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Title: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: shell05 on October 12, 2016, 12:43:39 PM
Hello all.
I've been reading some of the ladies posts for a week or so and finally decided to jump in.
I'm 44 and at the beginning of the year was diagnosed with cancer in my womb so had to have full hysterectomy and radiotherapy.
As this was not only a massive shock emotionally but also a huge shock to my system and my body isn't happy at all!
Hot flushes are going to kill me I'm sure of it. I've never experienced anything so awful but I'm also having cold flushes and I mean freezing to the bone
I've been advised not to go with hrt as it may cause the cancer to return.
I don't sleep for days and now I'm turning into a snappy monster which is hard for me as normally I'm very laid back and easy going.
All in all feeling very deflated.
Sorry for the miserable post!
Thanks
Shelley
Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: Dancinggirl on October 12, 2016, 01:04:22 PM
Hi and welcome to MM

I think you should seek a second opinion about HRT - I'm not clued up on this but can womb cancer be oestrogen receptive???
You only need oestrogen and I believe women who have had a hysterectomy are actually less likely to get breast cancer if they use oestrogen  - I thought the long term study showed that hysterectomised women were slightly more likely to get breast cancer if they don't have oestrogen????.  However that may depend on why they had a hyster in the first place. I still think it's worth researching this more as you are very young to be oestrogen deficient and you need to have your heart and bones monitored.  It could be wise to use local oestrogen if you are getting vaginal dryness and your bladder function isn't as good as it used to be - do check this with your doctor.
I would have thought that oestrogen would be good for you right now - for the long term benefit of your bones and heart and also to reduce these horrid meno symptoms.
If oestrogen is really not an option for you then do look under non hormonal prescription treatments at the top of this page, under TREATMENTS.
Keep us posted. DG x
Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: CLKD on October 12, 2016, 01:32:14 PM
 :welcomemm:

Who advised you not to use HRT?  If your womb has been removed and if there are no signs of spread then I can't see a problem.  My breast disease [1995] was oestrogen receptive but for Quality of Life, should push come to shove ! I would certainly be discussing it with an oncologist.

I had cold flushes within 24 hours of taking Tamoxifen - a drug that almost killed me  :-\.  Like cold water running from the nape down between my shoulder blades, I thought I had a 'flu attack on the way  :o

Browse round.
Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: shell05 on October 12, 2016, 01:57:25 PM
I'm sorry I can't answer your question. All I get is 'it could aggravate any cells' and I get no definite answer really.
This has all happened in the last 8 month so is very new to me.
After having appointments with a genetics team apparently I have a high chance of cancerous issues
I can only repeat what I have been told.
The only other treatment I've had is acupuncture.
Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: CLKD on October 12, 2016, 04:19:19 PM
One problem can cause others ……… however, how likely is HRT to cause problems?  I often wonder whether they are repeating what they have read rather than dealing individually with patients, may I ask whether the genetics team requested specific blood tests with regards the 'high chance' of issues?   I am fascinated by 'what ifs'  ::)

Did the acupuncture help at all? 

Browse round, there is an Alternative section here …….. keep asking!
Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: Elizabethrose on October 12, 2016, 04:30:04 PM
Hi Shell05

I'm really sorry to hear of all you've been through and that you are feeling so poorly. I can't offer any advice I'm afraid but just wanted to wish you well and welcome you to the forum. x   :welcomemm:
Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: cubagirl on October 12, 2016, 04:49:15 PM
Sorry to hear about you being so poorly. I can't advise, as I don't know. I had hysterectomy long time ago & put on oestrogen only. However, a few years back I came off it for 8 months to see how I'd cope. The answer was I didn't! Horrid time. Emotions all to pot, hot flushes, sweats & oh the chills were horrendous. Spent my wishing for a chill when I was hot & vice versa!

Eventually my GP agreed that quality of life was more important than any possible risks. Try & seek further advice as no point in suffering, if you can get some help.
Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: Hurdity on October 12, 2016, 05:11:18 PM
Hi shell05

 :welcomemm: from me too.

Sorry to hear about your womb cancer. Do you know what stage it was and whether it was confined to the womb or if it had spread to any other organs? Also did you retain your ovaries?

