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General Discussion => This 'n' That => Topic started by: Joyce on July 26, 2016, 12:05:07 PM

Title: Angry world
Post by: Joyce on July 26, 2016, 12:05:07 PM
How many more are going to die? So sad to hear of events in Japan & France, again.

It's now becoming an almost daily event.
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: Taz2 on July 26, 2016, 12:13:49 PM
I agree CG - the trouble is that for lots of the world it has been an almost daily event for years but it hasn't affected us and goes largely unreported - just a brief "25 people were killed today in a market place by a suicide bomb...." sandwiched between other news items.

Taz x
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: Joyce on July 26, 2016, 02:13:30 PM
Very true Taz. Terribly sad nonetheless. 😢
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: Taz2 on July 26, 2016, 02:24:02 PM
It just makes me feel so helpless.

Taz x  :'(
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: Joyce on July 26, 2016, 03:38:38 PM
We went to see what was on at our local cinema. It had been evacuated. Our thoughts immediately went into overdrive. Turns out they had a leak after torrential rain. Terrible that we were thinking the worst, but with everything that's been happening of late, can you blame us?
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: Pennyfarthing on July 26, 2016, 03:46:48 PM
I think I'm right in saying that all the atrocities in recent weeks and months have been carried out in the name of ISIS apart from the horrific incident in Japan.


It is complete and utter madness for countries to be allowing people in who they know nothing about. Many of us warned months ago that this would happen but we were labelled racists.  To my mind any country should only be allowing people in who can support themselves, work in a skill area that the country needs and whose background can be verified.

ITs just too risky to do otherwise.
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: babyjane on July 26, 2016, 06:32:09 PM
stable doors and bolting horses come to mind as these people are probably already in the countries now  :(
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: Pennyfarthing on July 26, 2016, 07:11:28 PM
stable doors and bolting horses come to mind as these people are probably already in the countries now  :(

OF course it's too late.  They're all over Europe and we can't say they didn't warn us!  They warned last summer that they would infiltrate Europe posing as migrants. Anybody who believed this wasn't true is a fool.   

This is from November 2015.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/555434/Islamic-State-ISIS-Smuggler-THOUSANDS-Extremists-into-Europe-Refugees
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: CLKD on July 26, 2016, 09:31:57 PM
However: if the Media stopped giving these people the 5 mins. of 'fame' and have a media black-out; don't say who might be responsible……… why does the public need to know who or why?  What I want to know is that the Government of the day is keeping me as safe as possible and I don't believe that Armed Police are going to help much.  By the time they get to react it's all over  :-\.

Every time a plane goes over and we get a lot in the Midlands, I worry in case it breaks up above our village; it's Bcome a bit of an obsession in recent weeks  :-[


Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: Joyce on July 26, 2016, 09:45:10 PM
Likewise in Aberdeen CLKD. We also have helicopters due to oil traffic. Scary up there!
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: CLKD on July 26, 2016, 09:47:31 PM
Helis can be unstable at the best of times  ::)
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: Joyce on July 26, 2016, 09:53:37 PM
Tell me about it! Hubby has an app & he checks heights of incoming helicopter flights. Many come in too low. He complained to company involved via airport & was told his info was incorrect. They are so low we can almost wave to those on board. Many beside us have complained, but to no avail. Sorry I digress!
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: CLKD on July 26, 2016, 09:56:32 PM
I would be angry about that, surely the Aviation Authority has a duty to investigate?  Maybe your local newspaper ;-) ……
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: Pennyfarthing on July 27, 2016, 07:57:25 AM
However: if the Media stopped giving these people the 5 mins. of 'fame' and have a media black-out; don't say who might be responsible……… why does the public need to know who or why?  What I want to know is that the Government of the day is keeping me as safe as possible and I don't believe that Armed Police are going to help much.  By the time they get to react it's all over  :-\.

Every time a plane goes over and we get a lot in the Midlands, I worry in case it breaks up above our village; it's Bcome a bit of an obsession in recent weeks  :-[

The public have a right to know and there's no way a media black out would be possible.
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: CLKD on July 27, 2016, 08:17:00 AM
I think you will find out a lot that the Public do not have a 'right' to know …… and by media reporting this is giving any terrorist or un-hinged person air time, therefore fuelling their obsession. 

For example, no one has a 'right' to know my medical history unless I want them to know the ins and outs!
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: Pennyfarthing on July 27, 2016, 10:13:21 AM
I think you will find out a lot that the Public do not have a 'right' to know …… and by media reporting this is giving any terrorist or un-hinged person air time, therefore fuelling their obsession. 

For example, no one has a 'right' to know my medical history unless I want them to know the ins and outs!

YOur medical history is entirely different CLKD as that's personal and also protected data.

Any event that happens in the world whether it's a crime, an atrocity, a royal wedding, a medical breakthrough, a space shuttle event etc is newsworthy and of interest or concern to the public. The media just can't pick and choose what they will report on and what they will keep quiet about .... Unless of course there's an ongoing court case.
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: CLKD on July 27, 2016, 12:37:06 PM
 :-X …………. there's an awful lot that isn't in the Public Domain and that includes many Security issues.  That comes over obviously when the public are told that this terrorist or that victim was already 'known'  :bang: well tell the rest of us so that we can deal with them? but that's probably why the public aren't told, to stop vigilantee possibilities.

Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: CLKD on July 27, 2016, 02:18:09 PM
'deluded' - good choice of word!

But historically, this delusion has been passed down the ages  :sigh:
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: Pennyfarthing on July 27, 2016, 03:22:57 PM
BReaking news

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3710994/Explosion-near-migration-office-Nuremberg-Germany-alert-ISIS-fears.html
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: Joyce on July 27, 2016, 04:00:33 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: CLKD on July 27, 2016, 04:07:14 PM
I have scanned the BBC news etc. and find nothing about this …………
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: Joyce on July 27, 2016, 04:09:28 PM
On Sky CLKD.
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: CLKD on July 27, 2016, 04:31:43 PM
AAAHhh - thanks.  Don't have that ……… this will end eventually but history does keep repeating itself!
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: Joyce on July 27, 2016, 05:24:58 PM
Would appear today's explosion was an aerosol can exploding in a case which went on fire?!
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: CLKD on July 27, 2016, 06:22:18 PM
Causes problems however large or destructive  :sigh:
Title: Re: Angry world
Post by: Taz2 on July 27, 2016, 07:54:18 PM
.. and in Syria forty four more people lose their lives this afternoon...  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-36902604

Taz x