling of nausea. I feel empty inside, hungry but also sicky too, so that I am reluctant to eat.
It's exactly the same feeling of nausea I used to get when pregnant, right up until giving birth. I was never physically sick, just hunger tinged with nausea. I prepared so many meals, then only had a spoonful because I just couldn't fancy it anymore.
So I 'think' it is down to high progesterone?
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In pregnancy its high oestrogen stimulating the foetus that causes the morning sickness in the first trimester, more detail is below from Wikipedia, but you could be getting the progesterone acid reflux which can make you feel sick and hungry due to the excess acid as mentioned here too as there are so many different types of nausea:
Pathophysiology of vomiting in pregnancy
An increase in the circulating level of the hormone estrogen.[9] However, there is no consistent evidence of differences in estrogen levels and levels of bilirubin between women that experience sickness and those that do not.[10] Related to increased estrogen levels, a similar form of nausea is also seen in some women who use hormonal contraception or hormone replacement therapy.
An increase in progesterone relaxes the muscles in the uterus, which prevents early childbirth, but may also relax the stomach and intestines, leading to excess stomach acids and gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD).
An increase in human chorionic gonadotropin. It is probably not the human chorionic gonadotropin itself that causes the nausea. More likely, it is the human chorionic gonadotropin stimulating the maternal ovaries to secrete estrogen, which in turn causes the nausea.
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Thanks everyone to read all the information about nausea during perimemopause. It is strange that some doctors do not see it as big issue. I was taking stematil to avoid nausea but it seemed to stop working for me now. So my doctor has changed the medicine. I think this sick feeling is the worst and really stops from being healthy at all. Could some please share any tricks that have worked for them. I am not being suggest hrt at this stage due to perimenopause situation. Also is it due to low levels of progrestrone?
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The sickness feeling is one of the worst of the menopause horrors and there are those aplenty, enough to break the strongest of women. I have experienced nausea over the past years since I entered full blown menopause. There are periods of reprieve but never know if it will return. It has immensely impacted on my life. The worst of it is my GP said she had never heard of it so this made me feel really alone except that I know from the internet that it is far from uncommon. It is just like morning sickness in pregnancy and surely warrants more research. I did get some prochlorperazine tablets and I have also taken over the counter travel sickness tablet Avomine. I try to get a round of toast when I wake. I tend to only feel hungry very late on at night and with waking every few hours during the night I have a banana or Weetabix and hot milk as it is in the night that I seem to crave food. Sounds as if I have gone bonkers, well that's how I sometimes feel! I never imagined that meno could make some women feel so downright ill. Claire I send my sympathy and to all others with the nausea etc etc. I think there is also a tablet which is prochlorperazine called Buccastem M form pharmacists or on prescription.
Big Hugs from Meg
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I HATE that nausea. It's what causes panic attacks :sigh: then I can't eat ……...
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I am so glad I am not alone.
:bighug: to you all. x
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Once you land here, you're never alone ::)
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Agree with both of you CLKD and Clare11. Exactly what you said CLKD wrote is what happens to me. All 3 things in row and do not from where it will strike. I have just had ultrasound for checking for stones in abdomen region. Last 2 day I have had very bad nausea and also I have lost weight.
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Hi, sickness not so bad recently, been taking the antihistamines, so not sure if they are helping. But now at work my right eye just had a blood vessel bleed, so being me with my anxiety put it down to having high blood pressure, which I am sure I haven't got, well didn't have about 4 months ago.
So suppose what I am trying to ask does HRT help with anxiety probs or is it better to have ADs?
I am on the fence at the mo with going down the HRT road.
x
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I have tried AD and seems does not help. As I have irregular periods now the dr are bit hesitant to give hrt. I will be seeing a specialist and asking for options in this regard. Both anxiety and nausea go hand in hand. I would really like to meet someone who could tell how long this lasts for and whether it gets any better with menopause rather than perimenopause where hormones are all over the place. Keep posted
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I don't like the nausea. Got it so bad in peri, like morning sickness
I had some anti nausea pills left from a bad migraine so on desperate days I took them. I put them away somewhere so safe I can't find them
Nausea is much much less now I'm post meno but when it does come it drags me down
X
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And on top of that I have been having a continuous sort of headache. Sometimes I take an ibuprofen but mainly not but it's there and head feels as if it is full of pressure. And I have flippin Fizzing in the ears constantly.........