Re the genetics team - may I suggest that you request more specific information about your susceptibility - for example perhaps they have found that you contain a faulty BRCA1 gene which increases the risk of breast and ovarian cancer? There is more information on this here: http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Breastcancer/Pages/Breastcancergenes.aspx

I'm not sure how oestrogen replacement relates to this and whether in fact this is a contra-indication. As Dancinggirl says you may be at a slightly reduced risk of breast cancer if you take oestrogen only.

If possible I would ask for a referral to a specialist gynae at a menopause clinic who will have access to your relevant history including the genetic information.

Sorry I can't be of more help but please do not give up yet - there will be help out there!

Hurdity x


Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: shell05 on October 13, 2016, 11:24:07 AM
Thank you everyone for your well wishes it's amazing how a few words can lift your mood.
I  am waiting for another appointment with the genetics team as only blood tests have been done so far.
The cancer had spread outside my womb into the muscle. I was stage 1b.
I had a full hysterectomy so no ovaries.
The acupuncture did not help at all and I actually found myself being more wound up at the thought of going.
Thanks again, I really am finding your comments very helpful and just being able to 'off load' is helping too.
Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: Elizabethrose on October 13, 2016, 02:25:50 PM
Good, off load away there's always someone here!

I had acupuncture done years ago when all else had failed with my migraines. I hated it too and it did nothing for the migraine!

All good wishes to you x
Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: Hurdity on October 13, 2016, 03:37:19 PM
Hi shell05

Good news that it was only stage 1 cancer (although no cancer news is good) - as that is very early as I expect you were told - and has not spread beyond the womb.

The fact that your ovaries have been removed too means that you have been plunged into sudden surgical menopause - which will be worse if you were not menopausal before your operation ie you were still having periods.

Good luck with your appointment with the genetics team which I presume will help determine if you are at greater risk of breast cancer due to having had endometrial cancer? I hope you don't have to wait too long.

Do keep us posted anyway.

Hurdity x
Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: Ms Saucy on October 13, 2016, 03:57:54 PM
Hi there.
What an amazing lady you are to have coped with all this and working on recovery. I have no idea about HRT being beneficial for you bit I send you hugs, cuddles and praise ..........take one day at a time is my motto .
Hugs Ms Saucy xx
Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: shell05 on October 13, 2016, 07:55:01 PM
Thank you Ms Saucy thats a lovely thing to say.
As you said, take one day at a time there are people far worse off than me
Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: Ms Saucy on October 16, 2016, 05:46:32 PM
Hi there.
Sometimes kindness goes such a long way. I have a do, dump, delegate motto at home. I live with my awesome teenagers x2....my third awesome son became and angel in 2014 suddenly.
Recovery is so important for you, a shock re diagnosis and then surgery.
Always here with hugs, cuddles and support xx
Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: CLKD on October 16, 2016, 08:55:50 PM
Shell - let us know how you get on!  Any experience can be helpful to others!
Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: Autumnlady on October 16, 2016, 09:18:33 PM
I am sending you my best wishes Shell and hope that you get help to find something to make you feel better soon so you can enjoy life more. Sorry I can't advise as I don't know anything abut HRT or the subject you need help on  :bang: :bighug:
Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: Autumnlady on October 16, 2016, 09:21:02 PM
Sorry Shell - the head banging smiley shouldn't be there! I must have caught it before clicking on the hugs one!
Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: shell05 on October 17, 2016, 03:35:02 PM
So sorry to hear about your son. Heartbreaking.

I will keep all upto date with things. I'm waiting for my next genetics appointment. I saw my gynecologist Friday and we talked about hrt. He said its upto me if I want to take it, as I explained my quality of life is suffering, but he can't guarantee it wouldn't aggravate anything. Didn't tell me anything I hadn't already heard.

I think I'll just plod on without it I just have a feeling it's not for me.
Seriously achy bones today, having arthritis already everything is a huge effort.
Don't you just get sick of being sick about it??!!


Title: Re: Hiya. Somebody shoot me!!!!
Post by: shell05 on October 17, 2016, 04:17:03 PM
Thank you autumnlady. Don't worry about  the head banging that's exactly how I feel most days!