Is this all due to the Menopause?????
x
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More than likely clare
Meno has given me headaches (I'm into about week 3 of daily ones again) and tinnitus amongst my 100s of other symptoms
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I don't mean to pry but hasn't HRT got rid of these symptoms. I ask as thinking of trying HRT, it's been 19 months since my last period.
x
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I have exactly the same. Feels sinus related. Had it since Saturday then just came on my period this afternoon and headache easing.
Also get the fizzing ears.
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Well this is my head exactly and I had severe nausea a few months back and I've now been diagnosed with gastric migraines caused by high oestrogen. So wondering if everyone with the nausea, dizziness and head pressure are having migraines? I couldn't find anything on google for gastric migraines but there's a lot about hormonal migraines and it does say they're worse in middle age and better post menopause.
Maybe it's all linked to the pituitary gland from the peri volatility?
I don't think I get auras as I didn't have sudden attacks that lasted a certain length of time, mine was just constant 5am to 8pm when adrenaline is higher. I also don't get headaches but my worst symptoms have been in my head with sea sickness, lighheadedness and twitching face and muscles. Also a horrible pulling sensation in my lower neck nerves that did come and go and a strange detached mood that would strike suddenly.
I don't think it's anything to worry about just a manifestation in the nervous system that's just very unpleasant.
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Just to add I also sometimes get weakness in one arm and hand so hard to grip cutlery without it shaking. It's very short lived though but now makes sense if its migraines.
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Hi dangermouse, your weakness sounds like an aura to me. Silent migraine produces so many of the symptoms you ladies are discussing in either the prodrome stage or aura stage. Let me post a link on a recent thread on silent migraine, migraine without the headache. It's a pretty unknown condition as everyone associates migraine as the headache only. Have a read, there are a couple of links posted that are very comprehensive. I'm sorry but Menomale and I were having a conversation so her posts are now missing so it will seem a little disjointed. I hope it helps.
http://www.menopausematters.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,33983.0.html
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Thanks so much for that ElizabethRose.
I don't think I have any specific food triggers as I could only drink milk for several weeks when couldn't get food down and the symptoms were as bad as ever (and never drank it before as dont really like it).
I have found that Red Bull instantly reduces my symptoms (but it's not caffeine addiction as not having a whiff of caffeine for 4 months made no difference - and it only has a strong cup of coffees worth) and never have more than one a day. I think the taurine in it may help migraines too and the endocrinologist said the combo of sugar and caffeine can be a remedy so interesting to read there about the fizzy glucose drinks.
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You're welcome dangermouse, I hope it was of some use. I think if we know the reason why things are happening, those things are easier to handle.
I've had the conversations re caffeine with some top dog mig specialists. It helps some people whilst it's a trigger for others. Some migraineurs find that if they drink a coffee even after the migraine starts it helps reduce the intensity: it would seem it unites with the pain meds in some way. I've never found that food has been a trigger but I don't drink any alcohol and wouldn't drink high caffeine drinks. I feel so sick when in migraine that I couldn't stomach coffee but sometimes drink one or two a day, usually decaf.
The glucose can be absorbed in the stomach and takes the meds with it apparently. The stomach is in stasis in migraine and stops transit which prevents meds being absorbed. It may be worth trying when you're struck down with an attack of gastric migraine, especially if you can take aspirin which seems to work well on migraine. Worth a try, it may abort an attack earlier. Boy oh boy, it's finding a way to manage all this stuff!
Do read that link to The International Classification of Headache Disorders on the Migraine Trust link I posted. It covers all types of migraine, and there are many, and also all types of headache. I seem to remember gastric migraines are discussed, you may get some hot tips!
Good luck dangermouse, it's amazing you even got a diagnosis for this, they are so tricky to diagnose. x